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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2018 8:18:02 GMT -5
By just talent, I'd go with the Dodgers. According to Cot's, the Red Sox opening season payroll was more than 140,000 million than the Brewers. The Red Sox even outspent the free spending Dodgers by 45+ million. Strange, how team payroll is only brought up when it's the Yankees. Yea, of course Boston never buys its championships. Only the Yanks. [img class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/ZVUxStWfuuhWOBrKaeKL.gif" alt="  "] The topic of team payrolls has nearly disappeared in the five years since the Yanks last had the distinction of having the highest. The sports media has a constant, never-changing theme -- the Yankees are greedy and arrogant and simply go out and buy championships, and everybody they play is a scrappy underdog. To be a true sports conformist, the first and by far most important first step is to hate the Yankees. There are some optional secondary animosities you may adopt if you want to burnish your credentials as a down-the-line sports conformist -- hating Duke basketball or Notre Dame football, for example -- in some places it extends to hating the Oakland Raiders or Dallas Cowboys, maybe hating the Boston Celtics, your local groupthink policy may vary -- but hating the Yankees is the one absolute essential element. Having said that, now that the Yanks have done their payroll tax penance year, it won't bother me in the least if their 2019 payroll is more than the Red Sox and Dodgers combined. And that as a direct result, they win the next ten World Series in a row, all of them on controversial umpire calls that go their way. I know, I know, that isn't going to happen. But it wouldn't bother me if it did. |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 21, 2018 8:48:47 GMT -5
Yea, of course Boston never buys its championships. Only the Yanks. [img alt=" " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/ZVUxStWfuuhWOBrKaeKL.gif"] The topic of team payrolls has nearly disappeared in the five years since the Yanks last had the distinction of having the highest. The sports media has a constant, never-changing theme -- the Yankees are greedy and arrogant and simply go out and buy championships, and everybody they play is a scrappy underdog. To be a true sports conformist, the first and by far most important first step is to hate the Yankees. There are some optional secondary animosities you may adopt if you want to burnish your credentials as a down-the-line sports conformist -- hating Duke basketball or Notre Dame football, for example -- in some places it extends to hating the Oakland Raiders or Dallas Cowboys, maybe hating the Boston Celtics, your local groupthink policy may vary -- but hating the Yankees is the one absolute essential element. Having said that, now that the Yanks have done their payroll tax penance year, it won't bother me in the least if their 2019 payroll is more than the Red Sox and Dodgers combined. And that as a direct result, they win the next ten World Series in a row, all of them on controversial umpire calls that go their way. I know, I know, that isn't going to happen. But it wouldn't bother me if it did. With all the revenue the Yanks are pulling in from the YES network and from just being the Yankees, their payroll should always be among the highest in the league. They weren't even in the top 5 this year. Now, I know that has to do with getting under the tax threshold and resetting the bar back to zero, but now that has been accomplished, they need to open up their wallets. Talents like Harper & Machado are available... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2018 9:01:12 GMT -5
With all the revenue the Yanks are pulling in from the YES network and from just being the Yankees, their payroll should always be among the highest in the league. They weren't even in the top 5 this year. Now, I know that has to do with getting under the tax threshold and resetting the bar back to zero, but now that has been accomplished, they need to open up their wallets. Talents like Harper & Machado are available... Completely agree, Chi. They are the New York Freaking Yankees and should never try to relate how they operate to how teams like the San Diego Padres or Minnesota Twins or Pittsburgh Pirates or that other cheapskate New York team operates. They are and should be held to a different standard, both in payroll and results. That has actually been the case since they acquired Babe Ruth on that blessed day of December 26, 1919. The Yankees should hold a big party every year on that day. Honor The Babe by providing free beer and hookers to all Yankee fans 15 and over. |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 21, 2018 10:01:55 GMT -5
Payroll is a trap. On the one hand, when they don’t spend on the actual talent on the field what that means is that the money is going to Hal and Hank, who already have more than they deserve given that they were born into this shut and haven’t done anything personally to earn it. I’d much rather have the players get that money. Or the fans, by dropping prices, but of course that will never happen. So yes, given their revenue stream which comes from us, I’d prefer to see money spent on the team or the experience of attending the games for the fans.
At the same time, spending doesn’t equate with talent or quality. And these are not mistakes easily reversed when teams do get it wrong, as we have experienced. So I’m not all in on having them lead the league in spending. I see that as a path to a bad result.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 21, 2018 10:02:45 GMT -5
Really too bad Milwaukee didn’t make it. But I’m all in on the Dodgers now.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2018 11:21:50 GMT -5
Really too bad Milwaukee didn’t make it. But I’m all in on the Dodgers now. Yeah, we're all Dodgers fans now. It would have been a little easier if Donnie Baseball was still at the helm. But I like Roberts okay, despite his history against the Yanks. LA has loads of talent. And for sure they had their share of major injuries this year. Losing Corey Seager for most of the year was in and of itself a significant hit. It would be like the Red Sox losing Mookie Betts for most of the year. Justin Turner missed a third of the season, Puig was gone for a month, Kershaw spent a total of nearly two months on the DL, likewise Rich Hill, Ryu was out for three months, Urias for five months, etc. To those of us who are Yankees fans, this sounds like business as usual. But they had their fair share. As one of baseball's elite franchises, the Dodgers are way overdue to take it all -- 30 years and counting. Last I saw, the oddsmakers had Boston at -135, which means they don't quite agree the Dodgers are overdue. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 21, 2018 13:12:29 GMT -5
I just cannot root for the Dodgers...it makes me feel...unclean.
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Post by inger on Oct 21, 2018 13:23:10 GMT -5
I just cannot root for the Dodgers...it makes me feel...unclean. Well do it, and then take a shower. If you don't then you're almost rooting for Boston by default, which should make you feel, if not squalid, then contaminated or begrimed, or something extra-nasty...Where you'll have to wash yourself with a combination of baking soda and tomato juice to get the smell and the greasiness off...like you've been skunked... |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 21, 2018 13:28:47 GMT -5
I just cannot root for the Dodgers...it makes me feel...unclean. I hear you, but rooting for the Red Sox in unholy.  |
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Post by inger on Oct 21, 2018 13:41:44 GMT -5
I just cannot root for the Dodgers...it makes me feel...unclean. I hear you, but rooting for the Red Sox in unholy. [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/SnvVzBdfGibfshIjVXcI.gif" alt=" " class="smile"] That might even be worse than getting skunked... |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 21, 2018 15:34:58 GMT -5
I shall have to hope they both lose...
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 21, 2018 15:57:53 GMT -5
Thanks chi for reminding me ellsbury still exists
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 21, 2018 16:10:28 GMT -5
Thanks chi for reminding me ellsbury still exists Can't wait until spring training to see what Ells has left in the tank.  |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 21, 2018 16:27:14 GMT -5
Thanks chi for reminding me ellsbury still exists Can't wait until spring training to see what Ells has left in the tank. [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/VAdMhWQXEJeVXzNqIUrJ.gif" class="smile" alt=" "]  |
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Post by inger on Oct 21, 2018 16:37:57 GMT -5
Thanks chi for reminding me ellsbury still exists Can't wait until spring training to see what Ells has left in the tank. Or if he even still HAS a tank...Or maybe looks like a tank...He’ll come in fat and volunteer to play 1st base... “I’m throwing my hat in the ring”... |
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