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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2024 14:25:26 GMT -5
Yeah I wonder sometimes. There's enough engineering trickery to make things work. Although on the other hand I have to believe some of them can still pull it off. The worst I personally heard was Martha Reeves performing at a Hollywood block party in the late 90s. Martha and the Vandellas were one of my favorite Motown groups, but she was unrecognizably bad. But in general I'm usually favorably impressed with live performances of artists I enjoy. I saw The Temps a few years ago in Laughlin. Otis Williams the only original, in his 70's at the time...still sounded good. Otis was a founder of the group, but back in their heyday he got the least solo time. I'm pretty sure he didn't sing any lead vocals on their 60s-70s hits. Mostly of course Eddie Kendricks on the high parts and David Ruffin replaced by Dennis Edwards for the majority of hits. Paul Williams got a few, his best IMO "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin with the impossibly basso profundo parts. What a wonderful group they were. I almost tear up with nostalgia when I see some of those old clips. |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 21, 2024 14:28:20 GMT -5
I saw The Temps a few years ago in Laughlin. Otis Williams the only original, in his 70's at the time...still sounded good. Otis was a founder of the group, but back in their heyday he got the least solo time. I'm pretty sure he didn't sing any lead vocals on their 60s-70s hits. Mostly of course Eddie Kendricks on the high parts and David Ruffin replaced by Dennis Edwards for the majority of hits. Paul Williams got a few, his best IMO "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin with the impossibly basso profundo parts. What a wonderful group they were. I almost tear up with nostalgia when I see some of those old clips. David's brother Jimmy..."What Becomes of The Brokenhearted". Great song. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2024 14:32:39 GMT -5
Otis was a founder of the group, but back in their heyday he got the least solo time. I'm pretty sure he didn't sing any lead vocals on their 60s-70s hits. Mostly of course Eddie Kendricks on the high parts and David Ruffin replaced by Dennis Edwards for the majority of hits. Paul Williams got a few, his best IMO "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin with the impossibly basso profundo parts. What a wonderful group they were. I almost tear up with nostalgia when I see some of those old clips. David's brother Jimmy..."What Becomes of The Brokenhearted". Great song. Absolutely! He had another good one called "I've Passed This Way Before." |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 21, 2024 14:41:39 GMT -5
David's brother Jimmy..."What Becomes of The Brokenhearted". Great song. Absolutely! He had another good one called "I've Passed This Way Before." Are you familiar with Ronnie Dyson? "I Just Don't Want To Be Lonely". Beautiful...later covered by "Main Ingredient". Nowhere near the same feeling. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNC-QVnTYA |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2024 14:54:37 GMT -5
Absolutely! He had another good one called "I've Passed This Way Before." Are you familiar with Ronnie Dyson? "I Just Don't Want To Be Lonely". Beautiful...later covered by "Main Ingredient". Nowhere near the same feeling. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNC-QVnTYAI never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 21, 2024 15:03:08 GMT -5
Are you familiar with Ronnie Dyson? "I Just Don't Want To Be Lonely". Beautiful...later covered by "Main Ingredient". Nowhere near the same feeling. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNC-QVnTYAI never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. I don't remember them or the songs. But you reminded me of "Heaven Must've Sent You" (Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell). "Ain't No Mountain"...another great. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 21, 2024 15:43:59 GMT -5
I saw The Temps a few years ago in Laughlin. Otis Williams the only original, in his 70's at the time...still sounded good. Otis was a founder of the group, but back in their heyday he got the least solo time. I'm pretty sure he didn't sing any lead vocals on their 60s-70s hits. Mostly of course Eddie Kendricks on the high parts and David Ruffin replaced by Dennis Edwards for the majority of hits. Paul Williams got a few, his best IMO "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin with the impossibly basso profundo parts. What a wonderful group they were. I almost tear up with nostalgia when I see some of those old clips. There was a very good made for TV movie about the Temptations. Really heartbreaking how egos and substance abuse took it's toll over the years. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2024 15:44:03 GMT -5
I never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. I don't remember them or the songs. But you reminded me of "Heaven Must've Sent You" (Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell). "Ain't No Mountain"...another great. Yeah the Marvin/Tammi song is a different number. Another good one from them is "You're All I Need To Get By." And "Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing." |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 21, 2024 15:46:30 GMT -5
Otis was a founder of the group, but back in their heyday he got the least solo time. I'm pretty sure he didn't sing any lead vocals on their 60s-70s hits. Mostly of course Eddie Kendricks on the high parts and David Ruffin replaced by Dennis Edwards for the majority of hits. Paul Williams got a few, his best IMO "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin with the impossibly basso profundo parts. What a wonderful group they were. I almost tear up with nostalgia when I see some of those old clips. There was a very good made for TV movie about the Temptations. Really heartbreaking how egos and substance abuse took it's toll over the years. They brought a lot of happiness but weren't feeling it themselves. David Ruffin especially was a sad case. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 21, 2024 18:30:55 GMT -5
There is cottage industry of young people who give their reactions to songs that are typically from our music era. I find them amusing to watch as they will often start by saying somthing like I've never heard of the Beatles but let's give it a listen. The reactions are typically titled "First time hearing ....fill in the blank. Cara Mia was one of the songs I punched in recently and it's fun watching the reactions. Yeah I've seen a few of those. I'm mainly surprised that they even like the old stuff. I love watching some of those reactions. They often cannot believe that the singing is real and are amazed that the musicians use real instruments. After a while, some begin wondering what happened to music, and why everything they listen to now sounds the same. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 21, 2024 18:34:42 GMT -5
Are you familiar with Ronnie Dyson? "I Just Don't Want To Be Lonely". Beautiful...later covered by "Main Ingredient". Nowhere near the same feeling. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNC-QVnTYAI never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. I love that song..There's no exception to the rule...It may be factual, may be cruel |
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Post by Renfield on Oct 21, 2024 19:51:43 GMT -5
I never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. I love that song..There's no exception to the rule...It may be factual, may be cruel They never teach you that in school! Think the lead singer for the Main Ingredient was Cuba Gooding, Sr. |
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Post by topher0713 on Oct 21, 2024 20:41:06 GMT -5
I love that song..There's no exception to the rule...It may be factual, may be cruel They never teach you that in school! Think the lead singer for the Main Ingredient was Cuba Gooding, Sr. Their original singer was Donald McPherson who was also a great lead but died from Leukemia right after their first album Tasteful Soul. That record had the great songs... I'm Better Off Without You, Magic Shoes and I'm so Proud on it. I have DJ'd classic soul for the last 20 years and The MI are one of my all time favs. Magic Shoes was a roller skating fav back in the 70s. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 22, 2024 7:52:40 GMT -5
I never heard that version before Bob. I concur, more emotion in Dyson's take. The main song I remember from him was the album title on your link "Why Can't I Touch You" which was a big hit. Ronnie Dyson died quite young, about 40 years old. The song I associate most with The Main Ingredient of course is "Everybody Plays The Fool," the kind of cheerful early 70s pop-soul that I always fall for. Do you remember a relatively minor Motown group called The Elgins from the mid-60s? "Put Yourself In My Place" and "Darling Baby" and "Heaven Must Have Sent You" were their best-known songs although they are largely forgotten now. I saw them open for The Four Tops back in 1966. I really liked them. I love that song..There's no exception to the rule...It may be factual, may be cruel A feel-good song for sure Rizz. Another of those 70s soul songs with the mock-serious spoken intro "So you're heartbroken -- sitting around moping -- crying, crying -- you say you're even thinking about dying? Well before you do anything rash, dig this" Maybe not 100 percent accurate but close enough. "Have You Seen Her" by The Chi-Lites and "Kiss And Say Goodbye" by The Manhattans were two more with great spoken monologues. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 22, 2024 8:08:36 GMT -5
They never teach you that in school! Think the lead singer for the Main Ingredient was Cuba Gooding, Sr. Their original singer was Donald McPherson who was also a great lead but died from Leukemia right after their first album Tasteful Soul. That record had the great songs... I'm Better Off Without You, Magic Shoes and I'm so Proud on it. I have DJ'd classic soul for the last 20 years and The MI are one of my all time favs. Magic Shoes was a roller skating fav back in the 70s. Whoa, some serious Main Ingredient knowledge Topher. I haven't heard "Magic Shoes" in ages. As a lifelong fan of The Impressions it feels almost blasphemous to say it, but I think I prefer MI's beautifully orchestrated version of "I'm So Proud" to Curtis Mayfield's original. Classic Soul DJ? My man! I guess we all define Classic Soul in our own way, but do you have any of my old school Philly boys on your playlist? Delfonics, Intruders, Stylistics, Blue Magic, Harold Melvin? Are you familiar with The Ethics? Even further back Garnet Mimms, The Tymes, Solomon Burke? Those may be too prehistoric by now, but I had to ask. |
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