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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 9, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -5
Desousa, do you have any thoughts on Beeter? Yanks seem hell bent on making him a SP, but I wonder if he's better suited for a BP role. |
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Post by Max on Jun 9, 2024 11:37:22 GMT -5
The most bothersome aspect of calling Rice up to play first base isn’t Rizzo. It’s whether or not Rice is a passable 1B. The Yanks left themselves far too vulnerable at this position this year, especially in light of Rizzo’s 2023 injury… But Hal can still afford to send one of his aides out to pick up his Starbucks for him…”And oh, get one for Brian, as well. Remind him it’s his turn to pay.”… Another thing is if Rice is promoted what player do the Yankees release? In my opinion, releasing Rizzo isn't an option because of his contract, and also because he's proven to be a good MLB player. Releasing Stanton also isn't an option because of his contract. I guess the Yankees can release Jones, but that would leave the Yankees with only 1 backup 3B,2B at a time where they seem not to be rushing DJ back into the everyday lineup.
Also, where would Rice get his regular at bats unless they send Wells to Triple A and have Rice share time at 1B and Catcher. I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening either.
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Post by cookback on Jun 9, 2024 11:42:39 GMT -5
I know Marinaccio has been discussed before here... He seems to be back in a groove...Time to replace one of the "spent" relievers ?
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 9, 2024 12:27:45 GMT -5
The most bothersome aspect of calling Rice up to play first base isn’t Rizzo. It’s whether or not Rice is a passable 1B. The Yanks left themselves far too vulnerable at this position this year, especially in light of Rizzo’s 2023 injury… But Hal can still afford to send one of his aides out to pick up his Starbucks for him…”And oh, get one for Brian, as well. Remind him it’s his turn to pay.”… Another thing is if Rice is promoted what player do the Yankees release? In my opinion, releasing Rizzo isn't an option because of his contract, and also because he's proven to be a good MLB player. Releasing Stanton also isn't an option because of his contract. I guess the Yankees can release Jones, but that would leave the Yankees with only 1 backup 3B,2B at a time where they seem not to be rushing DJ back into the everyday lineup.
Also, where would Rice get his regular at bats unless they send Wells to Triple A and have Rice share time at 1B and Catcher. I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening either.
Max, I hear you but I think at some point over the next couple seasons the Yankees are going to have to bite the bullet on at least one of the bad contracts. I know Hal doesn't like to eat money but at some point it needs to be about making the club better. |
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Post by inger on Jun 9, 2024 13:15:37 GMT -5
The most bothersome aspect of calling Rice up to play first base isn’t Rizzo. It’s whether or not Rice is a passable 1B. The Yanks left themselves far too vulnerable at this position this year, especially in light of Rizzo’s 2023 injury… But Hal can still afford to send one of his aides out to pick up his Starbucks for him…”And oh, get one for Brian, as well. Remind him it’s his turn to pay.”… Man where is Chris Gittens when we need him? After his foray in Japan (I have no idea how tgat worked out), the 30 year old Gittens is now in the Astros grip. Though ne shows up on their MiLB 7 day-IL he has posted no stats at this point this year… Btw : hilarious post! 😂 |
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Post by inger on Jun 9, 2024 13:20:59 GMT -5
The most bothersome aspect of calling Rice up to play first base isn’t Rizzo. It’s whether or not Rice is a passable 1B. The Yanks left themselves far too vulnerable at this position this year, especially in light of Rizzo’s 2023 injury… But Hal can still afford to send one of his aides out to pick up his Starbucks for him…”And oh, get one for Brian, as well. Remind him it’s his turn to pay.”… Another thing is if Rice is promoted what player do the Yankees release? In my opinion, releasing Rizzo isn't an option because of his contract, and also because he's proven to be a good MLB player. Releasing Stanton also isn't an option because of his contract. I guess the Yankees can release Jones, but that would leave the Yankees with only 1 backup 3B,2B at a time where they seem not to be rushing DJ back into the everyday lineup.
Also, where would Rice get his regular at bats unless they send Wells to Triple A and have Rice share time at 1B and Catcher. I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening either.
There would have to be a plan to put Rice at IB, likely with Rizzo as a late inning defender. We have the same issue squeezing Jasson Dominguez back onto the roster. At this point it might actually not be a bad idea to demote Wells until He finds his bat. But… how good is Rice defensively at this point. It looks like the Yanks will soon make a decision whether to ride chemistry or talent into the playoffs… |
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Post by qimqam on Jun 9, 2024 13:31:51 GMT -5
Another thing is if Rice is promoted what player do the Yankees release? In my opinion, releasing Rizzo isn't an option because of his contract, and also because he's proven to be a good MLB player. Releasing Stanton also isn't an option because of his contract. I guess the Yankees can release Jones, but that would leave the Yankees with only 1 backup 3B,2B at a time where they seem not to be rushing DJ back into the everyday lineup.
Also, where would Rice get his regular at bats unless they send Wells to Triple A and have Rice share time at 1B and Catcher. I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening either.
There would have to be a plan to put Rice at IB, likely with Rizzo as a late inning defender. We have the same issue squeezing Jasson Dominguez back onto the roster. At this point it might actually not be a bad idea to demote Wells until He finds his bat. But… how good is Rice defensively at this point. It looks like the Yanks will soon make a decision whether to ride chemistry or talent into the playoffs… I wouldnt demote Wells he's been having good abs most of the season and hasnt gotten many breaks ... Carry 3 catchers 2 LH bats, cross train them at 1B and C and DH them as well. Rizzo hasnt been winning or saving games with his glove or his bat this season, DJ is no better with his bat and stanton is bad all around. Time to move on ...give the Young Guys a chance You could have Wells, Rice and Trevino in the lineup at the same time abd injury to catcher wouldnt be an issue |
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Post by inger on Jun 9, 2024 13:33:42 GMT -5
There would have to be a plan to put Rice at IB, likely with Rizzo as a late inning defender. We have the same issue squeezing Jasson Dominguez back onto the roster. At this point it might actually not be a bad idea to demote Wells until He finds his bat. But… how good is Rice defensively at this point. It looks like the Yanks will soon make a decision whether to ride chemistry or talent into the playoffs… I wouldnt demote Wells he's been having good abs most of the season and hasnt gotten many breaks ... Carry 3 catchers To LH bats, cross train them at 1B and C and DH them as well. Rizzo hasnt been winning or saving games with his glove or his bat this season, DJ is no better with his bat and stanton is bad all around. Time to move on ...give the Young Guys a chance I like this, too… |
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Post by kaybli on Jun 9, 2024 15:08:34 GMT -5
The most bothersome aspect of calling Rice up to play first base isn’t Rizzo. It’s whether or not Rice is a passable 1B. The Yanks left themselves far too vulnerable at this position this year, especially in light of Rizzo’s 2023 injury… But Hal can still afford to send one of his aides out to pick up his Starbucks for him…”And oh, get one for Brian, as well. Remind him it’s his turn to pay.”… Man where is Chris Gittens when we need him?  |
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Post by nw on Jun 9, 2024 16:23:51 GMT -5
There would have to be a plan to put Rice at IB, likely with Rizzo as a late inning defender. We have the same issue squeezing Jasson Dominguez back onto the roster. At this point it might actually not be a bad idea to demote Wells until He finds his bat. But… how good is Rice defensively at this point. It looks like the Yanks will soon make a decision whether to ride chemistry or talent into the playoffs… I wouldnt demote Wells he's been having good abs most of the season and hasnt gotten many breaks ... Carry 3 catchers 2 LH bats, cross train them at 1B and C and DH them as well. Rizzo hasnt been winning or saving games with his glove or his bat this season, DJ is no better with his bat and stanton is bad all around. Time to move on ...give the Young Guys a chance You could have Wells, Rice and Trevino in the lineup at the same time abd injury to catcher wouldnt be an issue Everyone likes "giving the young guys a chance" but there's a reason why the A's, Pirates, and Royals are not perennial contenders. About 3/4 of the guys that are good performers at AAA don't make it in MLB. Rice is not on the 40 man roster, so he's likely not in the immediate plans (though there is currently a 40 man roster spot open with Santana gone; that spot will be filled by either Dominguez or Cole when they return from rehab). Rice was moved up to AAA for 2 reasons. First is major injury insurance. Second is 2025 planning. Unless they're ready to give up on Wells, you likely won't see Rice up until maybe September. Even then, Ramirez has a 40 man spot and would likely be the "3rd catcher" and could be a better compliment to Rizzo. |
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Post by desousa on Jun 9, 2024 17:42:45 GMT -5
Check out The Martian hitting another home run today. By the way, he had 4 hits today.
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Post by desousa on Jun 9, 2024 17:46:58 GMT -5
Desousa, do you have any thoughts on Beeter? Yanks seem hell bent on making him a SP, but I wonder if he's better suited for a BP role. 1955, I go back and forth. He has great stuff and I want him to be a starter, but he rarely goes more than 5 innings. He might be better suited to be a guy that can give you 2 or 3 all out innings. I think the Yankees want him to be a starter, but they may have to be a little more realistic. He's on the 7 Day DL and I don't know why. Last time out, he threw 4 innings, walking 5 and striking out 3. Yanks haven't said why he's on the DL since May 15. He'll probably has TJ surgery over the weekend. |
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Post by desousa on Jun 10, 2024 6:56:59 GMT -5
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Post by Max on Jun 10, 2024 13:24:57 GMT -5
Another thing is if Rice is promoted what player do the Yankees release? In my opinion, releasing Rizzo isn't an option because of his contract, and also because he's proven to be a good MLB player. Releasing Stanton also isn't an option because of his contract. I guess the Yankees can release Jones, but that would leave the Yankees with only 1 backup 3B,2B at a time where they seem not to be rushing DJ back into the everyday lineup.
Also, where would Rice get his regular at bats unless they send Wells to Triple A and have Rice share time at 1B and Catcher. I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening either.
Max, I hear you but I think at some point over the next couple seasons the Yankees are going to have to bite the bullet on at least one of the bad contracts. I know Hal doesn't like to eat money but at some point it needs to be about making the club better. Stanton's contract gets cheaper in 2026 and 2027 because the Marlins are paying (10 million) some of his salary (29 million, 25 million), don't know if that makes it easier for the Yankees to trade him or not. But the Yankees paying 90+ million of his contract is still a lot of money to eat.
I could be wrong, but right now I don't see the Yankees releasing Rizzo. Maybe they will release or trade him towards the end of the season if he's still not hitting. My guess is by then Rizzo's contract would be worth somewhere around 8 million.
Just want to make this clear, I am in favor of the Yankees promoting Marinaccio, Rice and Jasson. But I'm of the opinion that promoting those players is easier said than done.
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Post by Max on Jun 10, 2024 13:35:33 GMT -5
Max, I hear you but I think at some point over the next couple seasons the Yankees are going to have to bite the bullet on at least one of the bad contracts. I know Hal doesn't like to eat money but at some point it needs to be about making the club better. Stanton's contract gets cheaper in 2026 and 2027 because the Marlins are paying (10 million) some of his salary (29 million, 25 million), don't know if that makes it easier for the Yankees to trade him or not. But the Yankees paying an estimated 90+ million of his contract is still a lot of money to eat if the Yankees release him now.
I could be wrong, but right now I don't see the Yankees releasing Rizzo. Maybe they will release or trade him towards the end of the season if he's still not hitting. My guess is by then Rizzo's contract would be worth somewhere around 8 million.
Just want to make this clear, I am in favor of the Yankees promoting Marinaccio, Rice and Jasson. But I'm of the opinion that promoting those players is easier said than done.
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