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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 25, 2024 14:35:33 GMT -5
I can't vote for Martin. He was one of those players/managers I really disliked. Also thought he was a bit overrated as a manager. No doubt he turned teams around quickly but his need for the limelight and the way he manufactured controversy gave him a short shelf life in many of the jobs he held. To each their own. But based on Martin's career, his career is right up there with some that are already in the Hall of Fame. You could be right Max but he's one guy I can't put aside my dislike for. |
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Post by Max on Oct 25, 2024 14:44:35 GMT -5
Tough topic for me to list Yankee players that fell short of the Hall of Fame, because I think many of their career stats didn't fall short of the Hall of Fame. Allie Reynolds is another one of those players that I think should be in the Hall of Fame. Interesting player. He had a career WAR of 25.4. He had a career record of 182-107 but is also remembered for being a good closer and ended his career with 48 saves. His ERA 3.30 and WHIP 1.39 were a tad high, particularly WHIP. Big game pitcher. .630 winning % in the regular season.
7-2 (.778 winning %) with a 2.79 ERA, 2 shutouts, and 4 saves in the world series.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 25, 2024 14:50:12 GMT -5
I don't recall seeing Moose Skowron play alot but he is highly regarded in Yankee lore. 27.1 career WAR, 1566 hits and a .282 ba and .792 OPS. Don't know what kind of defensive player he was but those are pretty good offensive numbers.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 25, 2024 14:55:27 GMT -5
Elston Howard won an MVP and a World Series and deserves to have a spot !  |
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Post by Max on Oct 25, 2024 14:56:41 GMT -5
To each their own. But based on Martin's career, his career is right up there with some that are already in the Hall of Fame. You could be right Max but he's one guy I can't put aside my dislike for. I understand. By the way, great topic. |
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Post by Lola on Oct 25, 2024 16:40:43 GMT -5
My fandom doesn't go back too far, so what about nominating Bern Baby Bern, Bernie Williams! 4 time Champion. 5 time All Star. 4 time Gold Glove. ALCS MVP. Batting Title. Career WAR of 49.6. Career Slash rate of .297/.381/.477 with an OPS+ of 125. Bernie one of the most underrated players… Evah! |
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Post by Renfield on Oct 25, 2024 18:28:06 GMT -5
1955--you picked the first 3 would have picked: White, Stottlemyre and Randolph.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Oct 25, 2024 18:48:19 GMT -5
I agree with Allie Reynolds, Mel Stottlemyre pitching selections. I would add to the list pitchers Sparky Lyle, Bobby Shantz and Fritz Peterson to the pitching list. As far as regular players, Bill Skowron, Clete Boyer, Roger Maris and of course Thurman Munson.
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2024 23:32:51 GMT -5
I don't recall seeing Moose Skowron play alot but he is highly regarded in Yankee lore. 27.1 career WAR, 1566 hits and a .282 ba and .792 OPS. Don't know what kind of defensive player he was but those are pretty good offensive numbers. In that era, yes… |
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Post by Max on Oct 26, 2024 12:33:18 GMT -5
I agree with Allie Reynolds, Mel Stottlemyre pitching selections. I would add to the list pitchers Sparky Lyle, Bobby Shantz and Fritz Peterson to the pitching list. As far as regular players, Bill Skowron, Clete Boyer, Roger Maris and of course Thurman Munson. Would have loved to see Mel's and Fritz's won loss records had they had a chance to pitch for better Yankee teams. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 26, 2024 12:42:35 GMT -5
I agree with Allie Reynolds, Mel Stottlemyre pitching selections. I would add to the list pitchers Sparky Lyle, Bobby Shantz and Fritz Peterson to the pitching list. As far as regular players, Bill Skowron, Clete Boyer, Roger Maris and of course Thurman Munson. Would have loved to see Mel's and Fritz's won loss records had they had a chance to pitch for better Yankee teams. Yep, Peterson's numbers are pretty interesting. A career record of 133 - 131 but he had a respectable ERA of 3.30 and WHIP of 1.19. He had one 20 win season. Those numbers would get him a contract of $15MM per or more in todays game. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Oct 28, 2024 12:36:04 GMT -5
 1960 Topps Baseball CardYankees All-Star 1B Bill Skowron played against former Yankee minor league teammate Vic Power (A's and Indians), who would dominate the AL 1B Golden Glove Awards. In 1958, Bill did lead the AL 1B in fielding.
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Post by Max on Oct 30, 2024 14:25:53 GMT -5
Not sure if he was mentioned in this thread... But as I just mentioned in another thread, Hideki Matsui might have been in the Hall of Fame by now if he played for the Yankees sooner.
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