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Post by noetsi on Jun 28, 2021 21:31:58 GMT -5
Can we do what other teams do and start over... They were just 3 out only 4 days ago... How many good teams do we have winning records against? I don't think they are going to win this year with an offense this inept. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 28, 2021 21:54:25 GMT -5
They were just 3 out only 4 days ago... How many good teams do we have winning records against? I don't think they are going to win this year with an offense this inept. If you read my post yesterday they only have a losing record against teams in their own division (except the Orioles) + the Phillies. They have winning records against: CHW, CLE, HOU, KCR, MIN, OAK, TEX, WSH multiple of those teams are in first place or close to it.. They are 3-3 vs Detroit, but I think thats cause they basically checked out that series because of the week they had coming ahead. Also 1-1 vs ATL. Boston and Tampa don't have winning records against Houston, Oak, or CHW. The problem is the division play. 5-8 vs Tampa 0-5 vs Boston 6-6 vs Toronto 6-4 vs Baltimore Whats crazy here is if you subtract the head to head records the Yankees are playing vs each of the top 3 teams the Yankees about the same record as these teams. Tampa is 39-26 against everyone else. Yankees 35-28. Boston is 41-31 against everyone else. Yankees 40-31. Toronto is 33-30 against everyone else. Yankees 34-30. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 28, 2021 22:01:10 GMT -5
KC, MN, TX don't have winning records. WSH is .500 We played most of the other teams you mentioned very few games.
We are barely above .500 and won't be long the way we are playing.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 28, 2021 22:02:48 GMT -5
KC, MN, TX don't have winning records. WSH is .500 We played most of the other teams you mentioned very few games. We are barely above .500 and won't be long the way we are playing. Did you read that Boston or Tampa don't have winning records against CHW, HOU, or OAK. Anyway that King interview is kinda distrubing. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 28, 2021 22:05:45 GMT -5
KC, MN, TX don't have winning records. WSH is .500 We played most of the other teams you mentioned very few games. We are barely above .500 and won't be long the way we are playing. Did you read that Boston or Tampa don't have winning records against CHW, HOU, or OAK. Anyway that King interview is kinda distrubing. I am sure you are familiar with the term small sample size. Playing a team three times does not tell you much about how good a team you are. If we have winning records against them at the end of the season that will be impressive. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 28, 2021 22:15:43 GMT -5
KC, MN, TX don't have winning records. WSH is .500 We played most of the other teams you mentioned very few games. We are barely above .500 and won't be long the way we are playing. Did you read that Boston or Tampa don't have winning records against CHW, HOU, or OAK. Anyway that King interview is kinda distrubing. What was disturbing about the King interview (I didn’t see it)? |
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Post by Renfield on Jun 28, 2021 22:17:17 GMT -5
I remember they interviewed Thames a couple weeks ago and his response was they are instructed to hit the ball hard, well maybe thats not the best advice.. We do neither. Hit the ball or hit it hard. Maybe they should cocentrate on just making solid contact instead of swinging as hard as they can at every pitch. Of course, they have no plate discipline either. Bad combo. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 28, 2021 23:03:48 GMT -5
Did you read that Boston or Tampa don't have winning records against CHW, HOU, or OAK. Anyway that King interview is kinda distrubing. I am sure you are familiar with the term small sample size. Playing a team three times does not tell you much about how good a team you are. If we have winning records against them at the end of the season that will be impressive. They won't be playing any team outside of their division more than 7 times total... |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 28, 2021 23:04:16 GMT -5
Did you read that Boston or Tampa don't have winning records against CHW, HOU, or OAK. Anyway that King interview is kinda distrubing. What was disturbing about the King interview (I didn’t see it)? Admitted he was trying to use cutesy pitches instead of efficient ones |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 28, 2021 23:19:53 GMT -5
I am sure you are familiar with the term small sample size. Playing a team three times does not tell you much about how good a team you are. If we have winning records against them at the end of the season that will be impressive. They won't be playing any team outside of their division more than 7 times total... I agree, but that is not my point. Deciding how good you are relative to another team based on 3 games is difficult. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 28, 2021 23:34:48 GMT -5
They won't be playing any team outside of their division more than 7 times total... I agree, but that is not my point. Deciding how good you are relative to another team based on 3 games is difficult. If we go by that flawed logic no games outside the division matter because some teams you don't play more than 3 games a year. |
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Post by inger on Jun 28, 2021 23:55:12 GMT -5
I agree, but that is not my point. Deciding how good you are relative to another team based on 3 games is difficult. If we go by that flawed logic no games outside the division matter because some teams you don't play more than 3 games a year. A collection of small samples becomes a larger and more acceptable sample. It’s unimportant how you played one team for three games, but when you’re looking at total out of division games the sample is no longer small, and therefore more meaningful. Russ amazes me in that he works with numbers all of the time, yet the logic of numbers tends to escape him. He’s obviously very good with the numbers themselves… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 29, 2021 0:01:28 GMT -5
If we go by that flawed logic no games outside the division matter because some teams you don't play more than 3 games a year. A collection of small samples becomes a larger and more acceptable sample. It’s unimportant how you played one team for three games, but when you’re looking at total out of division games the sample is no longer small, and therefore more meaningful. Russ amazes me in that he works with numbers all of the time, yet the logic of numbers tends to escape him. He’s obviously very good with the numbers themselves… Right in the older days before interlegue some teams would get played 10+ times a year, but that number has gone way down since then. Point I made yesterday is if you take away the Yankees head to head record against each of Tampa, Boston, and Toronto they would all be about 1 game difference at most. Therefore the standings difference has been the Yankees inability to beat those teams. |
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Post by inger on Jun 29, 2021 0:13:16 GMT -5
A collection of small samples becomes a larger and more acceptable sample. It’s unimportant how you played one team for three games, but when you’re looking at total out of division games the sample is no longer small, and therefore more meaningful. Russ amazes me in that he works with numbers all of the time, yet the logic of numbers tends to escape him. He’s obviously very good with the numbers themselves… Right in the older days before interlegue some teams would get played 10+ times a year, but that number has gone way down since then. Point I made yesterday is if you take away the Yankees head to head record against each of Tampa, Boston, and Toronto they would all be about 1 game difference at most. Therefore the standings difference has been the Yankees inability to beat those teams. Absolutely true. What’s worse is that within those three teams you also have a respectable sample size and the Yankees have looked horrible in comparison to them when on the same field. That gives little hope that we’re going to play better against them in the remaining games. It can happen. We’ve seen the ‘69 Mets. We’ve seen the ‘78 Yankees. But if we do come back it’s going to mean that we have a special team. I haven’t seen any evidence of that whatsoever… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 29, 2021 0:24:48 GMT -5
Right in the older days before interlegue some teams would get played 10+ times a year, but that number has gone way down since then. Point I made yesterday is if you take away the Yankees head to head record against each of Tampa, Boston, and Toronto they would all be about 1 game difference at most. Therefore the standings difference has been the Yankees inability to beat those teams. Absolutely true. What’s worse is that within those three teams you also have a respectable sample size and the Yankees have looked horrible in comparison to them when on the same field. That gives little hope that we’re going to play better against them in the remaining games. It can happen. We’ve seen the ‘69 Mets. We’ve seen the ‘78 Yankees. But if we do come back it’s going to mean that we have a special team. I haven’t seen any evidence of that whatsoever… I can't disagree with that statement at this point, because they have played 10 or more games against most of those teams. |
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