Post by sierchio on Feb 23, 2018 17:24:08 GMT -5
Funny that I posted this yesterday about JD/Stanton... on RiverAveBlues.com they did a mailbag and here's one of the questions:
Aryeh asks: Thoughts on a couple of articles out there comparing JD Martinez to Giancarlo as a hitter and the Red Sox are paying a lot less money?
Martinez and Giancarlo Stanton do have similar offensive numbers the last few seasons. Check it out:
Stanton in 2017: .281/.376/.631 (156 wRC+) and 59 HR in 692 PA
Martinez in 2017: .303/.376/.690 (166 wRC+) and 45 HR in 489 PA
Stanton from 2015-17: .265/.354/.580 (143 wRC+) and 113 HR in 1,480 PA
Martinez from 2015-17: .296/.363/.580 (147 wRC+) and 105 HR in 1,663 PA
Both guys have an injury history — Martinez has played more than 125 games in a season once in his career — and, of course, baserunning and defense matter. That’s why Stanton has the edge in both fWAR (+12.6 vs. +10.5) and bWAR (+13.7 vs. +10.9) over the last three years. Both ZiPS (+6.5 vs. +3.4) and Steamer (+5.8 vs. +2.4) give him the edge in 2018 as well.
Stanton is two years younger and the two players have identical $22M luxury tax hits. They are comparable as hitters. They are not comparable as overall players, especially when you consider the Yankees will get more peak years from Stanton than the Red Sox will get from Martinez. The “well actually, Martinez is just as good as Stanton” takes were inevitable as soon as Martinez signed with Boston, but Giancarlo is younger and clearly the better all-around player.
Aryeh asks: Thoughts on a couple of articles out there comparing JD Martinez to Giancarlo as a hitter and the Red Sox are paying a lot less money?
Martinez and Giancarlo Stanton do have similar offensive numbers the last few seasons. Check it out:
Stanton in 2017: .281/.376/.631 (156 wRC+) and 59 HR in 692 PA
Martinez in 2017: .303/.376/.690 (166 wRC+) and 45 HR in 489 PA
Stanton from 2015-17: .265/.354/.580 (143 wRC+) and 113 HR in 1,480 PA
Martinez from 2015-17: .296/.363/.580 (147 wRC+) and 105 HR in 1,663 PA
Both guys have an injury history — Martinez has played more than 125 games in a season once in his career — and, of course, baserunning and defense matter. That’s why Stanton has the edge in both fWAR (+12.6 vs. +10.5) and bWAR (+13.7 vs. +10.9) over the last three years. Both ZiPS (+6.5 vs. +3.4) and Steamer (+5.8 vs. +2.4) give him the edge in 2018 as well.
Stanton is two years younger and the two players have identical $22M luxury tax hits. They are comparable as hitters. They are not comparable as overall players, especially when you consider the Yankees will get more peak years from Stanton than the Red Sox will get from Martinez. The “well actually, Martinez is just as good as Stanton” takes were inevitable as soon as Martinez signed with Boston, but Giancarlo is younger and clearly the better all-around player.