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Post by pippsheadache on Apr 28, 2021 15:03:19 GMT -5
Bob Horner never played in the minors. It can be done. And this kid has his man strength already, not like skinny Robin Yount or A-Rod at 18... Bet he can hit .150 like Frazier, and maybe run into a fastball once a week... This isn’t 1978 inger. You don’t potentially ruin the kids development and start his clock prematurely for a short term fix. He needs to be handled properly. Obviously every player has a different development pace. But you don't have to go back to Robin Yount or even Junior Griffey to find examples of position players who started at age 19 and did well. Active guys would include Manny Machado, Bryce Harper and Juan Soto. It's more the exception than the rule, and every player is different, but it does happen. The two best 19-year-old position players I've seen are Soto and Tony Conigliaro. Both hit 56 home runs in their age 19 and 20 seasons. Soto had a bit higher OPS+ at 143 and 144, while Tony C was at 138 and 132. Conigliaro led the league in HRs with 32 in his age 20 season. Relative to his time he was a better home run hitter than Soto. But they were both eye-popping good at a very young age. The tragedy of Tony C is well- known. Hit in the eye by a Jack Hamilton fastball at age 22, terrible vision problems, then an unexpected comeback a few years later only to be derailed by life-threatening medical issues that killed him at a young age. He was one of the few Red Sox I always pulled for. Hopefully Soto will have a more normal career trajectory. |
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2021 15:26:34 GMT -5
This isn’t 1978 inger. You don’t potentially ruin the kids development and start his clock prematurely for a short term fix. He needs to be handled properly. Obviously every player has a different development pace. But you don't have to go back to Robin Yount or even Junior Griffey to find examples of position players who started at age 19 and did well. Active guys would include Manny Machado, Bryce Harper and Juan Soto. It's more the exception than the rule, and every player is different, but it does happen. The two best 19-year-old position players I've seen are Soto and Tony Conigliaro. Both hit 56 home runs in their age 19 and 20 seasons. Soto had a bit higher OPS+ at 143 and 144, while Tony C was at 138 and 132. Conigliaro led the league in HRs with 32 in his age 20 season. Relative to his time he was a better home run hitter than Soto. But they were both eye-popping good at a very young age. The tragedy of Tony C is well- known. Hit in the eye by a Jack Hamilton fastball at age 22, terrible vision problems, then an unexpected comeback a few years later only to be derailed by life-threatening medical issues that killed him at a young age. He was one of the few Red Sox I always pulled for. Hopefully Soto will have a more normal career trajectory.[/quote We continue this pussification of plays in our organization. Would Machado or Soto have been held back an extra year in the Yankees program? If so, what a shame... some of these guys are going to be good when their young, and have nothing left by the time they hit their expected mid to late primes. We have no idea why that sometimes happens, but it does... |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 28, 2021 15:51:49 GMT -5
This isn’t 1978 inger. You don’t potentially ruin the kids development and start his clock prematurely for a short term fix. He needs to be handled properly. Obviously every player has a different development pace. But you don't have to go back to Robin Yount or even Junior Griffey to find examples of position players who started at age 19 and did well. Active guys would include Manny Machado, Bryce Harper and Juan Soto. It's more the exception than the rule, and every player is different, but it does happen. The two best 19-year-old position players I've seen are Soto and Tony Conigliaro. Both hit 56 home runs in their age 19 and 20 seasons. Soto had a bit higher OPS+ at 143 and 144, while Tony C was at 138 and 132. Conigliaro led the league in HRs with 32 in his age 20 season. Relative to his time he was a better home run hitter than Soto. But they were both eye-popping good at a very young age. The tragedy of Tony C is well- known. Hit in the eye by a Jack Hamilton fastball at age 22, terrible vision problems, then an unexpected comeback a few years later only to be derailed by life-threatening medical issues that killed him at a young age. He was one of the few Red Sox I always pulled for. Hopefully Soto will have a more normal career trajectory. Machado (222 games in the minor leagues), Harper (139 games), and Soto (122 games) had at least two years of success at minor league ball before being called up. Dominguez has had zero at bats there. All I'm saying is to wait before he gets some success at lower levels before thinking about the majors. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Apr 28, 2021 15:54:38 GMT -5
Agree, Kaybli. No argument from me. Every case is different, and I have no idea if Dominguez is anywhere close to being ready.
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2021 17:19:17 GMT -5
All right. Give the lad at least two weeks of MiLB play first... I was just pulling chains. I felt so smart and important that I thought about telling you guys about my secret spy sessions that my elevator took me on and watched Dominguez hit shot after shot after shot off of Kershaw, whom had been paid to shut him down at a top secret NORAD workout site with just me, the elevator man, and my secret informer from ESPN that has many things he talks only with me about. That’s mostly because I’m such a great guy and was his select man when he was a boy in the neighborhood when the trash men kept it bright and shiny.
But now I’m not going to tell you any of that...
He likes to keep
His WM truck clean
It’s a clean
Machine
*lyrics and tune are the strict property of Waste Management, Inc. and TMarino Entertainment, LLC.
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Post by sierchio on Apr 28, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5
Fuck that... he's a Jason.. he spells it weird, but that's probably because he's ::checks notes:: a martian...
Jason's excel highly when throw into a fire... literal fires as well as figurative...
Fuck it, throw him into a fire... a figurative one.. A literal one, might be a crime..
"woaah oohh I've turned into a martian... ohh ohhh ohh.. can't even recall my name... ooohhh ohhh ohhh..."
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2021 17:24:09 GMT -5
Fuck that... he's a Jason.. he spells it weird, but that's probably because he's ::checks notes:: a martian... Jason's excel highly when throw into a fire... literal fires as well as figurative... Fuck it, throw him into a fire... a figurative one.. A literal one, might be a crime.. "woaah oohh I've turned into a martian... ohh ohhh ohh.. can't even recall my name... ooohhh ohhh ohhh..." Are you secretly Sam Kinison? ... |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 28, 2021 17:38:24 GMT -5
yes
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2021 17:39:55 GMT -5
How did you remember to answer me? ... |
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 28, 2021 18:00:31 GMT -5
Agree, Kaybli. No argument from me. Every case is different, and I have no idea if Dominguez is anywhere close to being ready. I don’t know, Pipps. Remember when Jay Bruce was hitting .800 in Spring Training? Inger is on record here at HeAmyHa, posting definitively that it wouldn’t last. He was spot on. There is more than air under Inger’s sombrero.  |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 28, 2021 18:22:10 GMT -5
How did you remember to answer me? ... Charlie told me |
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