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Post by greatfatness on Nov 21, 2019 5:28:36 GMT -5
I think the floor is what StL got for hacking into Houston’s computers. The wild card here is whether MLB concludes this goes beyond Houston. I’m betting it does. Probably involves every team... I’m extremely interested in this story but the primary reason I’m not out with the pitchforks and torches is that there’s a decent chance we learn the Yankees were doing something similar. And if so, their outrage will look pretty goofy. As a fan, I’m just interested to let it play out and hope we get something close to the truth, although I wouldn’t count on it. |
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Post by inger on Nov 21, 2019 13:48:25 GMT -5
I’m betting it does. Probably involves every team... I’m extremely interested in this story but the primary reason I’m not out with the pitchforks and torches is that there’s a decent chance we learn the Yankees were doing something similar. And if so, their outrage will look pretty goofy. As a fan, I’m just interested to let it play out and hope we get something close to the truth, although I wouldn’t count on it. The truth is that if you’re going to do something nefarious you’d best take extreme unction to be clandestine. From some of the leaked video it appears that Houston may have been sloppy in their haste to install new equipment. No matter what policy baseball decides to instill, enforcement is going to be difficult... |
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Post by noetsi on Nov 21, 2019 17:34:34 GMT -5
Whoever cheated should be punished hard enough. I think putting the players on the permanent ineligible list would get player's attention.
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Post by NewYawka on Nov 22, 2019 12:42:42 GMT -5
They are going to have a very hard time going after individual players. It will have to be the organization. They can fine/suspend the manager, GM, owner, etc.
But the players are probably walking away from this unscathed.
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Post by inger on Nov 22, 2019 13:04:49 GMT -5
They are going to have a very hard time going after individual players. It will have to be the organization. They can fine/suspend the manager, GM, owner, etc. But the players are probably walking away from this unscathed. I agree with this. The players were benefitting, but they weren’t the ones running wires and setting up monitoring equipment. Once the system was in place, all they had to do was bang on a trash can or whistle... or listen for the banging and whistling... |
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Post by NewYawka on Nov 22, 2019 14:45:20 GMT -5
In fact, I would bet the only players who could be disciplined are those who are found to have directly participated in the "banging"...not the batters. And there would have to be proof of that even.
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 22, 2019 17:54:27 GMT -5
They are going to have a very hard time going after individual players. It will have to be the organization. They can fine/suspend the manager, GM, owner, etc. But the players are probably walking away from this unscathed. I doubt they have any interest in disciplinary action against players. |
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Post by inger on Nov 22, 2019 17:59:15 GMT -5
They are going to have a very hard time going after individual players. It will have to be the organization. They can fine/suspend the manager, GM, owner, etc. But the players are probably walking away from this unscathed. I doubt they have any interest in disciplinary action against players. Or anyone else for that matter. They have to play the part to appease the fans... |
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 22, 2019 23:26:46 GMT -5
I doubt they have any interest in disciplinary action against players. Or anyone else for that matter. They have to play the part to appease the fans... I do think they will discipline the Astros to make an example of them. Other teams are likely doing the same and they’ll sweep that under the rug. The NFL did the same. |
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Post by sierchio on Nov 23, 2019 19:16:05 GMT -5
They are going to have a very hard time going after individual players. It will have to be the organization. They can fine/suspend the manager, GM, owner, etc. But the players are probably walking away from this unscathed. I doubt they have any interest in disciplinary action against players. Any discipline should be handed on the field... a bean ball to the ribs... All kidding aside.. I hate to be naive... of course all teams are trying to gain an advantage by stealing signs... I really don't think many teams other than the Astro's went all out this much with the technology... |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 23, 2019 20:41:03 GMT -5
Astros on social media:
Bregman: Deleted everything. Has posted 3 times in 10 days.
Springer has 1 post on instagram.
Correa posted his wedding pics but nothing else in the past 10 days
Altuve hasnt posted in about 10 days.
Josh Reddick posted his kids but otherwise silent for 10ish days.
Verlander hasnt posted in about 2 weeks.
Gurriel hasnt posted in 2 weeks.
Brad Peacock; No posts in 2 weeks.
Yordan alvarez; yep no posts in 2 weeks.
Osunas is private
Jake marisnick; nothing in 2 weeks.
Collin McHugh; Nothing in 2 weeks.
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Post by sierchio on Nov 23, 2019 23:54:49 GMT -5
Jim Crane... has police escort at owners meetings
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Post by sierchio on Nov 23, 2019 23:55:18 GMT -5
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Post by sierchio on Nov 24, 2019 0:42:36 GMT -5
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Post by sierchio on Nov 27, 2019 15:12:37 GMT -5
According to league sources, allegations against Houston in the 2019 ALCS extend beyond hitting coach Alex Cintron's whistling, which inspired third base coach Phil Nevin to tell Houston third baseman Alex Bregman, "Tell your f-cking hitting coach I'm going kick his f-cking ass." SNY has learned that the Yankees also complained to the league about blinking lights in center field early on in Game 6 at Minute Maid Park -- just days after Hinch responded angrily to SNY's report about the whistling. Imagine the hubris required to keep cheating after that. The blinking ceased after the early innings. www.sny.tv/yankees/news/the-yankees-got-screwed-allegations-highlight-how-astros-sign-stealing-robbed-chunk-of-championship-window/312018764 |
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