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Post by kaybli on Oct 31, 2018 17:28:37 GMT -5
Brett Gardner staying with Yankees on new deal
Brett Gardner is staying with the New York Yankees at a lower salary.
The 35-year-old outfielder agreed Wednesday to a one-year contract after New York declined his $12.5 million option for 2019. Sources confirmed to ESPN that the new deal is worth $7.5 million.
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Gardner, New York's longest-tenured player, gets a $2 million buyout triggered by the team's decision to decline the option, meaning he will receive $9.5 million total -- a $3 million savings for the team under the option price.
Gardnerism lives!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 18:12:48 GMT -5
Still a pretty good pay day for number 11. I'm happy stuff got worked out. Hopefully that spells the end of Ellsbury unless Frazier gets traded.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 31, 2018 18:22:14 GMT -5
Brett Gardner staying with Yankees on new deal
Brett Gardner is staying with the New York Yankees at a lower salary.
The 35-year-old outfielder agreed Wednesday to a one-year contract after New York declined his $12.5 million option for 2019. Sources confirmed to ESPN that the new deal is worth $7.5 million.
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Gardner, New York's longest-tenured player, gets a $2 million buyout triggered by the team's decision to decline the option, meaning he will receive $9.5 million total -- a $3 million savings for the team under the option price.
Gardnerism lives!
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2018 18:25:14 GMT -5
A good move for the team and for the player. Good news for us, as well. I also believe that the move indicates that Gardner is modestly aware that his value has dropped, which also means that he’ll be accepting of a potentially reduced role on the team if the situation calls for it...
So few players age gracefully that we tend to be stunned when one does...
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 31, 2018 19:54:53 GMT -5
I can't disagree with any of the above comments. One more year should just about do it for Brett, but he will exit with the dignity and grace he deserves. This guy should be on the Yankee payroll in some capacity until he chooses to exit. Bouquets all around.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 31, 2018 19:57:44 GMT -5
Now go get Harper pushing Brett to 4th outfielder status.  |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 31, 2018 20:02:40 GMT -5
Now go get Harper pushing Brett to 4th outfielder status. Oh yeah. I love Gardner, but I don't want him being an everyday player next year. |
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2018 20:17:55 GMT -5
Perhaps we judge Gardner too quickly, and a bit too harshly. Have we never heard of a nova? I can give some examples of players who, appearing to be finished at a ripe age were able to summon the strength for that one more fine elusive season...
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2018 20:28:09 GMT -5
Here's Gardner's slash line after the All Star Break: .209/.288/.316. 9.5 million is a lot of money for a 35 year old coming off such a poor season. Hopefully he can rebound in 2019.
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2018 20:55:21 GMT -5
Here's Gardner's slash line after the All Star Break: .209/.288/.316. 9.5 million is a lot of money for a 35 year old coming off such a poor season. Hopefully he can rebound in 2019. Here are some random examples of players that appeared cooked, but came back to perform much better than it appeared they would ever perform again...(I purposely chose players older than Gardner by several seasons) Paul Molitor / Age 38, hit .270. Ages 39 and 40 he hit .341 and .305 with a total of 202 RBI Rickey Henderson / Age 39 hit .236. Age forty hit .315 Ted Williams / Age 40 hit .254 with 18 HR. Age 41 hit .316 with 29 HR Derek Jeter / Age 36, hit .270. Ages 37 and 38 hit .297 and .316 with 216 hits at age 38 Willie Stargell had been sliding slowly for 5 seasons when at 38 he reawakened and hit .295/28/97 and followed that up with an age 39 season of .281/32/82 and a share of the NL MVP Stan Musial had slipped to .255 and .288 at ages 39 and 40, but rebounded to .330 at age 41 Ichiro Suzuki / Age 41, hit .229. Age 42 hit .291 Lou Brock / Age 39 hit .221. Age 40 hit .304 Special mention to Hank Greenberg for returning from three years of military service to hit 13 HR in less than a half season at 34 and to follow that up with a 44 HR season (his next to last) at 35 |
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2018 22:07:13 GMT -5
Here's Gardner's slash line after the All Star Break: .209/.288/.316. 9.5 million is a lot of money for a 35 year old coming off such a poor season. Hopefully he can rebound in 2019. Quoting this again because it gave me yet another thought. Whatever else you've done this evening, you've made my brain a bit tired, Chi. If I get a good night's sleep I'll thank you tomorrow... Brett Gardner has sort of become the poster boy for having poor second halves of seasons, and in 2018 perhaps even more so. We saw Aaron Boone using the team's analytics as the reason (excuse?) for randomly resting players to keep them fresh for the second half of the season, or more explicitly for the playoff drive. Defining the "first half" as up to the All Star game and the second half of course as after, here are the first and second half slashes for most* of the Yankees that played over 100 games. First Half Second Half
Gardner .254/.345/.403 .209/.288/.316
Hicks .249/.348/.491 .246/.388/.436
Andujar .279/.316/.489 .319/.345/.575
Didi .299/.372/.572 .233/.292/.408
Torres .294/.350/.555 .249/.329/.404
* I didn't include Stanton, because he wound up playing in 158 games, so he wasn't really routinely rested. I left out Walker because he wasn't seemingly on the "rest schedule" at that point because he had a couple of oddly timed hot streaks that didn't last long. I left Judge off the list because he only played in 19 games in the defined second half.
To add a bit of fuel to the fire, while Boone was playing nursemaid and resting players, the team still accumulated a 54-27 record in the first 81 games and the supposedly tanned, rested and ready roster fell to 46-35 after that. In the defined first half of 95 games, the team record was 62-33 (.653) or a pace to win 105 or 106 games depending upon how you split the hairs. In the remaining games, that all important division run, the team was only a 38-29 squad, with Tampa Bay being second best in the division.
It would appear that the strategy backfired mightily, not the in the least because of injuries to Didi and Judge. All that rest and guess what? They were injured late in the year anyway...I'd rather see the best line up on the field day in and day out with the odd rest day out of necessity...especially when players are hot...
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Post by kaybli on Nov 1, 2018 1:39:01 GMT -5
Here's Gardner's slash line after the All Star Break: .209/.288/.316. 9.5 million is a lot of money for a 35 year old coming off such a poor season. Hopefully he can rebound in 2019. Quoting this again because it gave me yet another thought. Whatever else you've done this evening, you've made my brain a bit tired, Chi. If I get a good night's sleep I'll thank you tomorrow... Brett Gardner has sort of become the poster boy for having poor second halves of seasons, and in 2018 perhaps even more so. We saw Aaron Boone using the team's analytics as the reason (excuse?) for randomly resting players to keep them fresh for the second half of the season, or more explicitly for the playoff drive. Defining the "first half" as up to the All Star game and the second half of course as after, here are the first and second half slashes for most* of the Yankees that played over 100 games. First Half Second Half
Gardner .254/.345/.403 .209/.288/.316
Hicks .249/.348/.491 .246/.388/.436
Andujar .279/.316/.489 .319/.345/.575
Didi .299/.372/.572 .233/.292/.408
Torres .294/.350/.555 .249/.329/.404
* I didn't include Stanton, because he wound up playing in 158 games, so he wasn't really routinely rested. I left out Walker because he wasn't seemingly on the "rest schedule" at that point because he had a couple of oddly timed hot streaks that didn't last long. I left Judge off the list because he only played in 19 games in the defined second half.
To add a bit of fuel to the fire, while Boone was playing nursemaid and resting players, the team still accumulated a 54-27 record in the first 81 games and the supposedly tanned, rested and ready roster fell to 46-35 after that. In the defined first half of 95 games, the team record was 62-33 (.653) or a pace to win 105 or 106 games depending upon how you split the hairs. In the remaining games, that all important division run, the team was only a 38-29 squad, with Tampa Bay being second best in the division.
It would appear that the strategy backfired mightily, not the in the least because of injuries to Didi and Judge. All that rest and guess what? They were injured late in the year anyway...I'd rather see the best line up on the field day in and day out with the odd rest day out of necessity...especially when players are hot...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 5:12:23 GMT -5
Inger going all jwild on us.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 1, 2018 9:28:26 GMT -5
Here's Gardner's slash line after the All Star Break: .209/.288/.316. 9.5 million is a lot of money for a 35 year old coming off such a poor season. Hopefully he can rebound in 2019. Quoting this again because it gave me yet another thought. Whatever else you've done this evening, you've made my brain a bit tired, Chi. If I get a good night's sleep I'll thank you tomorrow... Brett Gardner has sort of become the poster boy for having poor second halves of seasons, and in 2018 perhaps even more so. We saw Aaron Boone using the team's analytics as the reason (excuse?) for randomly resting players to keep them fresh for the second half of the season, or more explicitly for the playoff drive. Defining the "first half" as up to the All Star game and the second half of course as after, here are the first and second half slashes for most* of the Yankees that played over 100 games. First Half Second Half
Gardner .254/.345/.403 .209/.288/.316
Hicks .249/.348/.491 .246/.388/.436
Andujar .279/.316/.489 .319/.345/.575
Didi .299/.372/.572 .233/.292/.408
Torres .294/.350/.555 .249/.329/.404
* I didn't include Stanton, because he wound up playing in 158 games, so he wasn't really routinely rested. I left out Walker because he wasn't seemingly on the "rest schedule" at that point because he had a couple of oddly timed hot streaks that didn't last long. I left Judge off the list because he only played in 19 games in the defined second half.
To add a bit of fuel to the fire, while Boone was playing nursemaid and resting players, the team still accumulated a 54-27 record in the first 81 games and the supposedly tanned, rested and ready roster fell to 46-35 after that. In the defined first half of 95 games, the team record was 62-33 (.653) or a pace to win 105 or 106 games depending upon how you split the hairs. In the remaining games, that all important division run, the team was only a 38-29 squad, with Tampa Bay being second best in the division.
It would appear that the strategy backfired mightily, not the in the least because of injuries to Didi and Judge. All that rest and guess what? They were injured late in the year anyway...I'd rather see the best line up on the field day in and day out with the odd rest day out of necessity...especially when players are hot...
inger, we need to get this information to Cashman & Boone right away. |
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Post by inger on Nov 1, 2018 10:20:02 GMT -5
They've quit taking my calls. I think they know that I could be a threat to their jobs...
"This is what I know, and I'm telling Hal, right now"... (:
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