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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 20, 2019 20:57:43 GMT -5
Hope my memory holds up to scrutiny, inger! Renfield, the closest thing I could find was a game played Saturday, August 4, 1973. McDaniel pitched THIRTEEN innings of relief for Fritz Peterson, who only went one inning so I assume he was injured. Lindy gave up one run on six hits and the Yanks beat Detroit and their relief ace John Hiller 3-2 in 14 innings. Not sure that this is the game you recall, but I checked all the Yanks games from 68 through 73 and that is what I found. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 20, 2019 21:01:52 GMT -5
BTW, in those days night games still started at 8:05 but still often ended earlier than games today that start at 7:05. They used to play what they called twi-night doubleheaders that would start at either 5:35 or 6:05 and typically the two games would be over before 11 PM. I know because I went to a lot of them!!
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Post by inger on Feb 20, 2019 21:15:01 GMT -5
I can lend Renfield a bit more validation. In that same appearance, Lindy retired the first 21 batters he faced. In addition to that, he had started one game of a double-header vs. the Tigers two days previously and had retired the final 11 batters he faced in that appearance. I’m sure the announcers would have been talking about not only the perfection on that day, but also the perfection of the work at the end of the previous game.
He tired a bit at some point and struggled though a bases loaded jam in the 11th on the way to gaining the win in one of MLB’s great relief appearances...
It would have been very easy for a little boy named Renny listening on the radio that day to convolute the information and his memory a bit some 45.5 years later... (:
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Post by Renfield on Feb 20, 2019 21:39:01 GMT -5
Thanks inger! That's probably the game. He either had 9 no-hit innings during that one game or, as you say, the announcers were talking about that appearance in conjunction with the previous one.
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Post by inger on Feb 20, 2019 21:54:50 GMT -5
Thanks inger! That's probably the game. He either had 9 no-hit innings during that one game or, as you say, the announcers were talking about that appearance in conjunction with the previous one. I read an article that was written as a historical perspective of baseball’s greatest relief appearances this evening and this one was not even mentioned, much less given top-ten consideration. It deserved top ten in my opinion.. But there have been some real good ones. None recently, of course. I have to add that back when I was into Strat-O-Matic, which should also be known as “Noetsi-Ball”, Grant Jackson once came out of the pen and fanned all eight hitters he faced. Truly a roll of the dice sort of event... (: I’m embarrassed a bit that I was in my thirties when I took that game up, and that lasted about a whole decade... |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2019 11:20:05 GMT -5
How cool would it be if CC did a farewell “Mussina”
this season and put forth every ounce of what he has left to post up 20 wins? With his bad knee, it seems unlikely, but with a team that scores lots of runs and has an air-tight bullpen all he (or any starter) has to do is pitch 5-6 strong and sit down... Could happen. Not betting the farm on it, mostly because I don’t have a farm...
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 21, 2019 13:42:37 GMT -5
How cool would it be if CC did a farewell “Mussina” this season and put forth every ounce of what he has left to post up 20 wins? With his bad knee, it seems unlikely, but with a team that scores lots of runs and has an air-tight bullpen all he (or any starter) has to do is pitch 5-6 strong and sit down... Could happen. Not betting the farm on it, mostly because I don’t have a farm... Given the way he worked out and ate this offseason and how he’s talking about this year that’s what he’s shooting for. It is just a question of what his body allows and what he has left in the tank. |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2019 13:55:56 GMT -5
How cool would it be if CC did a farewell “Mussina” this season and put forth every ounce of what he has left to post up 20 wins? With his bad knee, it seems unlikely, but with a team that scores lots of runs and has an air-tight bullpen all he (or any starter) has to do is pitch 5-6 strong and sit down... Could happen. Not betting the farm on it, mostly because I don’t have a farm... Given the way he worked out and ate this offseason and how he’s talking about this year that’s what he’s shooting for. It is just a question of what his body allows and what he has left in the tank. One of the things I liked about Boone last season was the way he worked CC. He let him pitch out of trouble and allowed him to get in position to earn wins. Girardi had gotten to the point of pulling him at the first sign of trouble, which I felt was disrespectful of a veteran pitcher with a track record of knowing how to pitch and how to win. Boone didn’t always please me, but that was one aspect I liked and is a bit of a microcosmic view of his relationship skills with his players.,, |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 21, 2019 14:40:15 GMT -5
Given the way he worked out and ate this offseason and how he’s talking about this year that’s what he’s shooting for. It is just a question of what his body allows and what he has left in the tank. One of the things I liked about Boone last season was the way he worked CC. He let him pitch out of trouble and allowed him to get in position to earn wins. Girardi had gotten to the point of pulling him at the first sign of trouble, which I felt was disrespectful of a veteran pitcher with a track record of knowing how to pitch and how to win. Boone didn’t always please me, but that was one aspect I liked and is a bit of a microcosmic view of his relationship skills with his players.,, I didn’t like everything Boone did either (not sure if there is a manager fans would agree with all the time) but I agree with you about this. He seems to be concerned with his players for the right reasons. Did you see the story about him and Britton? Basically in the playoffs in the game he stayed with Severino one reason was that Britton was hurt but they hadn’t disclosed it. Cashman told Boone it was ok if he wanted to let the press know to take the heat off of him. Boone declined and cited Britton’s potential offseason freee agency as a reason not to use that as an excuse and instead took the heat without that as a shield. Players for sure notice and appreciate that and it builds trust. I don’t know if all other managers would do the same. He has plenty to learn about the job and I would bet he would agree given his limited track record but there’s a lot to like about how he goes about the personal side of the job. |
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 21, 2019 14:58:33 GMT -5
One of the things I liked about Boone last season was the way he worked CC. He let him pitch out of trouble and allowed him to get in position to earn wins. Girardi had gotten to the point of pulling him at the first sign of trouble, which I felt was disrespectful of a veteran pitcher with a track record of knowing how to pitch and how to win. Boone didn’t always please me, but that was one aspect I liked and is a bit of a microcosmic view of his relationship skills with his players.,, I didn’t like everything Boone did either (not sure if there is a manager fans would agree with all the time) but I agree with you about this. He seems to be concerned with his players for the right reasons. Did you see the story about him and Britton? Basically in the playoffs in the game he stayed with Severino one reason was that Britton was hurt but they hadn’t disclosed it. Cashman told Boone it was ok if he wanted to let the press know to take the heat off of him. Boone declined and cited Britton’s potential offseason freee agency as a reason not to use that as an excuse and instead took the heat without that as a shield. Players for sure notice and appreciate that and it builds trust. I don’t know if all other managers would do the same. He has plenty to learn about the job and I would bet he would agree given his limited track record but there’s a lot to like about how he goes about the personal side of the job. Who know's, maybe that played a part in Britton wanting to come back to the Yankees instead of closing elsewhere. |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2019 17:17:49 GMT -5
One of the things I liked about Boone last season was the way he worked CC. He let him pitch out of trouble and allowed him to get in position to earn wins. Girardi had gotten to the point of pulling him at the first sign of trouble, which I felt was disrespectful of a veteran pitcher with a track record of knowing how to pitch and how to win. Boone didn’t always please me, but that was one aspect I liked and is a bit of a microcosmic view of his relationship skills with his players.,, I didn’t like everything Boone did either (not sure if there is a manager fans would agree with all the time) but I agree with you about this. He seems to be concerned with his players for the right reasons. Did you see the story about him and Britton? Basically in the playoffs in the game he stayed with Severino one reason was that Britton was hurt but they hadn’t disclosed it. Cashman told Boone it was ok if he wanted to let the press know to take the heat off of him. Boone declined and cited Britton’s potential offseason freee agency as a reason not to use that as an excuse and instead took the heat without that as a shield. Players for sure notice and appreciate that and it builds trust. I don’t know if all other managers would do the same. He has plenty to learn about the job and I would bet he would agree given his limited track record but there’s a lot to like about how he goes about the personal side of the job. I wasn’t aware of that situation, but again, more kudos. I’m going to try to look more for the good than the bad in him this year, just knowing he’s such a decent human being. I always liked Francona for that, too... |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2019 17:18:47 GMT -5
I didn’t like everything Boone did either (not sure if there is a manager fans would agree with all the time) but I agree with you about this. He seems to be concerned with his players for the right reasons. Did you see the story about him and Britton? Basically in the playoffs in the game he stayed with Severino one reason was that Britton was hurt but they hadn’t disclosed it. Cashman told Boone it was ok if he wanted to let the press know to take the heat off of him. Boone declined and cited Britton’s potential offseason freee agency as a reason not to use that as an excuse and instead took the heat without that as a shield. Players for sure notice and appreciate that and it builds trust. I don’t know if all other managers would do the same. He has plenty to learn about the job and I would bet he would agree given his limited track record but there’s a lot to like about how he goes about the personal side of the job. Who know's, maybe that played a part in Britton wanting to come back Good point, chi!!! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 21, 2019 20:43:43 GMT -5
I didn’t like everything Boone did either (not sure if there is a manager fans would agree with all the time) but I agree with you about this. He seems to be concerned with his players for the right reasons. Did you see the story about him and Britton? Basically in the playoffs in the game he stayed with Severino one reason was that Britton was hurt but they hadn’t disclosed it. Cashman told Boone it was ok if he wanted to let the press know to take the heat off of him. Boone declined and cited Britton’s potential offseason freee agency as a reason not to use that as an excuse and instead took the heat without that as a shield. Players for sure notice and appreciate that and it builds trust. I don’t know if all other managers would do the same. He has plenty to learn about the job and I would bet he would agree given his limited track record but there’s a lot to like about how he goes about the personal side of the job. I wasn’t aware of that situation, but again, more kudos. I’m going to try to look more for the good than the bad in him this year, just knowing he’s such a decent human being. I always liked Francona for that, too... I hadn't heard that either, and I concur with all of you that it speaks well of that very important part of his managerial skills. And I too always liked Francona, even when he was with Boston, for those same reasons. |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 26, 2019 19:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Feb 26, 2019 19:41:56 GMT -5
I was at Game 4. Just 10 more feet and I'm confident we would have beat gimpy Sale in Game 5 too. Oh well, at least I can rewrite history when I play the Show. |
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