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Post by kaybli on Aug 24, 2023 22:39:54 GMT -5
I haven't read that many Yankee books, but "From Chumps to Champs" by Bill Pennington was good one, detailing how the late 90's Yankee dynasty was built. That sounds interesting, I'll check it out! Thanks Chi! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2023 8:58:05 GMT -5
An entire bookshelf on the Yankees huh? Cool stuff! Any recommendations for reading? The last Yankee book I read was "The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty" by Buster Olney. I'd love to read something about the 50's/60's teams. I'll plug my all-time favorite: "Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig." Phenomenal read. For 50's & 60's I read "Maris and Mantle" by Tony Castro last year and really enjoyed it. Absolutely agree on "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig. Probably my favorite Yankee-related book and one of my favorite baseball books ever. It's beautifully written and captures the essence of Lou Gehrig's life better than anything else I've ever read. Robert Creamer did a good biography with "Babe: The Legend Comes To Life." He also did a good bio on Casey Stengel. I haven't read Tony Castro's book on Maris and Mantle. I did read his biography of Mantle; I thought it was okay, but I still haven't found any Mantle bio that blew me away. I did not like Jane Leavy's acclaimed book on him "The Last Boy." She injects herself into the book way too much for my taste and over-emphasizes the negatives to write her own ill-informed prejudicial sociological treatise on life in the 50s and 60s. Of course I hated her book on Koufax too, for many of the same reasons, so maybe I should just stay away. Bill Pennington wrote an excellent book on Billy Martin that changed the way I looked at Billy. Also Bill Madden's "Steinbrenner: The Last Lion of Baseball" was a balanced look at The Boss's reign. A good overview of Yankee history is Marty Appel's "Pinstripe Empire." It's Yankees 101, but a decent survey course. Not specifically just about the Yankees, but David Halberstam's "October 1964" captures that turning point season in Yankee history very well. I'm guessing you already have some of these, but my two cents. There are plenty of other good ones out there. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2023 9:01:32 GMT -5
I haven't read that many Yankee books, but "From Chumps to Champs" by Bill Pennington was good one, detailing how the late 90's Yankee dynasty was built. That sounds interesting, I'll check it out! Thanks Chi! Bill Pennington is a good writer. Definitely worth looking into. |
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Post by kaybli on Aug 25, 2023 9:22:08 GMT -5
I'll plug my all-time favorite: "Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig." Phenomenal read. For 50's & 60's I read "Maris and Mantle" by Tony Castro last year and really enjoyed it. Absolutely agree on "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig. Probably my favorite Yankee-related book and one of my favorite baseball books ever. It's beautifully written and captures the essence of Lou Gehrig's life better than anything else I've ever read. Robert Creamer did a good biography with "Babe: The Legend Comes To Life." He also did a good bio on Casey Stengel. I haven't read Tony Castro's book on Maris and Mantle. I did read his biography of Mantle; I thought it was okay, but I still haven't found any Mantle bio that blew me away. I did not like Jane Leavy's acclaimed book on him "The Last Boy." She injects herself into the book way too much for my taste and over-emphasizes the negatives to write her own ill-informed prejudicial sociological treatise on life in the 50s and 60s. Of course I hated her book on Koufax too, for many of the same reasons, so maybe I should just stay away. Bill Pennington wrote an excellent book on Billy Martin that changed the way I looked at Billy. Also Bill Madden's "Steinbrenner: The Last Lion of Baseball" was a balanced look at The Boss's reign. A good overview of Yankee history is Marty Appel's "Pinstripe Empire." It's Yankees 101, but a decent survey course. Not specifically just about the Yankees, but David Halberstam's "October 1964" captures that turning point season in Yankee history very well. I'm guessing you already have some of these, but my two cents. There are plenty of other good ones out there. Thanks for the recs pipps! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2023 9:31:02 GMT -5
Let me join the welcoming committee, Dave. No shortage of Mattingly fans here. We hope you'll join in the discussions here. Where in NE Ohio are you from? And I don't think we've had anyone living in Nebraska on the forum. Always great to have new territory represented. Born & bred in the Youngstown-Warren area. Lived there until I headed off to college. Nebraska certainly wasn't where I ever saw myself putting down roots, but the Air Force plopped me here and we ended up falling in love with Omaha. It's a really underrated little city. Great people. I'm also a big Buffalo Sabres fan and have met some fellow Yankee fans at a Buffalo sports bar I enjoy. So there's a few of us here! Youngstown -- home to one of my all-time favorites Bernie Kosar! A couple of great boxers, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Earnie Shavers. I went to Penn State, and well after I graduated we had an excellent defensive back from Youngstown named Mike Zordich who later played in the NFL for quite a while. I had a good friend at Penn State who came from Youngstown. One fall non-football Saturday in 1970, a group of us went tromping out to his home for a lost weekend. One of the things we did was go watch the Youngstown State Penguins who had this young phenom quarterback named Ron Jaworski. He threw for something like 500 yards against the Murray State Racers. The Penguins' coach was a guy named Dike Beede, who was the inventor of the penalty flag. You probably know all about him. I've only been to Omaha once, but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice city it is. A few things stood out to me -- the picturesque setting on the Missouri River. The great Art Deco architecture, especially the old train station. And Boys Town blew me away -- what an impressive campus. Easily the equal of any Ivy League campus. I got a chance to tour the SAC base, which I imagine is where you worked. Such a great collection of aircraft, especially the SR-71. I saw many a game at The Aud in Buffalo. I don't suppose you're old enough to remember the RPM line? Danny Gare? Jim Schoenfeld? Jerry Korab? Scotty Bowman on the bench? Of course wings at The Anchor Bar. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2023 9:33:13 GMT -5
Absolutely agree on "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig. Probably my favorite Yankee-related book and one of my favorite baseball books ever. It's beautifully written and captures the essence of Lou Gehrig's life better than anything else I've ever read. Robert Creamer did a good biography with "Babe: The Legend Comes To Life." He also did a good bio on Casey Stengel. I haven't read Tony Castro's book on Maris and Mantle. I did read his biography of Mantle; I thought it was okay, but I still haven't found any Mantle bio that blew me away. I did not like Jane Leavy's acclaimed book on him "The Last Boy." She injects herself into the book way too much for my taste and over-emphasizes the negatives to write her own ill-informed prejudicial sociological treatise on life in the 50s and 60s. Of course I hated her book on Koufax too, for many of the same reasons, so maybe I should just stay away. Bill Pennington wrote an excellent book on Billy Martin that changed the way I looked at Billy. Also Bill Madden's "Steinbrenner: The Last Lion of Baseball" was a balanced look at The Boss's reign. A good overview of Yankee history is Marty Appel's "Pinstripe Empire." It's Yankees 101, but a decent survey course. Not specifically just about the Yankees, but David Halberstam's "October 1964" captures that turning point season in Yankee history very well. I'm guessing you already have some of these, but my two cents. There are plenty of other good ones out there. Thanks for the recs pipps! You are most welcome Kaybli. Definitely the Eig book is wonderful. But they all contribute to your Yankee edumacation. Good to get you through a winter. |
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Post by kaybli on Aug 25, 2023 9:39:12 GMT -5
Born & bred in the Youngstown-Warren area. Lived there until I headed off to college. Nebraska certainly wasn't where I ever saw myself putting down roots, but the Air Force plopped me here and we ended up falling in love with Omaha. It's a really underrated little city. Great people. I'm also a big Buffalo Sabres fan and have met some fellow Yankee fans at a Buffalo sports bar I enjoy. So there's a few of us here! Youngstown -- home to one of my all-time favorites Bernie Kosar! A couple of great boxers, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Earnie Shavers. I went to Penn State, and well after I graduated we had an excellent defensive back from Youngstown named Mike Zordich who later played in the NFL for quite a while. I had a good friend at Penn State who came from Youngstown. One fall non-football Saturday in 1970, a group of us went tromping out to his home for a lost weekend. One of the things we did was go watch the Youngstown State Penguins who had this young phenom quarterback named Ron Jaworski. He threw for something like 500 yards against the Murray State Racers. The Penguins' coach was a guy named Dike Beede, who was the inventor of the penalty flag. You probably know all about him. I've only been to Omaha once, but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice city it is. A few things stood out to me -- the picturesque setting on the Missouri River. The great Art Deco architecture, especially the old train station. And Boys Town blew me away -- what an impressive campus. Easily the equal of any Ivy League campus. I got a chance to tour the SAC base, which I imagine is where you worked. Such a great collection of aircraft, especially the SR-71. I saw many a game at The Aud in Buffalo. I don't suppose you're old enough to remember the RPM line? Danny Gare? Jim Schoenfeld? Jerry Korab? Scotty Bowman on the bench? Of course wings at The Anchor Bar. I didn't know you went to Penn State, pipps. My best friend went there. I visited him often taking route 80. I'm famous for the one time I took 80 West from Penn State instead of 80 East and drove all the way to Cleveland (past Pittsburgh) before realizing my mistake. In the same night I drove all the way back from Cleveland to Hoboken. I guess you could say I was a bit of an absent minded driver.  |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2023 9:45:30 GMT -5
Youngstown -- home to one of my all-time favorites Bernie Kosar! A couple of great boxers, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Earnie Shavers. I went to Penn State, and well after I graduated we had an excellent defensive back from Youngstown named Mike Zordich who later played in the NFL for quite a while. I had a good friend at Penn State who came from Youngstown. One fall non-football Saturday in 1970, a group of us went tromping out to his home for a lost weekend. One of the things we did was go watch the Youngstown State Penguins who had this young phenom quarterback named Ron Jaworski. He threw for something like 500 yards against the Murray State Racers. The Penguins' coach was a guy named Dike Beede, who was the inventor of the penalty flag. You probably know all about him. I've only been to Omaha once, but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice city it is. A few things stood out to me -- the picturesque setting on the Missouri River. The great Art Deco architecture, especially the old train station. And Boys Town blew me away -- what an impressive campus. Easily the equal of any Ivy League campus. I got a chance to tour the SAC base, which I imagine is where you worked. Such a great collection of aircraft, especially the SR-71. I saw many a game at The Aud in Buffalo. I don't suppose you're old enough to remember the RPM line? Danny Gare? Jim Schoenfeld? Jerry Korab? Scotty Bowman on the bench? Of course wings at The Anchor Bar. I didn't know you went to Penn State, pipps. My best friend went there. I visited him often taking route 80. I'm famous for the one time I took 80 West from Penn State instead of 80 East and drove all the way to Cleveland (past Pittsburgh) before realizing my mistake. In the same night I drove all the way back from Cleveland to Hoboken. I guess you could say I was a bit of an absent minded driver. That's too funny. I'm guessing you were an early advocate of GPS in the car. It seems like even then you had irregular sleeping habits if you pulled off a haul like that. |
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Post by kaybli on Aug 25, 2023 9:52:34 GMT -5
I didn't know you went to Penn State, pipps. My best friend went there. I visited him often taking route 80. I'm famous for the one time I took 80 West from Penn State instead of 80 East and drove all the way to Cleveland (past Pittsburgh) before realizing my mistake. In the same night I drove all the way back from Cleveland to Hoboken. I guess you could say I was a bit of an absent minded driver. That's too funny. I'm guessing you were an early advocate of GPS in the car. It seems like even then you had irregular sleeping habits if you pulled off a haul like that. lol, yea that was in the early 2000s before GPS in every car. Made the trip in my old Acura Integra. Definitely had the same irregular sleeping habits. Drove all through the night and then knocked out for like 20 hours when I reached my dorm in Hoboken. |
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Post by inger on Aug 25, 2023 21:12:06 GMT -5
That's too funny. I'm guessing you were an early advocate of GPS in the car. It seems like even then you had irregular sleeping habits if you pulled off a haul like that. lol, yea that was in the early 2000s before GPS in every car. Made the trip in my old Acura Integra. Definitely had the same irregular sleeping habits. Drove all through the night and then knocked out for like 20 hours when I reached my dorm in Hoboken. Did you beat my personal record of 1200 straight through miles in 20.5 hours? … Either way, that was a haul. We once sent a driver out from Eastern MD to Cleveland to pick up a load. He grabbed the wrong trailer (because it already had a load). We were able to get him turned around at a toll booth just before he got to Pittsburgh, unloaded him And sent him back out… |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 25, 2023 21:23:36 GMT -5
Born & bred in the Youngstown-Warren area. Lived there until I headed off to college. Nebraska certainly wasn't where I ever saw myself putting down roots, but the Air Force plopped me here and we ended up falling in love with Omaha. It's a really underrated little city. Great people. I'm also a big Buffalo Sabres fan and have met some fellow Yankee fans at a Buffalo sports bar I enjoy. So there's a few of us here! Youngstown -- home to one of my all-time favorites Bernie Kosar! A couple of great boxers, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Earnie Shavers. I went to Penn State, and well after I graduated we had an excellent defensive back from Youngstown named Mike Zordich who later played in the NFL for quite a while. I had a good friend at Penn State who came from Youngstown. One fall non-football Saturday in 1970, a group of us went tromping out to his home for a lost weekend. One of the things we did was go watch the Youngstown State Penguins who had this young phenom quarterback named Ron Jaworski. He threw for something like 500 yards against the Murray State Racers. The Penguins' coach was a guy named Dike Beede, who was the inventor of the penalty flag. You probably know all about him. I've only been to Omaha once, but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice city it is. A few things stood out to me -- the picturesque setting on the Missouri River. The great Art Deco architecture, especially the old train station. And Boys Town blew me away -- what an impressive campus. Easily the equal of any Ivy League campus. I got a chance to tour the SAC base, which I imagine is where you worked. Such a great collection of aircraft, especially the SR-71. I saw many a game at The Aud in Buffalo. I don't suppose you're old enough to remember the RPM line? Danny Gare? Jim Schoenfeld? Jerry Korab? Scotty Bowman on the bench? Of course wings at The Anchor Bar. Yeah, good old Y'town. I grew up in a small town about 20 miles NW of there, but everything you mention rings a bell. Every boy around there knows their YSU Penguins history and most (i.e. non-Steeler fans) love Bernie. I came of age in the Jim Tressel Championships days, so everyone was YSU-crazy. Indeed I retired out of Offutt. We had family in town last week and actually spent an afternoon at the SAC & Aerospace Museum. There's an SR-71 featured prominently as soon as you enter. My first AF assignment was the Air Force Flight Test Center/Edwards AFB and NASA flew those bad boys back then. It was always a sight to behold when that beauty launched...and LOUD. As for the Sabres, I know the history, but the RPM line & Scotty were before my time. I became a big fan in the Mogilny/LaFontaine days. My pops took me to a few games at the Aud between 91-94. |
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Post by kaybli on Aug 25, 2023 21:37:41 GMT -5
lol, yea that was in the early 2000s before GPS in every car. Made the trip in my old Acura Integra. Definitely had the same irregular sleeping habits. Drove all through the night and then knocked out for like 20 hours when I reached my dorm in Hoboken. Did you beat my personal record of 1200 straight through miles in 20.5 hours? … Either way, that was a haul. We once sent a driver out from Eastern MD to Cleveland to pick up a load. He grabbed the wrong trailer (because it already had a load). We were able to get him turned around at a toll booth just before he got to Pittsburgh, unloaded him And sent him back out… Actually my journey started in Ottawa, Canada to State College, PA, to Cleveland Ohio to Hoboken, NJ thats about 1150 miles. So just short. I'm sure I did it in much less that 20.5 hours though driving like a madman like I did in those days. |
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Post by inger on Aug 25, 2023 21:44:12 GMT -5
Did you beat my personal record of 1200 straight through miles in 20.5 hours? … Either way, that was a haul. We once sent a driver out from Eastern MD to Cleveland to pick up a load. He grabbed the wrong trailer (because it already had a load). We were able to get him turned around at a toll booth just before he got to Pittsburgh, unloaded him And sent him back out… Actually my journey started in Ottawa, Canada to State College, PA, to Cleveland Ohio to Hoboken, NJ thats about 1150 miles. So just short. I'm sure I did it in much less that 20.5 hours though driving like a madman like I did in those days. Pretty impressive. To be clear, I did NOT carry a pee jar (nor wear a DEPENDS), so I did make a few rest room visits when I had to stop for gas. My food was either something stupid like a pack of chocolate doughnuts or a hot dog at the gas stations, which I would eat behind the wheel… average was 58.53 MPH including stops. I probably was 75-80 MPH on the highway (including those brief stops), so not truly maniacal, though parts of the highway were limited to 55 MPH… |
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Post by kaybli on Aug 25, 2023 21:57:48 GMT -5
Actually my journey started in Ottawa, Canada to State College, PA, to Cleveland Ohio to Hoboken, NJ thats about 1150 miles. So just short. I'm sure I did it in much less that 20.5 hours though driving like a madman like I did in those days. Pretty impressive. To be clear, I did NOT carry a pee jar (nor wear a DEPENDS), so I did make a few rest room visits when I had to stop for gas. My food was either something stupid like a pack of chocolate doughnuts or a hot dog at the gas stations, which I would eat behind the wheel… average was 58.53 MPH including stops. I probably was 75-80 MPH on the highway (including those brief stops), so not truly maniacal, though parts of the highway were limited to 55 MPH… lol, thats pretty wild inger. As for me, I only stopped to take a piss at a gas station in Cleveland. Probably averaged 100 mph in the Integra. I miss the ol' gal. Unfortunately I totaled it slippin on some ice into the incoming lane to be hit in the back by an SUV back in 2002:
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Post by inger on Aug 25, 2023 23:19:38 GMT -5
Pretty impressive. To be clear, I did NOT carry a pee jar (nor wear a DEPENDS), so I did make a few rest room visits when I had to stop for gas. My food was either something stupid like a pack of chocolate doughnuts or a hot dog at the gas stations, which I would eat behind the wheel… average was 58.53 MPH including stops. I probably was 75-80 MPH on the highway (including those brief stops), so not truly maniacal, though parts of the highway were limited to 55 MPH… lol, thats pretty wild inger. As for me, I only stopped to take a piss at a gas station in Cleveland. Probably averaged 100 mph in the Integra. I miss the ol' gal. Unfortunately I totaled it slippin on some ice into the incoming lane to be hit in the back by an SUV back in 2002:
A bummer that the Integra met with such an early demise. Were you injured at all? … or anyone else (even though since I don’t know them I won’t care so much)… |
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