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Post by greatfatness on Oct 9, 2018 9:22:38 GMT -5
I was in another room from the TV when Romine came in to pitch...At least he got to get into a post season game, I suppose...Hopefully they can put this horseshit behind them and realize that a loss is a loss and they can still win tomorrow and force this thing to a game 5...You gotta win one at a time... Anyone see on the post game something about Severino only warming up 8 minutes before the game started? They mentioned it before the game started and I was incredulous. Totally unacceptable that Severino could screw up but also that Boone and Rothschild allowed it to happen. |
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Post by maizeyanks on Oct 9, 2018 10:30:10 GMT -5
What a clusterfuck of a game to attend in person.
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Post by domeplease on Oct 9, 2018 11:51:39 GMT -5
--As WE watched the Yankees Game, Tequila Finally said, "Is this Cartoon Channel?"
--Boston 15 hits...US =5 hits as WE Swung AWAY for HR's.
--But this says it all: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/even-in-15-run-game-decisions-of-first-year-managers-aaron-boone-and-alex-cora-loom-large/ar-BBO8EnT One hundred fifty or so feet away, the other man in charge was having a different sort of night. Aaron Boone, also in his first year as skipper, seemed to push all the wrong buttons on Monday. He could tell from the first inning that Severino lacked his best command, but no one began throwing in the Yankees bullpen until the first two men reached in the top of the fourth inning, with New York already down 3–0.
Severino walked the No. 9 hitter on four pitches. The Yankees employ four devastating, fireballing relievers, plus one of the best closers in the game, but when Boone finally made a move...
it was to summon starter Lance Lynn. With the bases loaded and no one out, Lynn walked his first hitter on four pitches, then allowed a bases-clearing double to his second. The Yankees went through three pitchers as the Red Sox batted around; Holt got halfway to the cycle in that inning alone.
The real difference was evident not just in the results but in the way the managers discussed them.
Cora spent last year as the Astros’ bench coach. Boone worked as a color commentator for ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball. Boone explained that he had stayed away from his relief aces because he wanted to save them for later innings, and that he eventually conceded the game—catcher Austin Romine pitched the ninth—in favor of keeping everyone fresh for Tuesday night...READ MORE.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 9, 2018 11:59:18 GMT -5
What a clusterfuck of a game to attend in person. Damn, I'm sorry you had to witness that, maize. Must have been a real bummer. Hopefully, I'll have better luck than you today. |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 11, 2018 11:51:20 GMT -5
If this is true, Yankee coaching need to solve this. Perhaps they should hire Pedro?
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Post by kaybli on Oct 11, 2018 12:03:39 GMT -5
If this is true, Yankee coaching need to solve this. Perhaps they should hire Pedro? Really upsetting. I heard about Severino pitch tipping months ago and they had all this time but they still couldn't fix things? |
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Post by inger on Oct 11, 2018 12:24:44 GMT -5
If this is true, Yankee coaching need to solve this. Perhaps they should hire Pedro? Maybe Pedro, who helped Severino develop his pitches also helped the Red Sox be able to read what was coming. I didn’t enjoy Pedro’s broadcasts by the way. He tended to be repitive and dominated the panel more than I thought was appropriate. After a while all I could think was “Shut up, Pedro”. Say what you have to say, then end it!!! |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 11, 2018 12:45:16 GMT -5
If this is true, Yankee coaching need to solve this. Perhaps they should hire Pedro? So frustrating. Honestly I don’t put this on the coaches. I’m sure they’ve been talking to him about this. It is on the player. Some pitchers are great about this and some aren’t. He needs to spend time with guys like Robertson who hide the ball so well. |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 11, 2018 12:45:48 GMT -5
If this is true, Yankee coaching need to solve this. Perhaps they should hire Pedro? Really upsetting. I heard about Severino pitch tipping months ago and they had all this time but they still couldn't fix things? I’d bring in Cone before Petey |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 11, 2018 13:07:12 GMT -5
Many of us have guessed that his struggles were due in large part to telegraphing his pitches. Time to rework his routine.
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Post by inger on Oct 11, 2018 13:45:36 GMT -5
The big key is that they’re able to lay off that slider when they know it’s coming...that leaves him as at most a two pitch pitcher with the FB and CU...And since JBJ is said to have mouthed FB during someone else’s at bat...they seem to know when that’s coming, too...
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 13, 2018 11:57:55 GMT -5
The big key is that they’re able to lay off that slider when they know it’s coming...that leaves him as at most a two pitch pitcher with the FB and CU...And since JBJ is said to have mouthed FB during someone else’s at bat...they seem to know when that’s coming, too... In this at-bat to Holt, Severino throws four fastballs and one changeup. The pre-pitch routines for three of the four fastballs are shown in full on the broadcast. (On the one that is not shown, the camera is settled on Bradley predicting the pitch in the dugout, as seen above.) On all three fastballs for which we can watch the entire pre-pitch setup, Severino checks the runner on second, then he looks off toward third base as if resting for a moment, then turns his head the rest of the way toward the batter and fires home. That hesitation before turning fully toward home is his tell. Here are the three fastballs in Holt’s at-bat. Notice how Severino always looks to third base. (There is no runner on third base in this situation, but because his body is facing third from the stretch, it is a natural resting point.) When he throws his changeup, the lone offspeed pitch in the at-bat, he checks the runner at second then whips his head all the way around to home plate in one motion and throws. He never pauses to look toward third. And just for good measure, here is every slider Severino threw with the lead runner on second in both of his 2018 playoff starts. He never once stops to look toward third, instead turning his head from second to home all at once. |
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Post by inger on Oct 13, 2018 12:11:47 GMT -5
The big key is that they’re able to lay off that slider when they know it’s coming...that leaves him as at most a two pitch pitcher with the FB and CU...And since JBJ is said to have mouthed FB during someone else’s at bat...they seem to know when that’s coming, too... In this at-bat to Holt, Severino throws four fastballs and one changeup. The pre-pitch routines for three of the four fastballs are shown in full on the broadcast. (On the one that is not shown, the camera is settled on Bradley predicting the pitch in the dugout, as seen above.) On all three fastballs for which we can watch the entire pre-pitch setup, Severino checks the runner on second, then he looks off toward third base as if resting for a moment, then turns his head the rest of the way toward the batter and fires home. That hesitation before turning fully toward home is his tell. Here are the three fastballs in Holt’s at-bat. Notice how Severino always looks to third base. (There is no runner on third base in this situation, but because his body is facing third from the stretch, it is a natural resting point.) When he throws his changeup, the lone offspeed pitch in the at-bat, he checks the runner at second then whips his head all the way around to home plate in one motion and throws. He never pauses to look toward third. And just for good measure, here is every slider Severino threw with the lead runner on second in both of his 2018 playoff starts. He never once stops to look toward third, instead turning his head from second to home all at once. Pretty simple tell. If that's what it is it can be fixed easily. Odd how we get in these little habits... |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 13, 2018 15:54:03 GMT -5
The big key is that they’re able to lay off that slider when they know it’s coming...that leaves him as at most a two pitch pitcher with the FB and CU...And since JBJ is said to have mouthed FB during someone else’s at bat...they seem to know when that’s coming, too... In this at-bat to Holt, Severino throws four fastballs and one changeup. The pre-pitch routines for three of the four fastballs are shown in full on the broadcast. (On the one that is not shown, the camera is settled on Bradley predicting the pitch in the dugout, as seen above.) On all three fastballs for which we can watch the entire pre-pitch setup, Severino checks the runner on second, then he looks off toward third base as if resting for a moment, then turns his head the rest of the way toward the batter and fires home. That hesitation before turning fully toward home is his tell. Here are the three fastballs in Holt’s at-bat. Notice how Severino always looks to third base. (There is no runner on third base in this situation, but because his body is facing third from the stretch, it is a natural resting point.) When he throws his changeup, the lone offspeed pitch in the at-bat, he checks the runner at second then whips his head all the way around to home plate in one motion and throws. He never pauses to look toward third. And just for good measure, here is every slider Severino threw with the lead runner on second in both of his 2018 playoff starts. He never once stops to look toward third, instead turning his head from second to home all at once. The coaches couldn't spot this and tell him to fix it midgame?  |
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Post by inger on Oct 13, 2018 16:45:55 GMT -5
Even worse than that Kaybli. They’ve been looking at film for months trying to find this tell...Apparently someone else has now made the discovery for them...
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