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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2020 14:53:26 GMT -5
There has been really wide plate all day for both sides...
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2020 15:30:02 GMT -5
He did it AGAIN!...
What a joy to see the faces on Yogi and Larsen as they watched the final out.
The “controversial” final pitch was indeed a strike. Ruthie has confirmed it for me. She’s not a great fan of baseball, but watches and roots for the Yankees with me on occasion. Somehow, with such a limited baseball background she’s become particularly adept at umpiring. She will insist her call was the right one regardless of what happened on the field or what I say. Replay reviews can really piss her off at times...
Lordy, the man didn’t know he had thrown a perfect game because he didn’t know what a perfect game meant...He WAS a drunk, wasn’t he?... 😂
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Post by kaybli on Jan 4, 2020 15:42:59 GMT -5
He did it AGAIN!... What a joy to see the faces on Yogi and Larsen as they watched the final out. The “controversial” final pitch was indeed a strike. Ruthie has confirmed it for me. She’s not a great fan of baseball, but watches and roots for the Yankees with me on occasion. Somehow, with such a limited baseball background she’s become particularly adept at umpiring. She will insist her call was the right one regardless of what happened on the field or what I say. Replay reviews can really piss her off at times... Lordy, the man didn’t know he had thrown a perfect game because he didn’t know what a perfect game meant...He WAS a drunk, wasn’t he?... 😂 Damn, I should have watched this classic game, but I was out. I'll find it on youtube or something later I guess.
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2020 15:55:24 GMT -5
He did it AGAIN!... What a joy to see the faces on Yogi and Larsen as they watched the final out. The “controversial” final pitch was indeed a strike. Ruthie has confirmed it for me. She’s not a great fan of baseball, but watches and roots for the Yankees with me on occasion. Somehow, with such a limited baseball background she’s become particularly adept at umpiring. She will insist her call was the right one regardless of what happened on the field or what I say. Replay reviews can really piss her off at times... Lordy, the man didn’t know he had thrown a perfect game because he didn’t know what a perfect game meant...He WAS a drunk, wasn’t he?... 😂 Damn, I should have watched this classic game, but I was out. I'll find it on youtube or something later I guess. Amazing that this only exists because some guy set up a recording device in front of his TV set. With that considered, the quality is much better than you’d expect. Too bad the first inning is missing, but that’s better than missing the ninth!...
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2020 16:00:12 GMT -5
Another special thank you and shout out to our buddy Great Fatness for thinking of the gang here and letting us know this game was on. Quite embarrassed that I only got up about 15 minutes before it came on. Started at 11:00 here. I went outside and it was already one of the most gorgeous, warm, sunny, windless days in the history of the world outside at 42 degrees. Now it’s sixty, and I have get outside and enjoy it while it lasts...
I stayed in to watch the masterpiece. I’m content with that...
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 5, 2020 10:45:20 GMT -5
Boy did I enjoy watching that game. I had never seen anything but the ninth inning before that. I had to DVR it because I was out and about most of yesterday, but having just viewed it, a few random thoughts.
My only disappointment was that the kinescope kicked in seconds after the play I most wanted to see -- Jackie Robinson leading off the second inning with a shot that deflected off the glove of Yankee third baseman Andy Carey over to SS Gil McDougald, whose throw nipped Jackie at first.
Among the reasons the game moved so quickly -- not a single mound visit, manager or players, for the Yankees, and only two --one by Manager Walter Alston and one by catcher Roy Campanella-- for the Dodgers. Only two walks total, obviously by Sal Maglie, and only one at bat for either team where the pitch count reached six. I think there was only one AB where a two-strike pitch was fouled off, although I'm not 100 percent certain on that. Hitters rarely stepped out of the box.
There weren't a lot of difficult defensive plays for either team. Probably the best was a diving catch by Duke Snider charging in fom center, and of course Mantle made a fine running catch in deep left-center, more notable for how quickly he covered so much ground rather than being an acrobatic play. Mickey could fly and it was so nice to see that again. Not to mention his home run that put the Yanks on the board.
I had not realized how close both Snider and Sandy Amoros came to drilling long home runs down the right field line, both of them foul by just a few feet.
I concur with Inger that home plate umpire Babe Pinelli seemed to have a generous strike zone on outside pitches, although to be fair the viewing angle we had was far from definitive. It was his last game umpiring at home plate after a long and by most accounts excellent career.
I found myself wanting to see replays! And I also found myself swept up in the game even though I knew what was going to happen. You could still feel the tension.
How great to have Mel Allen and Vin Scully calling the game. It was all about the game in front of them, contributing to the flow rather than hammering home side issues. Letting the game breathe, as they used to say. Like the almost non-existent graphics, it was lean and clean. Sort of like reading Hemingway.
It occurred to me that of the 19 players who appeared on the field in that game, the protagonist Don Larsen was the last to pass away.
It also occured to me that unlike a football or basketball game of that era, baseball looks pretty much the same today as it did then. The production was vastly different, but what you could see on the field was very familiar.
A great way to spend a few hours on a cold January day.
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Post by inger on Jan 5, 2020 13:30:59 GMT -5
Boy did I enjoy watching that game. I had never seen anything but the ninth inning before that. I had to DVR it because I was out and about most of yesterday, but having just viewed it, a few random thoughts. My only disappointment was that the kinescope kicked in seconds after the play I most wanted to see -- Jackie Robinson leading off the second inning with a shot that deflected off the glove of Yankee third baseman Andy Carey over to SS Gil McDougald, whose throw nipped Jackie at first. Among the reasons the game moved so quickly -- not a single mound visit, manager or players, for the Yankees, and only two --one by Manager Walter Alston and one by catcher Roy Campanella-- for the Dodgers. Only two walks total, obviously by Sal Maglie, and only one at bat for either team where the pitch count reached six. I think there was only one AB where a two-strike pitch was fouled off, although I'm not 100 percent certain on that. Hitters rarely stepped out of the box. There weren't a lot of difficult defensive plays for either team. Probably the best was a diving catch by Duke Snider charging in fom center, and of course Mantle made a fine running catch in deep left-center, more notable for how quickly he covered so much ground rather than being an acrobatic play. Mickey could fly and it was so nice to see that again. Not to mention his home run that put the Yanks on the board. I had not realized how close both Snider and Sandy Amoros came to drilling long home runs down the right field line, both of them foul by just a few feet. I concur with Inger that home plate umpire Babe Pinelli seemed to have a generous strike zone on outside pitches, although to be fair the viewing angle we had was far from definitive. It was his last game umpiring at home plate after a long and by most accounts excellent career. I found myself wanting to see replays! And I also found myself swept up in the game even though I knew what was going to happen. You could still feel the tension. How great to have Mel Allen and Vin Scully calling the game. It was all about the game in front of them, contributing to the flow rather than hammering home side issues. Letting the game breathe, as they used to say. Like the almost non-existent graphics, it was lean and clean. Sort of like reading Hemingway. It occurred to me that of the 19 players who appeared on the field in that game, the protagonist Don Larsen was the last to pass away. It also occured to me that unlike a football or basketball game of that era, baseball looks pretty much the same today as it did then. The production was vastly different, but what you could see on the field was very familiar. A great way to spend a few hours on a cold January day. Mentioning Scully and Allen and the crisp, factual broadcasting... Two guys that were working alone, so they had no one to talk to except the audience. They also didn’t continue fish for compliments from each other, nor brag about their baseball careers, since they had none. Finally, they had started working in the field of radio, which had an influence on how they worked a broadcast. Seems MLB had something there, and the idea of hiring former players to add “color” was the ruination of the art. The first color guys did a fair job, providing insight to the game. Then it became a way to continue their celebrity from their playing days to the point of today’s A-Rod/Mendoza massacres...
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 5, 2020 14:10:27 GMT -5
How did you like that "interview" with Carl Hubbell about his election to the Hall of Fame? Hah, it lasted about 20 seconds. No fuss, no muss. Back to the action.
Some of the early radio announcers were ex-players, but unlike later color commentators they were singleton play by play guys. Harry Heilmann, Pie Traynor and Walter Johnson among them. Walter was apparently among the sweetest of men, but his broadcasting style was definitely muddled. You can find clips of these guys on youtube.
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Post by inger on Jan 5, 2020 14:27:45 GMT -5
How did you like that "interview" with Carl Hubbell about his election to the Hall of Fame? Hah, it lasted about 20 seconds. No fuss, no muss. Back to the action. Some of the early radio announcers were ex-players, but unlike later color commentators they were singleton play by play guys. Harry Heilmann, Pie Traynor and Walter Johnson among them. Walter was apparently among the sweetest of men, but his broadcasting style was definitely muddled. You can find clips of these guys on youtube. I had to miss a couple of innings putting out fires for work. Sadly, that included Hubbell’s brief moment. When they said 15 seconds of fame back then, they meant it. No Kardashian fortunes built... Yes, the end of the singletons was really the issue. I think hiring of former players was inevitable, though not particularly smart...
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 5, 2020 14:34:29 GMT -5
How did you like that "interview" with Carl Hubbell about his election to the Hall of Fame? Hah, it lasted about 20 seconds. No fuss, no muss. Back to the action. Some of the early radio announcers were ex-players, but unlike later color commentators they were singleton play by play guys. Harry Heilmann, Pie Traynor and Walter Johnson among them. Walter was apparently among the sweetest of men, but his broadcasting style was definitely muddled. You can find clips of these guys on youtube. I had to miss a couple of innings putting out fires for work. Sadly, that included Hubbell’s brief moment. When they said 15 seconds of fame back then, they meant it. No Kardashian fortunes built... Yes, the end of the singletons was really the issue. I think hiring of former players was inevitable, though not particularly smart... Sure, I knew what you meant and I agree. As for the interview with Hubbell -- you could have walked across the room to adjust the thermostat and missed the whole thing.
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Post by inger on Jan 7, 2020 1:46:25 GMT -5
Going back to the 1927 team, and aging Bob Shawkey would end his MLB career that season with 195 wins by going 2-3 over 19 appearances. Yet he had a more profound effect on them than the numbers as he also served as the team’s pitching coach.
I wonder what he said to himself on the mound when he was a bit off his feed?...
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 7, 2020 5:14:12 GMT -5
Going back to the 1927 team, and aging Bob Shawkey would end his MLB career that season with 195 wins by going 2-3 over 19 appearances. Yet he had a more profound effect on them than the numbers as he also served as the team’s pitching coach. I wonder what he said to himself on the mound when he was a bit off his feed?... Remember when the Yankees made Whitey Ford their pitching coach late in his active career? Bob Shawkey started and won the first game ever played at Yankee Stadium. He also threw out the first ball at the renovated Yankee Stadium in 1976.
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Post by inger on Jan 7, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -5
Going back to the 1927 team, and aging Bob Shawkey would end his MLB career that season with 195 wins by going 2-3 over 19 appearances. Yet he had a more profound effect on them than the numbers as he also served as the team’s pitching coach. I wonder what he said to himself on the mound when he was a bit off his feed?... Remember when the Yankees made Whitey Ford their pitching coach late in his active career? Bob Shawkey started and won the first game ever played at Yankee Stadium. He also threw out the first ball at the renovated Yankee Stadium in 1976. Whitey Ford as pitching coach: You get this full set of cutlery for just $6.95. That’s right, you get the flesh-toned pinky ring, the belt buckle, the special shoe laces with titanium aglets, the stainless steel faux broken uniform buttons. But don’t stop there! You also get especially honed shin guards for each of your team’s three catchers! All in three easy patents of $2.32 per month. So, hurry you order in, even though I made millions of them. First 500 orders will also get a small vial of Gaylord Perry’s special “Hamburger Grease”, and a mustard jar full of my spit. You’ll never get another deal like this. NEVER!...
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 15, 2020 23:58:48 GMT -5
RIP Tony Fernandez. He had a nice career and will always be remembered in New York as the last Yankee SS before that Jeter kid took over the position.
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 16, 2020 1:17:08 GMT -5
RIP Tony Fernandez. He had a nice career and will always be remembered in New York as the last Yankee SS before that Jeter kid took over the position. Another gone way too young. A really solid player with the bat and the glove. I remember he held the bat very loosely, like it could drop from his hands any minute. He came up through the Blue Jays system when they were oozing with talent -- George Bell, Fred McGriff, Jesse Barfield, Lloyd Moseby, Kelly Gruber -- later traded with McGriff in a blockbuster that brought Joe Carter and Roberto Alomar from San Diego, then back to Toronto to help in their championship run in 1993. Looking at his baseballref page, I see had four separate stints with the Blue Jays and signed as a free agent on six different occasions. As Chi said, to Yankee fans he will always be the guy before Jeter. A really fun player to watch. RIP Tony Fernandez.
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