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Post by inger on Oct 26, 2019 21:28:07 GMT -5
Which goes back to what I’ve said for years. Balance. Some of this, some of that, just all of it has to be something good. Some OBP guys, some free swingers with a high average and and great contact skills. And certainly some power guys, throw some speed in there...one game can be shut down by the opponents. A mixed attack is more flexible and hard to stop...I actually rather see the team somewhere between about third and sixth in each category than to see it lead the league in BA or HR. Do everything well...And double that with the glove... Interesting thread with everyone making some good points. In my opinion, homeruns have become king. No team wins without them. And, while the number of guys who hit 50+ remains small, the number who hit between 25-38, or so, is pretty high. Batting average doesn't seem to mean as much as it used to. Strikeouts don't mean what they used to, either. Walks, and .OBP, mean more. Aaron Judge,for example, is viewed not as a good, but as a great young player. Why? He's a +defensively, walks a lot, and hits homeruns. The fact that he strikes out like Rob Deer doesn't seem to factor into the equation. Years ago, "great" players hit .300. Take a look at the league leaders and you’ll see that almost everyone that hit .320 or higher had good HR counts, too. The greatest of the great still hit for average AND HR. There are some others that achieve greatness by draw BB to boost the OBP along with the HR. Then you have the Joey Gallos (congratulations to him for greatly improving his BA in 2019... |
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Post by noetsi on Oct 27, 2019 18:22:56 GMT -5
Personally I prefer people who can hit well over home run hitters, but that is not the way the league works these days. Strike outs annoy me. But that is just me....the models may say that lots of home runs are the way to win even if you hit .230 and k a gadzillion times.... In my line of work I can't very well argue with models...  |
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Post by hawaiiyankee on Oct 28, 2019 14:06:47 GMT -5
Just wondering why the guys like DJ LeMeheiu and Michael Brantley don't get the monster contracts of a Stanton or Bryce Harper. Is it because they can hit more HRs? I appreciate guys like Brantley more come post season. Why do we trade for a Stanton instead of targeting a guy like Brantley? Jeff McNeil of the Mets is a guy I would target too. They have high OBPs. Hit about 20 HRs. Get a team full of those kind of guys and see what happens.
Guys like Altuve, Betts, Bregman, and Rendon are guys who fit this category but I consider them All-Stars because they hit for power. I'm just looking for guys who don't strikeout as much although I can appreciate Judge for his high OBP. That's a guy you keep even with the high Ks. No brainer. Get Sanchez out of our lineup. I think if Romine played the entire series we might've won. I mean you don't know but after Sanchez's performance, I don't think he would've done much worse(worst?) although Romine doesn't have the best OBP.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 28, 2019 14:59:35 GMT -5
Just wondering why the guys like DJ LeMeheiu and Michael Brantley don't get the monster contracts of a Stanton or Bryce Harper. Is it because they can hit more HRs? I appreciate guys like Brantley more come post season. Why do we trade for a Stanton instead of targeting a guy like Brantley? Jeff McNeil of the Mets is a guy I would target too. They have high OBPs. Hit about 20 HRs. Get a team full of those kind of guys and see what happens. Guys like Altuve, Betts, Bregman, and Rendon are guys who fit this category but I consider them All-Stars because they hit for power. I'm just looking for guys who don't strikeout as much although I can appreciate Judge for his high OBP. That's a guy you keep even with the high Ks. No brainer. Get Sanchez out of our lineup. I think if Romine played the entire series we might've won. I mean you don't know but after Sanchez's performance, I don't think he would've done much worse(worst?) although Romine doesn't have the best OBP. There’s a lot of explanation about that Stanton trade in Bryan Hoch’s book. The short answer is that the Yankees ownership and front office didn’t think the kids would be ready as quickly as they were to contribute and they were looking for ways to keep the team competitive on the field and marketable to fans. Stanton was a marquee star available in trade. Cashman negotiated the price down to where he and ownership felt it was compelling. On DJ, they did acquire him and ownership and the front office were destroyed by the NY media and fans for doing so. Sure it looks brilliant in hindsight but that’s not the way the trade was received at the time. And that probably answers the question of why teams don’t do it more. |
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