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Post by desousa on Jul 7, 2024 11:25:32 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by Rumfield. Could he be Hal Morris-like at the plate with a better glove? I hope you are right but I cant help but think he is another product of the AAA strike zone ... He batted .228 in two seasons AA Last season in AA, he hit .219, but also 17 home runs. His highest seasonal total before that was 4, but he was a .250-.284 hitter. He's a better hitter when not trying to hit home runs. His lifetime fielding % at first is .992. |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 7, 2024 11:49:30 GMT -5
Maybe I heard wrong because I was distracted, but during Boone's post game interview I thought that heard something about in the future that maybe Rice getting some at bats as a Catcher. Anyone else hear that? I didn't nor could I find it. Given that Wells is hitting and that the Yankees never even floated the notion with guys like IKF or Voit, I'd be surprised. Not saying Rice will or wont catch but I think he should because it gives the team great flexibility ... There's a Big Difference between Rice vs Voit and IKF Rice was drafted as a catcher and was primarily a catcher in the Minors all 4 years and at every level. The other 2 occassionsally played catcher but it was never even close to their primary positions |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 7, 2024 12:07:45 GMT -5
I didn't nor could I find it. Given that Wells is hitting and that the Yankees never even floated the notion with guys like IKF or Voit, I'd be surprised. Not saying Rice will or wont catch but I think he should because it gives the team great flexibility ... There's a Big Difference between Rice vs Voit and IKF Rice was drafted as a catcher and was primarily a catcher in the Minors all 4 years and at every level. The other 2 occassionsally played catcher but it was never even close to their primary positions If it were me, I'd tell the kid to focus on learning 1B. That is your new position and one we hope you will fill for years to come. |
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Post by inger on Jul 7, 2024 12:30:29 GMT -5
DH Spencer Jones: 0-for-4, 3 K Last 3 games: 0-for-12, 1 BB, 11 K. This has spiked his K% to 37.2% Makes me sick when I hear he is untradeable He may now be untradeable because no one would want him… |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 7, 2024 12:38:14 GMT -5
DH Spencer Jones: 0-for-4, 3 K Last 3 games: 0-for-12, 1 BB, 11 K. This has spiked his K% to 37.2% Makes me sick when I hear he is untradeable He may now be untradeable because no one would want him… I have to keep reminding myself that most prospects don't have a big impact in the MLs. There is also a fine line between devloping players or trading them when their value is high. I don't have a problem trying to develop players with a high ceiling even if they don't get there. IMO, the reward is worth the risk. Jone's is certainly struggling this year but it's too soon to give up on him. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 12:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 13:19:15 GMT -5
He may now be untradeable because no one would want him… I have to keep reminding myself that most prospects don't have a big impact in the MLs. There is also a fine line between devloping players or trading them when their value is high. I don't have a problem trying to develop players with a high ceiling even if they don't get there. IMO, the reward is worth the risk. Jone's is certainly struggling this year but it's too soon to give up on him. Spencer Jones is a full two years younger than Ben Rice. Two years ago most fans would have been happy to trade Rice away for a bag of....rice. We know that few make it and very few make it big. But unless you want a roster that is old, slow and usually injured you got to have patience. |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 7, 2024 13:29:32 GMT -5
He may now be untradeable because no one would want him… I have to keep reminding myself that most prospects don't have a big impact in the MLs. There is also a fine line between devloping players or trading them when their value is high. I don't have a problem trying to develop players with a high ceiling even if they don't get there. IMO, the reward is worth the risk. Jone's is certainly struggling this year but it's too soon to give up on him. High K rate in the lMinors especially ath the lower level's is a huge red flag ... He may have a high ceiling but it's unlikely that he is all of a sudden going to start making even avg contact To me him and Arias are perfect trade prospects to get proven pitching. Lots of talent but poor contact ... These guys K rates are well above Florial's and we know how that worked out Contact is the single most important quality a hitter could have ... whether he is 5'6" or 6'6" Now ... I think Jones is the perfect candidate to thrive with the AAA pitching rules ... get him to AAA immediately to boost his trade stock and then pull the trigger |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 13:38:14 GMT -5
I didn't nor could I find it. Given that Wells is hitting and that the Yankees never even floated the notion with guys like IKF or Voit, I'd be surprised. Not saying Rice will or wont catch but I think he should because it gives the team great flexibility ... There's a Big Difference between Rice vs Voit and IKF Rice was drafted as a catcher and was primarily a catcher in the Minors all 4 years and at every level. The other 2 occassionsally played catcher but it was never even close to their primary positions 1) IKF had 600 innings of MLB experience at the position when the Yankees azquired him. 2) Rice had issues as a catcher in the minors. In 2023 he threw out 8 of the 70 baserunners on steal attempts. His arm doesn't seem to be MLB standards. Given the presence of Austin Wells, I doubt the Yankees have plans for Rice as a catcher unless as an emergency guy but that is just an opinion. |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 7, 2024 13:45:08 GMT -5
I have to keep reminding myself that most prospects don't have a big impact in the MLs. There is also a fine line between devloping players or trading them when their value is high. I don't have a problem trying to develop players with a high ceiling even if they don't get there. IMO, the reward is worth the risk. Jone's is certainly struggling this year but it's too soon to give up on him. Spencer Jones is a full two years younger than Ben Rice. Two years ago most fans would have been happy to trade Rice away for a bag of....rice. We know that few make it and very few make it big. But unless you want a roster that is old, slow and usually injured you got to have patience. Only in name, physical traits and draft capital ... Statistically it's not even close Jones A+ and AA - PAs 777 - 252 Ks (34% K Rate) - MiLB Carreer .267 .341 .442 .783 Rice Entire Minor Lague Career 926 PAs - 180 Ks (18% K Rate) MiLB Carreer .284 .397 .523 .920 (Rice has more HRs and RBIs than Jones in less PAs) |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 14:00:39 GMT -5
Spencer Jones is a full two years younger than Ben Rice. Two years ago most fans would have been happy to trade Rice away for a bag of....rice. We know that few make it and very few make it big. But unless you want a roster that is old, slow and usually injured you got to have patience. Only in name, physical traits and draft capital ... Statistically it's not even close Jones A+ and AA - PAs 777 - 252 Ks (34% K Rate) - MiLB Carreer .267 .341 .442 .783 Rice Entire Minor Lague Career 926 PAs - 180 Ks (18% K Rate) MiLB Carreer .284 .397 .523 .920 (Rice has more HRs and RBIs than Jones in less PAs) I am not trading either of them. I don't like trading left handed power. I pointed out that two years ago NO ONE saw Rice as an elite prospect. Patience. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 7, 2024 14:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by qimqam on Jul 7, 2024 14:26:15 GMT -5
Only in name, physical traits and draft capital ... Statistically it's not even close Jones A+ and AA - PAs 777 - 252 Ks (34% K Rate) - MiLB Carreer .267 .341 .442 .783 Rice Entire Minor Lague Career 926 PAs - 180 Ks (18% K Rate) MiLB Carreer .284 .397 .523 .920 (Rice has more HRs and RBIs than Jones in less PAs) I am not trading either of them. I don't like trading left handed power. I pointed out that two years ago NO ONE saw Rice as an elite prospect. Patience. He was only in the minors for 4 years including this year ... |
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Post by Max on Jul 7, 2024 14:29:22 GMT -5
It sounded to me that Boone didn't want to get too far ahead of himself. I just want to emphasize that I think I heard Boone say some at bats, he didn't sound like he even hinted that Rice would be the everyday Catcher. I wish that I could find Boone's quote, because I might have heard wrong. Max, this is the article you may have been referring to. I just deleted my reply to Chiyankee, right before I read your post. I didn't read what I thought Boone said, I heard it. But the quote is in the article you posted. Thanks 55. Now, I know for sure that I wasn't just hearing imaginary voices.  |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 7, 2024 15:46:22 GMT -5
Not saying Rice will or wont catch but I think he should because it gives the team great flexibility ... There's a Big Difference between Rice vs Voit and IKF Rice was drafted as a catcher and was primarily a catcher in the Minors all 4 years and at every level. The other 2 occassionsally played catcher but it was never even close to their primary positions 1) IKF had 600 innings of MLB experience at the position when the Yankees azquired him. 2) Rice had issues as a catcher in the minors. In 2023 he threw out 8 of the 70 baserunners on steal attempts. His arm doesn't seem to be MLB standards. Given the presence of Austin Wells, I doubt the Yankees have plans for Rice as a catcher unless as an emergency guy but that is just an opinion. I think it's great that Rice can be an option as a third catcher, because it gives the manager a lot of in-game options, but yeah, he's future is at first base. |
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