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Post by inger on Oct 29, 2018 22:53:06 GMT -5
Hey, I hope you're feeling better! That old plucked turkey got through the surgery like a champ, I’d bet. Yes, Russ. I’ve been thinking about you too. You seem to be starting to post a bit, so I’m hoping that means that you’re up and about, moaning and bitching as usual (we wouldn’t want you any other way)... (: |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 30, 2018 1:00:36 GMT -5
Hey, I hope you're feeling better! Hope you're doing well, noetsi! |
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 7:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2018 8:23:32 GMT -5
I haven't heard but he probably would have been on Jimmy Kimmel if the Dodgers won the series. |
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 11:26:47 GMT -5
I haven't heard but he probably would have been on Jimmy Kimmel if the Dodgers won the series. The guy with the milk had a better postseason than Kershaw did. |
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 14:30:45 GMT -5
So strange how some of the biggest stars tend to flop on the biggest stage...Not just once, but repeatedly...
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 14:31:26 GMT -5
BTW: That wasn’t aimed at Jimmy Kimmel... (:
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2018 14:46:51 GMT -5
So strange how some of the biggest stars tend to flop on the biggest stage...Not just once, but repeatedly... After this post season, even David Price can laugh at Kershaw. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 2, 2018 16:02:29 GMT -5
So strange how some of the biggest stars tend to flop on the biggest stage...Not just once, but repeatedly... After this post season, even David Price can laugh at Kershaw. Kershaw's post-season problems are one of baseball's great mysteries. He is by almost any measure among the greatest pitchers in the history of the game -- his career ERA+ of 159 is the best of any starting pitcher EVER -- and second only to Mariano Rivera's insane numbers. Second best among starters all time is Pedro Martinez at 154. Going down the list of starting pitchers who pitched from the 20th century onward you come to Lefty Grove at 148 and Walter Johnson at 147. Relative to his time, Kershaw easily outpitches these semi-mythical legends. Among more recent starters -- Roger Clemens was at 143, Corey Kluber at 137, Randy Johnson at 135, Greg Maddux at 132. Sandy Koufax, to whom Kershaw is most often compared (with some justification IMO) only comes in at 131. These are the absolute elite pitchers to ever pitch, and Kershaw has outpaced them. But his post-season record is abysmal. In 30 games -- pretty much what you would consider one full season for a starter -- he is 9-10 with a 4.32 ERA. Other than his rookie season at age 20 when he went 5-5 with an ERA of 4.26, the worst ERA he has ever had in his eleven seasons is 2.91. That's his WORST, and it's still nearly a run and a half a game better than his post-season ERA. I know you face tougher competition in the post-season, but that is still really bad. Greg Maddux is often dinged as a guy who was great in the regular season but bad in the post-season. But even his numbers aren't nearly as skewed as Kershaw's. In 35 games he was 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA. That compares to his career ERA of 3.16. In other words, not really much worse. Kershaw doesn't come across as being a headcase. But the enormous disparity between his relatively large sample size post-season record and his regular season achievements is difficult to dismiss. |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 2, 2018 19:09:30 GMT -5
After this post season, even David Price can laugh at Kershaw. Kershaw's post-season problems are one of baseball's great mysteries. He is by almost any measure among the greatest National League pitchers in the history of the game -- his career ERA+ of 159 is the best of any starting pitcher EVER -- and second only to Mariano Rivera's insane numbers. Second best among starters all time is Pedro Martinez at 154. Going down the list of starting pitchers who pitched from the 20th century onward you come to Lefty Grove at 148 and Walter Johnson at 147. Relative to his time, Kershaw easily outpitches these semi-mythical legends. Among more recent starters -- Roger Clemens was at 143, Corey Kluber at 137, Randy Johnson at 135, Greg Maddux at 132. Sandy Koufax, to whom Kershaw is most often compared (with some justification IMO) only comes in at 131. These are the absolute elite pitchers to ever pitch, and Kershaw has outpaced them. But his post-season record is abysmal. In 30 games -- pretty much what you would consider one full season for a starter -- he is 9-10 with a 4.32 ERA. Other than his rookie season at age 20 when he went 5-5 with an ERA of 4.26, the worst ERA he has ever had in his eleven seasons is 2.91. That's his WORST, and it's still nearly a run and a half a game better than his post-season ERA. I know you face tougher competition in the post-season, but that is still really bad. Greg Maddux is often dinged as a guy who was great in the regular season but bad in the post-season. But even his numbers aren't nearly as skewed as Kershaw's. In 35 games he was 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA. That compares to his career ERA of 3.16. In other words, not really much worse. Kershaw doesn't come across as being a headcase. But the enormous disparity between his relatively large sample size post-season record and his regular season achievements is difficult to dismiss. I added two words.... |
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 19:27:19 GMT -5
After this post season, even David Price can laugh at Kershaw. Kershaw's post-season problems are one of baseball's great mysteries. He is by almost any measure among the greatest pitchers in the history of the game -- his career ERA+ of 159 is the best of any starting pitcher EVER -- and second only to Mariano Rivera's insane numbers. Second best among starters all time is Pedro Martinez at 154. Going down the list of starting pitchers who pitched from the 20th century onward you come to Lefty Grove at 148 and Walter Johnson at 147. Relative to his time, Kershaw easily outpitches these semi-mythical legends. Among more recent starters -- Roger Clemens was at 143, Corey Kluber at 137, Randy Johnson at 135, Greg Maddux at 132. Sandy Koufax, to whom Kershaw is most often compared (with some justification IMO) only comes in at 131. These are the absolute elite pitchers to ever pitch, and Kershaw has outpaced them. But his post-season record is abysmal. In 30 games -- pretty much what you would consider one full season for a starter -- he is 9-10 with a 4.32 ERA. Other than his rookie season at age 20 when he went 5-5 with an ERA of 4.26, the worst ERA he has ever had in his eleven seasons is 2.91. That's his WORST, and it's still nearly a run and a half a game better than his post-season ERA. I know you face tougher competition in the post-season, but that is still really bad. Greg Maddux is often dinged as a guy who was great in the regular season but bad in the post-season. But even his numbers aren't nearly as skewed as Kershaw's. In 35 games he was 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA. That compares to his career ERA of 3.16. In other words, not really much worse. Kershaw doesn't come across as being a headcase. But the enormous disparity between his relatively large sample size post-season record and his regular season achievements is difficult to dismiss. The difference with Kershaw is that he didn’t take a long time to put his career together like Koufax or Randy Johnson, and to date he hasn’t yet extended it beyond his effective years like Maddic |
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 19:30:06 GMT -5
Sorry, like Maddux or Clemens...So many career numbers are skeeed that the best means of comparison to use thevpeak years only, but even then you must find a way to value the number of seasons of peak years to make a true comparison...Tain’t easy...
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2018 7:18:52 GMT -5
Kershaw's post-season problems are one of baseball's great mysteries. He is by almost any measure among the greatest National League pitchers in the history of the game -- his career ERA+ of 159 is the best of any starting pitcher EVER -- and second only to Mariano Rivera's insane numbers. Second best among starters all time is Pedro Martinez at 154. Going down the list of starting pitchers who pitched from the 20th century onward you come to Lefty Grove at 148 and Walter Johnson at 147. Relative to his time, Kershaw easily outpitches these semi-mythical legends. Among more recent starters -- Roger Clemens was at 143, Corey Kluber at 137, Randy Johnson at 135, Greg Maddux at 132. Sandy Koufax, to whom Kershaw is most often compared (with some justification IMO) only comes in at 131. These are the absolute elite pitchers to ever pitch, and Kershaw has outpaced them. But his post-season record is abysmal. In 30 games -- pretty much what you would consider one full season for a starter -- he is 9-10 with a 4.32 ERA. Other than his rookie season at age 20 when he went 5-5 with an ERA of 4.26, the worst ERA he has ever had in his eleven seasons is 2.91. That's his WORST, and it's still nearly a run and a half a game better than his post-season ERA. I know you face tougher competition in the post-season, but that is still really bad. Greg Maddux is often dinged as a guy who was great in the regular season but bad in the post-season. But even his numbers aren't nearly as skewed as Kershaw's. In 35 games he was 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA. That compares to his career ERA of 3.16. In other words, not really much worse. Kershaw doesn't come across as being a headcase. But the enormous disparity between his relatively large sample size post-season record and his regular season achievements is difficult to dismiss. I added two words.... True, Rizz. But most of his post-season bad games have been against other National League teams, the same teams he is dominating during the regular season. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2018 7:25:09 GMT -5
Sorry, like Maddux or Clemens...So many career numbers are skeeed that the best means of comparison to use thevpeak years only, but even then you must find a way to value the number of seasons of peak years to make a true comparison...Tain’t easy... Inger, I almost put in a caveat about his decline phase not being factored in yet -- it pays to be lawyerly -- but even assuming a drop-off, unless he plays a whole lot of seasons past his peak, he is still going to wind up somewhere in Roger Clemens territory when it comes to the ERA+ stat. Just this morning I read an article which stated that the gap between Kershaw's regular season and post-season ERA is second all-time among pitchers with at least 50 post-season innings pitched. And the "winner" is ----- Tim Wakefield. |
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Post by inger on Nov 3, 2018 9:48:52 GMT -5
Sorry, like Maddux or Clemens...So many career numbers are skeeed that the best means of comparison to use thevpeak years only, but even then you must find a way to value the number of seasons of peak years to make a true comparison...Tain’t easy... Inger, I almost put in a caveat about his decline phase not being factored in yet -- it pays to be lawyerly -- but even assuming a drop-off, unless he plays a whole lot of seasons past his peak, he is still going to wind up somewhere in Roger Clemens territory when it comes to the ERA+ stat. Just this morning I read an article which stated that the gap between Kershaw's regular season and post-season ERA is second all-time among pitchers with at least 50 post-season innings pitched. And the "winner" is ----- Tim Wakefield. I my mind there are some great knuckleballers...Wilhelm, Wood, etc...And then there's Tim Wakefield... |
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