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Post by cbpinstripes on Jul 17, 2018 19:05:09 GMT -5
Both were big time busts. A lesson for everyone that big shot prospects very often times do no pan out as intended. I'll always remember Phil Hughes' second career start where he almost threw a no hitter and also injured his hamstring. And I'll remember not wanting to trade him for Johan Santana in 2007 hence this emoji:
Phil may have had a stronger career if he was left as a set up man to be fair. We'll never know, I guess but it would have been interesting to see. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 17, 2018 19:13:04 GMT -5
Both were big time busts. A lesson for everyone that big shot prospects very often times do no pan out as intended. I'll always remember Phil Hughes' second career start where he almost threw a no hitter and also injured his hamstring. And I'll remember not wanting to trade him for Johan Santana in 2007 hence this emoji:
Phil may have had a stronger career if he was left as a set up man to be fair. We'll never know, I guess but it would have been interesting to see. But who in their right minds would have left him as a setup man after all that potential as a starter? And Hughes would never accept that either. He was groomed as a starter. |
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Post by inger on Jul 17, 2018 22:43:46 GMT -5
Phil may have had a stronger career if he was left as a set up man to be fair. We'll never know, I guess but it would have been interesting to see. But who in their right minds would have left him as a setup man after all that potential as a starter? And Hughes would never accept that either. He was groomed as a starter. I can revisionist history fails here. It was what it was, and it is what it is. The same argument could be made that if Johann Santana had been a closer, or if Mickey Mantle had been a first baseman from the outset to protect those fragile legs...The one piece that is accurate is...We'll never know... |
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:07:31 GMT -5
Imagine if Joba could've stayed as set up man and actually carved out a career...
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Post by inger on Jul 17, 2018 23:10:24 GMT -5
Imagine if Joba could've stayed as set up man and actually carved out a career... For the record, I don't think revisionist history ever works... LOL... I think Joba needed to really give a crap about anything but himself and acquire just a bit of self-discipline and he could have been anything he wanted to be. As it turned out, he wanted to be a lazy bum, and he turned out just as he wanted to be... |
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:13:18 GMT -5
I went to Joba's first MLB start and s was in for major disappointment... I knew he'd be on pitch count and shit but expected him to at least be competitive... My fav Joba start was the pitchers duel against Beckett. I thought that was the Joba we'd be getting majority of start a i was foolosh...
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:14:53 GMT -5
Imagine if Joba could've stayed as set up man and actually carved out a career... For the record, I don't think revisionist history ever works... LOL... I think Joba needed to really give a crap about anything but himself and acquire just a bit of self-discipline and he could have been anything he wanted to be. As it turned out, he wanted to be a lazy bum, and he turned out just as he wanted to be... OUCH!!! A little harsh bro . I don't see his career turning to shit bc he didn't give a shit about it... |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 17, 2018 23:14:58 GMT -5
I went to Joba's first MLB start and s was in for major disappointment... I knew he'd be on pitch count and shit but expected him to at least be competitive... My fav Joba start was the pitchers duel against Beckett. I thought that was the Joba we'd be getting majority of start a i was foolosh... You were at Joba's first start? So was I! He only mustered a few innings and the Yankees lost if I remember correctly. |
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:21:53 GMT -5
Yes sir. I was in the mid section of left field Idk how else to describe it
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:22:40 GMT -5
I've never seen a Yankees victory. I'm 0 for 3
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Post by sierchio on Jul 17, 2018 23:23:49 GMT -5
Quick fact. I was the last person able to get a private tour of old Yankee stadium
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