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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 9:31:08 GMT -5
Recalling Mattingly’s 8-game home run streak:
The Consecutive Game Home Run Streak:
07-08-1987: Don Mattingly hit the first two record setting home runs. In the bottom of the first inning, Mike Smithson was on the mound, and in the bottom of the sixth, Juan Berenguer pitching in relief.
07-09-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the bottom of the sixth inning, Richard Dotson was on the mound, bases were empty, two outs had been recorded.
07-10-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the bottom of the second inning, Joel McKeon was on the mound in relief, bases were loaded, one out.
07-11-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the bottom of the third inning, Jose DeLeon was on the mound, bases were empty, two outs had been recorded.
07-12-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the bottom of the seventh inning, Jim Winn was on the mound in relief, bases were empty, two outs had been recorded.
07-16-1987: Don Mattingly hit two again. In the top of the second inning, Charlie Hough was on the mound and in the top of the eighth, Mitch Williams pitching in relief.
07-17-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the top of the sixth inning, Paul Kilgus was on the mound in relief, bases were empty, two outs had been recorded.
07-18-1987: Don Mattingly hit a homer in the top of the fourth inning, Jose Guzman was on the mound, bases were empty, no outs…
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 9:33:20 GMT -5
And if that wasn’t enough:
Consecutive Game Home Run Streak Notes:
Consecutive Home Run Major League Records set by Mattingly during the streak include: Most Home Runs Hit in 7 Consecutive Games (9), Most Home Runs Hit in 8 Consecutive Games (10), and Most Consecutive Games With At Least One Home Run Hit (8).
The grand slam Mattingly hit during the streak on July 10, 1987, was his third (May 14 / June 29) of the season. The homer versus Hough on July 16th was also a slam, the fourth of the year, and Don went on to hit two more grand slams that year, September 25, versus Jose Mesa and September 29, versus Bruce Hurst. A new Major League record (6) for grand slams in a season and the only grand slams Mattingly would ever hit across his entire fourteen year career…
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Post by kaybli on Mar 13, 2023 9:49:12 GMT -5
What do these seven players have in common? Tough trivia… Amos Otis Norm Cash Eric Soderholm Bobby Grich Dusty Baker Willie Randolph Roberto Alomar… It’s been 20 hours and there are no bites on this beauty? Kaybli, did you break your Google? … Time will run out this evening… Lol, I did google it but still wasn’t able to figure it out. |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 12:11:03 GMT -5
It’s been 20 hours and there are no bites on this beauty? Kaybli, did you break your Google? … Time will run out this evening… Lol, I did google it but still wasn’t able to figure it out. I may as well give this one away. I gave a pretty strong hint when I noted that there were seven players on the list. These are the seven men who made the last outs in Nolan Ryan’s no hitters… |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 12:28:20 GMT -5
In 1978, 18 year old Brian Milner was signed out of high school and sent directly to MLB with the Blue Jays, the only catcher ever to play MLB directly from high school since the establishment of the draft system.
Despite going 4 for 9 in two games (with a triple, no less!), he was quickly farmed out and never made it back to MLB after his career was shortened by an injury.
Current MLB journeyman LOOGY Hoby Miller is his son..
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 13:00:27 GMT -5
From Yanks Go Yard: "Let's go down the list! Aaron Hicks: we've dealt with him since 2015!! Aroldis Chapman: nobody liked him and his positive contributions never amounted to anything. Clint (Jackson) Frazier: in the running for most disappointing top prospect in recent memory? Sonny Gray: nightmare. Brandon Drury: the man couldn't see straight. Zack Britton: didn't get the job done and spent the last two years injured. Lance Lynn: what happened? James Paxton: you knew his injury history! Rougned Odor: why? Joey Gallo: the worst ever? Andrew Heaney: hilarious. Josh Donaldson and Isiah Kiner-Falefa: insulting that that trade was considered a "blockbuster." Andrew Benintendi: 33 games and broke his wrist swinging a bat. Lou Trivino: starting 2023 on the IL. Harrison Bader: acquired injured, and now injured again. Scott Effross: 13 games pitched before needing Tommy John surgery. Frankie Montas: acquired injured, made eight starts, underwent shoulder surgery, probably won't see him in 2023." And speaking of that last one, Montas admitted earlier this week that he wasn't 100% healthy when the Yankees traded for him at the 2022 deadline. Wow, didn't see that coming, did we? Again, whether it's Cashman's direct fault or not, how can any fan trust that whatever move he makes will provide a positive impact for the team? Point to the trades for Wandy Peralta, Clay Holmes, Michael King, Jose Trevino, Anthony Rizzo and Jameson Taillon all you want. That's not enough to help a team win a championship. But Cashman went the extra mile a day later to defend the deal for Montas, which, we're just not sure how you can. It's a loss in every corner of the sports world." The time of pretending needs to end. When other teams are making $400M offers and the Yanks are offering $213M, when other teams are a not balking at signing the stars of the game, the Yankees need to stop pretending to not enough revenue to even offer. I must say that the initial returns on Luke Voit, Mike Tauchman, etc. were quite fun and delightful, they were flawed players and in time the flaws became more glaring than the successes. The next step is to learn to move in from the flawed players still on the roster. We need not pretend that 38 year old players are going to play at the level they did five years ago, nor that a player that’s been on the DL year after year is going finally “blossom” in his mid thirties and remain healthy. The object shouldn’t be to run the tightest ship in the business. It should be to best the best team in MLB… |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 13:11:04 GMT -5
Qualifying players with batting titles in consecutive seasons, but not in the Hall of Fame.
I’m not advocating for these players, just stating fact. Some had short careers, low production in other departments, personality or legal issues…
Barnes........................ 1872 (.430), 1873 (.431)
Daubert...................... 1913 (.350), 1914 (.329)
Davis.......................... 1962 (.346), 1962 (.326)
Fain............................ 1951 (.344), 1952 (.327)
Garciaparra............... 1999 (.357), 2000 (.372)
Hines.......................... 1878 (.358), 1879 (.357)
Madlock..................... 1975 (.354), (1976) (.339)
O’Neill........................ 1887 (.435), 1888 (.335)
Parker........................ 1977 (.338), 1978 (.334)
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2023 13:21:18 GMT -5
An odd note here. I reached out to B-R inquiring as to the missing information re the death of Jesus Alou. They thanked me for the “contribution” and said that Mr. Alou’s death would be featured “soon”, including adding his name to their memoriam listing.
Nothing said about how it was missed. I’ve been catching a few holes in their game of late and am beginning to doubt their usefulness as an “ultimate authority”.
It’s still a useful and valuable site that I refer to multiple times per day and verify information I’ve obtained elsewhere, perhaps because the site is still free and mostly user friendly. They are beginning to encourage users to consider signing up as a “Stat Head” to utilize some advanced features and to use the site free of advertisements.
It’s been maybe a week or so since Alou’s passing hit the general media stream. Their lack of follow up is disturbing to me…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 13, 2023 15:40:23 GMT -5
The following pitchers have each had two games with two home runs hit during those games during the same season: Wes Ferrell (1934, Boston AL), Don Newcombe (1955, Brooklyn NL), Jack Harshman (1958, Baltimore AL), Dick Donovan (1962, Cleveland AL), Tony Cloninger (1966, Atlanta NL) & Rick Wise (1971, Philadelphia NL)... Those last two I remember quite well. Not sure how I missed Harshman and Donovan, both solid Baseball Card Guys (BCGs) for me. Cloninger was amazing in that first game -- his two home runs were grand slams, and he knocked in another run later, setting a pitcher's record of nine RBIs in a game. Three weeks earlier he had tied the record for pitchers with five RBIs in a game. It got a lot of press notice. He finished that year with 23 RBIs -- not bad for a guy with only 111 ABs. In the game where he hit two grand slams, in both cases the number eight hitter Denis Menke was intentionally walked to get to him. Cloninger was with the Braves at that time -- in that same game, three well-known teammates also homered -- Hank Aaron, Joe Torre and Rico Carty. Cloninger had a few good years for the Braves -- from 64-66 he won 57 games, which today would earn him a lifetime of wealth. I remember him later as a rather portly pitching coach. The first of those Rick Wise two-homer games is very vivid to me. It was in late June and a couple of friends and I spent the whole day in Philly -- not at the game, alas, just eating, visiting obscure museums and buying 1971 clothes at what passed for hipster shops (lots of flare-leg pants and boots and my first pair of Windsor glasses.) By late afternoon we were bar-hopping -- what else was there to do? -- and in passing it became obvious that Rick Wise was on to something -- not only hitting home runs, but pitching a no-hitter -- which is what he did, two HRs and a no-hitter to boot. That's a pretty productive day. In addition to a second two-homer game, Wise later that year had a game where, after allowing three runs in 2 1/3 innings, he proceeded to retire 32 batters in a row and then drove in the game-winning run in the bottom of the twelfth. Rick Wise had a pretty good career -- made his debut with the Phillies at age 18 in 1964 and went 5-3 that year. After Jim Bunning had pitched a perfect game against the Mets in game one of a doubleheader on Father's Day of 64, Wise allowed only three hits in winning game two, and I do recall watching both games on our then brand-new Magnavox console color TV and thinking technology had gone about as far as anyone could imagine. After his outstanding 1971 season, Wise was traded to St. Louis for Steve Carlton -- the first of two times he would be traded for a future HOFer -- and won 32 games in two years for the Cardinals before being traded to Boston. He led the 1975 AL champion Red Sox with 19 victories (one more than Luis Tiant and two more than Bill Lee) and was the winning pitcher, in relief, in Game Six of the World Series, the Carlton Fisk HR game. Boston later traded him to Cleveland for Dennis Eckersley -- HOFer number two. Wise wound up with a career record of 188-181, nothing special but a reliable and consistent workhorse who ate up innings for most of his 18 years in the majors. A lot of you guys must remember him if only because he was around for so long. When he broke in, he was teammates with guys like Bobby Shantz and Ryne Duren and Don Hoak and Vic Power. In his last season of 1982 his teammates included the likes of Tony Gwynn and Garry Templeton. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2023 12:47:31 GMT -5
In 1950 Ferris Fain participated in 192 DPs as a 1B, which was 2 short of the record he sat the year before. He still holds the top two spots.
Fain is 15th all time in OBP, ahead of such stalwarts as Mickey z Mantle and Shoeless Joe Jackson.
It is said he would charge bunts that were on the third base side of the infield and successfully start DPs.
#3 on the DPs list is Donn Clendenon with 182…
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 14, 2023 14:02:35 GMT -5
In 1950 Ferris Fain participated in 192 DPs as a 1B, which was 2 short of the record he sat the year before. He still holds the top two spots. Fain is 15th all time in OBP, ahead of such stalwarts as Mickey z Mantle and Shoeless Joe Jackson. It is said he would charge bunts that were on the third base side of the infield and successfully start DPs. #3 on the DPs list is Donn Clendenon with 182… Did the third baseman also charge balls on the first base side? That would have been one heck of an aggressive infield, with the catcher running up the first baseline and the pitcher running to home plate. That is a Three Stooges crash waiting to happen.  |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2023 15:27:07 GMT -5
In 1950 Ferris Fain participated in 192 DPs as a 1B, which was 2 short of the record he sat the year before. He still holds the top two spots. Fain is 15th all time in OBP, ahead of such stalwarts as Mickey z Mantle and Shoeless Joe Jackson. It is said he would charge bunts that were on the third base side of the infield and successfully start DPs. #3 on the DPs list is Donn Clendenon with 182… Did the third baseman also charge balls on the first base side? That would have been one heck of an aggressive infield, with the catcher running up the first baseline and the pitcher running to home plate. That is a Three Stooges crash waiting to happen. 😂😂… Benny Hill music 🎶 🎼 🎵… Catcher popping out in front of the plate, pitcher leap frogs him to cover home… |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2023 15:32:51 GMT -5
Tommy Davis was an outstanding multi-sport athlete at Boys High School in Brooklyn & played alongside future NBA Hall of Famers Tom “Satch" Sanders and Lenny Wilkens on their basketball team…
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Post by BillyBones on Mar 14, 2023 19:03:27 GMT -5
From Yanks Go Yard: "Let's go down the list! Aaron Hicks: we've dealt with him since 2015!! Aroldis Chapman: nobody liked him and his positive contributions never amounted to anything. Clint (Jackson) Frazier: in the running for most disappointing top prospect in recent memory? Sonny Gray: nightmare. Brandon Drury: the man couldn't see straight. Zack Britton: didn't get the job done and spent the last two years injured. Lance Lynn: what happened? James Paxton: you knew his injury history! Rougned Odor: why? Joey Gallo: the worst ever? Andrew Heaney: hilarious. Josh Donaldson and Isiah Kiner-Falefa: insulting that that trade was considered a "blockbuster." Andrew Benintendi: 33 games and broke his wrist swinging a bat. Lou Trivino: starting 2023 on the IL. Harrison Bader: acquired injured, and now injured again. Scott Effross: 13 games pitched before needing Tommy John surgery. Frankie Montas: acquired injured, made eight starts, underwent shoulder surgery, probably won't see him in 2023." And speaking of that last one, Montas admitted earlier this week that he wasn't 100% healthy when the Yankees traded for him at the 2022 deadline. Wow, didn't see that coming, did we? Again, whether it's Cashman's direct fault or not, how can any fan trust that whatever move he makes will provide a positive impact for the team? Point to the trades for Wandy Peralta, Clay Holmes, Michael King, Jose Trevino, Anthony Rizzo and Jameson Taillon all you want. That's not enough to help a team win a championship. But Cashman went the extra mile a day later to defend the deal for Montas, which, we're just not sure how you can. It's a loss in every corner of the sports world." The time of pretending needs to end. When other teams are making $400M offers and the Yanks are offering $213M, when other teams are a not balking at signing the stars of the game, the Yankees need to stop pretending to not enough revenue to even offer. I must say that the initial returns on Luke Voit, Mike Tauchman, etc. were quite fun and delightful, they were flawed players and in time the flaws became more glaring than the successes. The next step is to learn to move in from the flawed players still on the roster. We need not pretend that 38 year old players are going to play at the level they did five years ago, nor that a player that’s been on the DL year after year is going finally “blossom” in his mid thirties and remain healthy. The object shouldn’t be to run the tightest ship in the business. It should be to best the best team in MLB… Wow! Absolutely. I have expressed the same sentiments in the past, although mine were not stated as well, and felt, well, indifference, I guess. So I stopped saying so. What are the Yankees? a garbage franchise? I have hoped the Steins will change their approach and reflect owners that deserve management of the greatest franchise in any sport any time. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 15, 2023 7:55:04 GMT -5
In 1950 Ferris Fain participated in 192 DPs as a 1B, which was 2 short of the record he sat the year before. He still holds the top two spots. Fain is 15th all time in OBP, ahead of such stalwarts as Mickey z Mantle and Shoeless Joe Jackson. It is said he would charge bunts that were on the third base side of the infield and successfully start DPs. #3 on the DPs list is Donn Clendenon with 182… Ferris Fain had in many ways a Sabrmetrician's HOF career. His career OBP of .424 would rank eighth all-time if you only consider the live ball era. Only Williams-Ruth-Gehrig-Hornsby (and yes Bonds, I know, I know) level players were higher. He has the fourth-best BB-K ratio of any player in history, behind only Joe Sewell (who never struck out), Mickey Cochrane and Tommy Holmes. He had a higher ratio of walks to hits than Ted Williams, the only person among those who also have a batting title to do so, and he is seventh all-time in that category. He was a five-time All Star in his brief span. And then there were all those DPs he participated in. Fain had the misfortune, for a baseball player, of being born in 1921. That would just about maximize the amount of time your career would be interrupted for World War II. He was too young to be called up before the widespread draft began in 1942, and by the time players were returning in 1945 he still had to prove he was big league material. He didn't make his debut until 1947, when he was 26 years old. He was finished by age 34 in 1955, the victim of bad knees. So he had nine full seasons, not enough to rack up big counting numbers, although excellent comparative numbers. As far as I know, he has never been on a HOF ballot, perhaps because he didn't play ten years? Not sure what that rule is. One big problem Ferris Fain had was that nobody could stand him. He had a violent temper, drank heavily and was quick to get into fistfights. His teammates hated him. Now I know there are people in Cooperstown who meet some of those standards, but hitting on all of them is pretty rare. The people with the Philadelphia A's Historical Society would regularly invite old A's players to attend their meetings in the 80s and 90s (the period I know most about for that group) but the one guy nobody ever asked to see was Ferris Fain. I know he lived in California, but so did Gus Zernial, and he was often in attendance. Fain had a few convictions for growing and selling cannabis back in that period -- yeah I get that it's legal now, so maybe he was a trailblazer, but it didn't sit well with his ex-mates of that generation who already disliked him for plenty of other reasons. It's hard to find many quotes from him, but the ones I found made him seem like an all-around grouch. He said that "Reggie Jackson has no more business being in the HOF than my grandmother" because of all his strikeouts. He took shots at Connie Mack, never a good way to curry favor among the old Athletics' players. All of those DPs at first is definitely an eye-opener. SS Eddie Joost and 2B Pete Suder were famous in their time for turning them, so that helped. You could say the same about Donn Clendenon, who piled up those numbers on the receiving end of throws from Bill Mazeroski and Gene Alley, the best DP combo in the NL of the 1960s and one of the best ever. BillyBones saw Fain play, so I hope he chimes in here. All real Philadelphians pronounced his name as "Furris Fain." |
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