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Post by maizeyanks on Mar 13, 2020 11:52:29 GMT -5
Stay safe everyone, my school closed down after Wednesday - won't be back until April 6th (at the earliest for now.) Right decisions by all the sports leagues, was shocked The Big East let St johns and Creighton play the 1st half thursday afternoon - and other conference tournaments had teams warming up for the noon games. Very silly, should have been decided late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.
Wife was due to go back to work from her maternity leave this upcoming Monday in the city, thankfully she just got word they'll be WFH next week and moving forward. Let's all make reasonable decisions moving forward.
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Post by domeplease on Mar 13, 2020 12:00:04 GMT -5
The US faces a variety of problems that other industrialized nations don't 1) We actually have fewer doctors and respirators per person than Italy (not a rich country) 2)Much of our population can not afford health care and public health care for those that can not afford it are limited. People who can't afford it don't go to a doctor (that was me for much of my life). 3) A significant portion of the US political leadership does not believe there is a problem. So we have tested very few people and taken little action to restrict movement of those who could be sick. Much of the US population according to polls does not believe there is a problem. 4) The US federal government is too weak to take strong action against problems like this. People do not trust it, so they will ignore what it says (it lacks legitimacy). Agreed.
Plus more:
--We knew there was a high probability that we would be HIT by the Virus and basically did nothing. --Lack of Test Kit availability --Testing is the ONLY way to stop the Spread of the Virus (besides a Vaccine). --Our Hospital System is not set-up for a SURGE of Infected --Lack around 100,00 ICU Beds and probably at least 50,000- ventilators
SOUTH KOREA: --Figured it was likely Virus would hit them = Bio Tech Co. in less than two weeks invented A NEW Test Kit that gets results in 4-hours and produced enough for the necessary tests.
--Put into Place Drive-Thru Testing Centers = Never have to get out of car or mix with crowds
--CHINA: --Built TWO HOSPITALS = EACH in less than 12-days --Ensured that FOOD, MEDICAL SUPPLIES, ETC. continued to flowed into Quarantine Cities without hitches. --STOP/BAN all Large Groups early on.
***--03-13-20: www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/check-out-how-china-kept-its-supermarkets-stocked-as-virus-raged/ar-BB118vA8?li=BBnb7Kz Two months into the coronavirus epidemic in China, tens of millions of people are still under quarantine and much of the economy remains in a deep freeze. Yet China has largely succeeded in keeping its stores filled with food and other essentials—even in hard-hit places like the city of Wuhan—a crucial factor in maintaining public order throughout the crisis. To do that, China relied on mandates from central authorities against hoarding and profiteering. Private companies, including JD.com Inc. and Walmart Inc., rerouted trucks and located supplies that otherwise might not have made it to market. After Beijing called for an increase in face mask production, manufacturers canceled holidays for workers and jacked up wages to increase production of basic medical supplies. When Beijing issued orders against price gouging, companies looked for sudden price spikes and cut off guilty shopkeepers, or found ways to make more products available. Get news and analysis on politics, policy, national security and more, delivered right to your inbox Shopping app Pinduoduo Inc. got more farmers to use their online marketplaces, enabling them to sell more widely. By targeting soon-to-expire foods that might ordinarily have been thrown away by suppliers, Walmart was able to locate a massive batch of cucumbers in Yunnan province. Staff members worked through the night at a distribution center to test and sort the cucumbers for delivery to stores the next morning. “The only element of physical commerce that really stayed close to normal is the supermarket,” said Michael Norris, a Shanghai-based research and strategy manager at Agency China, a market research firm. “The supermarket has really been the lifeblood of the community during this event.” READ MORE… ***--03-13-20 IMPORTANT: www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-economic-team-grasps-for-credibility-with-outbreak/ar-BB116OxP?li=BBnbfcN
A DO ME/TEQUILA MESSAGE FOR YOU AMERICANS: This VIRUS is nothing to joke about or Tempt (by going to large crowd events)--please use your common sense & logic = Please be careful and think about the decisions you make = DO NOT BE STUPID.
***--03-13-20: www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-13/coronavirus-test-methods-are-as-divided-as-global-politics?srnd=premium …In the U.S., a top medical official acknowledged on Thursday that the slow roll-out of tests to track down early carriers, and so contain the spread of Covid-19 across a nation of 330 million, was a “failing” for a medical system that’s poorly designed for the task. “The idea of anyone getting it easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we’re not set up for that,” Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee. “Do I think we should be? Yes. But we’re not.”
Early, aggressive testing, shoe leather detective measures and so-called social distancing have been key to the success of countries such as Singapore, which have largely managed to prevent the spread of the virus into the wider population.
Tests there are free, the government developed a kit it says produces results in three hours at 99% accuracy, and even the police get involved in administering them at checkpoints. READ MORE…
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Post by kaybli on Mar 13, 2020 12:38:57 GMT -5
Stay safe everyone, my school closed down after Wednesday - won't be back until April 6th (at the earliest for now.) Right decisions by all the sports leagues, was shocked The Big East let St johns and Creighton play the 1st half thursday afternoon - and other conference tournaments had teams warming up for the noon games. Very silly, should have been decided late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning. Wife was due to go back to work from her maternity leave this upcoming Monday in the city, thankfully she just got word they'll be WFH next week and moving forward. Let's all make reasonable decisions moving forward. Thanks maize! Hope the little one is doing well! |
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Post by sierchio on Mar 13, 2020 12:57:09 GMT -5
Are you talking about the hospital that collapsed?? The one w/ the leaky roofs? This was predicted a few weeks ago... people would be praising China for "how well they dealt with the virus" when in fact, it is their fault it spread throughout the world...
We shouldn't be praising China...
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 13, 2020 12:59:16 GMT -5
Stay safe everyone, my school closed down after Wednesday - won't be back until April 6th (at the earliest for now.) Right decisions by all the sports leagues, was shocked The Big East let St johns and Creighton play the 1st half thursday afternoon - and other conference tournaments had teams warming up for the noon games. Very silly, should have been decided late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning. Wife was due to go back to work from her maternity leave this upcoming Monday in the city, thankfully she just got word they'll be WFH next week and moving forward. Let's all make reasonable decisions moving forward. It was nice to hear from you Maize, I hope all is well!!! |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 13, 2020 13:53:58 GMT -5
Fascinating and informative interview on infectious diseases, Coronavirus, vaccines, etc. Listened to that yesterday. Really interesting. The part about deer hunting was a weird tangent but also interesting anyway. Lyme disease carried by ticks which spread across states through the relocation of white tailed deer. The only reliable method for controlling the deer population is hunting. Pangolin, rats, mice, bats, monkeys, cows, birds....animal carriers of viruses that eventually make the jump to humans. |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 13, 2020 14:06:11 GMT -5
Are you talking about the hospital that collapsed?? The one w/ the leaky roofs? This was predicted a few weeks ago... people would be praising China for "how well they dealt with the virus" when in fact, it is their fault it spread throughout the world... We shouldn't be praising China... Yet, most of the world's vaccines are produced in China, while the United States continues to drop the ball on following through with the allocation of money for research and development to create and to stockpile vaccines. We are really good at continually creating and stockpiling Abrams tanks, even though the Army has told the Pentagon decades ago that they are no longer needed or useful for contemporary warfare. |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 13, 2020 14:36:19 GMT -5
Are you talking about the hospital that collapsed?? The one w/ the leaky roofs? This was predicted a few weeks ago... people would be praising China for "how well they dealt with the virus" when in fact, it is their fault it spread throughout the world... We shouldn't be praising China... I don’t buy that it is their fault it spread through the world. Otherwise it wouldn’t follow that closer countries like Taiwan Singapore and South Korea have managed this situation better than countries like Italy and the US have. China handled this poorly at first but the countries whose citizens are going to suffer the most are the ones whose governments have handled this the most poorly, like ours has. |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 13, 2020 14:44:23 GMT -5
“Anthony Fauci, the widely respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases whose reputation for honesty and integrity have been only enhanced during this crisis, admitted in congressional testimony that the United States is still not providing adequate testing for the coronavirus. “It is failing. Let’s admit it.” He added, “The idea of anybody getting [testing] easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we’re not set up for that. I think it should be, but we’re not."
We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials. (Doctors at the research project eventually decided to perform coronavirus tests without federal approval.)
But that’s not all. The president reportedly ignored early warnings of the severity of the virus and grew angry at a CDC official who in February warned that an outbreak was inevitable. The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics; we’re now paying the price for that. “We worked very well with that office,” Fauci told Congress. “It would be nice if the office was still there.”
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Post by sierchio on Mar 13, 2020 15:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by Renfield on Mar 13, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -5
“Anthony Fauci, the widely respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases whose reputation for honesty and integrity have been only enhanced during this crisis, admitted in congressional testimony that the United States is still not providing adequate testing for the coronavirus. “It is failing. Let’s admit it.” He added, “The idea of anybody getting [testing] easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we’re not set up for that. I think it should be, but we’re not." We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials. (Doctors at the research project eventually decided to perform coronavirus tests without federal approval.) But that’s not all. The president reportedly ignored early warnings of the severity of the virus and grew angry at a CDC official who in February warned that an outbreak was inevitable. The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics; we’re now paying the price for that. “We worked very well with that office,” Fauci told Congress. “It would be nice if the office was still there.” Read an interesting article a few days ago about this issue and how it illustrated the worst and best aspects of an authoritarian government. Said China, like most authoritarian governments, initially was quite secretive as such governments are, denied any problems and obfuscated about the issue (which, not surprisingly, allowed the growth of conspiracy theories about it's origin). Once it became well known and obvious that there was a possible epidemic on hand, then the government could take whatever measures they wanted without having to worry about any public blow back, trampling on property or human rights, getting building permits, ignoring red tape in approving treatment or testing measures, etc., because, well, they're an authoritarian government and don't have such restraints. So, basically, they let it get worse than it should have been to start with, but were able to move swiftly and decisively to curtail its spread once they got over whatever embarrassment it caused to the government. |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 13, 2020 18:42:26 GMT -5
The basic problem in the US is that our federal and state government is dysfunctional and we are in a low level civil war between factions. It makes effective action by the federal government impossible. Had the US government acted as the Chinese or Korean government did (it lacks the capacity to do so) people would have had fits.
Thank god for freedom.
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Post by sierchio on Mar 13, 2020 18:44:29 GMT -5
The basic problem in the US is that our federal and state government is dysfunctional and we are in a low level civil war between factions. It makes effective action by the federal government impossible. Had the US government acted as the Chinese or Korean government did (it lacks the capacity to do so) people would have had fits. Thank god for freedom. If the US government ever acts like the Chinese government, I'm heading to DoMe's in Mexico... |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 13, 2020 18:48:44 GMT -5
The basic problem in the US is that our federal and state government is dysfunctional and we are in a low level civil war between factions. It makes effective action by the federal government impossible. Had the US government acted as the Chinese or Korean government did (it lacks the capacity to do so) people would have had fits. Thank god for freedom. If the US government ever acts like the Chinese government, I'm heading to DoMe's in Mexico... To late Mexico is closing the border to halt the spread of the Virus there from the US  My real point is that after 70 years of 'draining the swamp' the federal government is incapable of taking any significant action other than wars or tax cuts. |
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Post by sierchio on Mar 13, 2020 19:04:05 GMT -5
As I don't want to stray into political discussion... Here's some MLB related news from MLB Trade Rumors
At least two clubs’ MLB rosters seem to be staying as a full group:
The Yankees players have unanimously voted to remain and keep training, per player rep Zack Britton (via George A. King III of the New York Post, on Twitter). GM Brian Cashman says he will remain as well, along with the coaching and training staff, Jack Curry of YES Network tweets.
All of the Padres’ MLB roster is staying in the area for now, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports on Twitter.
Others are largely dispersing …
The Cardinals, meanwhile, have decided to close camp for the most part, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports (Twitter links). Ten to fifteen St. Louis players will remain on hand for the time being.
It seems that’s more or less the approach of the Braves. MLB.com’s Mark Bowman tweets that multiple players have left the facility, some of whom hope to be able to train together in the Atlanta area.
Most clubs are in more of a wait-and-see stance for the time being, with many players leaning towards remaining …
The Nationals will meet as a team tomorrow, Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post reports on Twitter, with many planning to stick around.
It’s a similar situation for the Giants, per Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic (via Twitter).
Most Cubs players will remain in Arizona, at least until their leases run out at the end of the month, MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian tweets.
The Tigers are mostly staying put, Chris McCosky of the Detroit News reports on Twitter.
The Angels are still thinking through their options, Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times reports on Twitter.
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