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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 6, 2021 6:57:41 GMT -5
The Yankees have now equaled their 11 season World Series drought of 1965-1975. That is second only to the 14 season dry spell from 82-95.The big difference is front office people got fired for those messes. Ugh, my entire Jr high, high school and college years. They had some good hitting teams for most of those seasons, but the starting pitching came up short. Yep, great hitters like Mattingly and Winfield and Henderson, but too reliant on the likes of Dennis Rasmussen and Rick Rhoden and Walt Terrell and Dave LaPointe. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 6, 2021 9:48:47 GMT -5
Sign Cory Seager to play SS. See if Rizzo will come back on a short term deal. Who knows what they'll do with Hicks? He's going to hard to trade him. Get rid of Sanchez and find a good defensive catcher to tandem with Higgy. The left-handed Seager would seem the right move, balancing a right-handed heavy lineup and fewer dollars than Carlos Correa. My only concern is his injury history. For me, Hicks is a fourth outfielder - always was and will be. He’s a fine athlete playing baseball. The contract he has is ridiculous, and Florial is better defensively and has more speed and upside. If I’m Cashman, I want to trade Hicks and Voit : both too oft injured and neither can hit left handed (yes, I know Hicks is a switch hitter, nevertheless…). |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 6, 2021 10:07:47 GMT -5
I like Rizzo… a lot. But, he’s another player on the wrong side of his career with more frequent aches and pains each year due to a chronically bad back. Likely his last true payday, too. If the Yankees pick up a shortstop, Torres must play second, which moves LeMahieu to first. Rizzo also is a reverse splits guy, hitting lefties significantly better than righties, which doesn’t bode well for LeMahieu as an everyday utility guy or a normal routine to sit Rizzo.
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Post by desousa on Oct 6, 2021 10:34:06 GMT -5
I don't think they'll sign a big time SS to a long term contract. I also don't think they'll sign Rizzo. Yanks are serious about getting the payroll way down.
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Post by bearman on Oct 6, 2021 10:37:47 GMT -5
My first wish(es) would be to never see Gallo, Odor and Nevin in a Yankee uniform again. I like Rizzo but to give him anything other than a short term deal would, in my opinion, be foolish. I also believe some team will give him a contract for more than he is worth. The Yankees need more speed and less whiffing. Seager has a very low strikeout rate but he doesn't steal bases at all. The situation with Sanchez to me is the biggest challenge. There is nothing much available in free agency and the longer the season went the more it seemed to me Higgy struggled at the plate. I am afraid we are stuck with Sanchez another year. We seem to have some excellent prospects in the pipeline. The Yankees won't do it but maybe it would be best to bite the bullet for a year and hope that they will be ready in 2023. I just don't want to see there chance of promotion blocked by some of our current players. Is there any chance Peraza would be ready for the majors next year? Apparently he can hit but can he field well enough to play SS in the Majors?
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Post by inger on Oct 6, 2021 13:24:18 GMT -5
The Yankees have now equaled their 11 season World Series drought of 1965-1975. That is second only to the 14 season dry spell from 82-95. The big difference is front office people got fired for those messes. I don't count pre-Ruthian teams in that calculation. They were as Archaeopterix to Bald Eagles. Articles of Confederation to Constitution. Bill Haley to Elvis. Shadowy prototypes of looming grandeur. Did I just witness a comet? … |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 6, 2021 13:38:39 GMT -5
The Yankees have now equaled their 11 season World Series drought of 1965-1975. That is second only to the 14 season dry spell from 82-95. The big difference is front office people got fired for those messes. I don't count pre-Ruthian teams in that calculation. They were as Archaeopterix to Bald Eagles. Articles of Confederation to Constitution. Bill Haley to Elvis. Shadowy prototypes of looming grandeur. Did I just witness a comet? … Hah. I'm just glad someone recognized the name! |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 6, 2021 14:10:37 GMT -5
Did I just witness a comet? … Hah. I'm just glad someone recognized the name! .jpg) Difficult to believe, he was the same age as my father, both born in 1925. My father was strictly a ball-room dancer type, who listened to Country and Western music on the radio. According to my siblings, my mother was a Big Band music lover….Glenn Miller, Guy Lombardo. I do recall one of my brothers telling me that my dad liked Sam Cooke. Probably more in line with the crooner type of songs, I suspect. One of my weirdest memories was seeing my father wearing a leisure suit in the 1970s. He should have stuck to gabardine, neck ties, and fedora. |
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Post by inger on Oct 6, 2021 14:22:35 GMT -5
Hah. I'm just glad someone recognized the name! Difficult to believe, he was the same age as my father, both born in 1925. My father was strictly a ball-room dancer type, who listened to Country and Western music on the radio. According to my siblings, my mother was a Big Band music lover….Glenn Miller, Guy Lombardo. I do recall one of my brothers telling me that my dad liked Sam Cooke. Probably more in line with the crooner type of songs, I suspect. One of my weirdest memories was seeing my father wearing a leisure suit in the 1970s. He should have stuck to gabardine, neck ties, and fedora. Me dad and mum was born in 1917, and 1922. (please read that in a British accent so my grammar doesn’t appear to be bad. They weren’t British in any way). The years do get away from us, don’t they?… I really don’t know what my dad listened to, having but scant knowledge of his life. My mom liked 40’s stuff and called it the music that would never die. Real music, not like that modern stuff, that rock and roll… that was not going to last… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 6, 2021 15:08:41 GMT -5
Difficult to believe, he was the same age as my father, both born in 1925. My father was strictly a ball-room dancer type, who listened to Country and Western music on the radio. According to my siblings, my mother was a Big Band music lover….Glenn Miller, Guy Lombardo. I do recall one of my brothers telling me that my dad liked Sam Cooke. Probably more in line with the crooner type of songs, I suspect. One of my weirdest memories was seeing my father wearing a leisure suit in the 1970s. He should have stuck to gabardine, neck ties, and fedora. Me dad and mum was born in 1917, and 1922. (please read that in a British accent so my grammar doesn’t appear to be bad. They weren’t British in any way). The years do get away from us, don’t they?… I really don’t know what my dad listened to, having but scant knowledge of his life. My mom liked 40’s stuff and called it the music that would never die. Real music, not like that modern stuff, that rock and roll… that was not going to last… I know this should be in the music thread, so I will just do a hit and run here. Bill Haley got his music start in the Philly area. His style was more Western Swing than Rock and Roll, but his band was definitely a transitional force of great influence. His former home in Boothwyn PA was up for sale a few years ago. It is a typically 50s ranch home on maybe one acre. I think he called it Melody House. My brother and I actually looked into buying it and turning it into a museum, but the finances just weren't making it feasible. There were still a few original Comets alive then, some performing in local venues. Just outside Philly there is a joint called the T-Bar where Haley played many times in the 1950s. The owners have kept the acoustic tiles in the ceiling where Haley's bassist made holes from tossing his upright bass in the air. If you watch old clips of those guys, they were amazing showmen, especially the bassist and sax player Rudy Pompilo. That blazing guitar lead in "Rock Around The Clock," recorded in 1954, was easily a dozen years ahead of its time. Count Hendrix and Page among its devotees. The guy who played it was a Philly boy named Danny Cedrone. He had actually played the identical lead on a 1952 recording with Haley called "Rock The Joint." That song never went anywhere, so Cedrone just repeated it for "Clock." The rest of the story: Danny got $21 for his part of the recording session. A few months later, just before the song was released, he fell down some stairs in his home and died. He was just in his early twenties. His replacement with the Comets, Franny Beecher, was pretty good, but couldn't exactly replicate Danny's lead. It was close enough that the average fan didn't notice, but he clearly did not have the blinding fretboard facility of Danny Cedrone. Phew, that's really TMI. There's your Bill Haley lesson for today, class. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 6, 2021 15:17:57 GMT -5
Difficult to believe, he was the same age as my father, both born in 1925. My father was strictly a ball-room dancer type, who listened to Country and Western music on the radio. According to my siblings, my mother was a Big Band music lover….Glenn Miller, Guy Lombardo. I do recall one of my brothers telling me that my dad liked Sam Cooke. Probably more in line with the crooner type of songs, I suspect. One of my weirdest memories was seeing my father wearing a leisure suit in the 1970s. He should have stuck to gabardine, neck ties, and fedora. Me dad and mum was born in 1917, and 1922. (please read that in a British accent so my grammar doesn’t appear to be bad. They weren’t British in any way). The years do get away from us, don’t they?… I really don’t know what my dad listened to, having but scant knowledge of his life. My mom liked 40’s stuff and called it the music that would never die. Real music, not like that modern stuff, that rock and roll… that was not going to last… I read it like Ollie and Sven…Ingerson just doesn’t lend itself to sound British. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 8, 2021 10:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Oct 8, 2021 10:24:21 GMT -5
Me dad and mum was born in 1917, and 1922. (please read that in a British accent so my grammar doesn’t appear to be bad. They weren’t British in any way). The years do get away from us, don’t they?… I really don’t know what my dad listened to, having but scant knowledge of his life. My mom liked 40’s stuff and called it the music that would never die. Real music, not like that modern stuff, that rock and roll… that was not going to last… I know this should be in the music thread, so I will just do a hit and run here. Bill Haley got his music start in the Philly area. His style was more Western Swing than Rock and Roll, but his band was definitely a transitional force of great influence. His former home in Boothwyn PA was up for sale a few years ago. It is a typically 50s ranch home on maybe one acre. I think he called it Melody House. My brother and I actually looked into buying it and turning it into a museum, but the finances just weren't making it feasible. There were still a few original Comets alive then, some performing in local venues. Just outside Philly there is a joint called the T-Bar where Haley played many times in the 1950s. The owners have kept the acoustic tiles in the ceiling where Haley's bassist made holes from tossing his upright bass in the air. If you watch old clips of those guys, they were amazing showmen, especially the bassist and sax player Rudy Pompilo. That blazing guitar lead in "Rock Around The Clock," recorded in 1954, was easily a dozen years ahead of its time. Count Hendrix and Page among its devotees. The guy who played it was a Philly boy named Danny Cedrone. He had actually played the identical lead on a 1952 recording with Haley called "Rock The Joint." That song never went anywhere, so Cedrone just repeated it for "Clock." The rest of the story: Danny got $21 for his part of the recording session. A few months later, just before the song was released, he fell down some stairs in his home and died. He was just in his early twenties. His replacement with the Comets, Franny Beecher, was pretty good, but couldn't exactly replicate Danny's lead. It was close enough that the average fan didn't notice, but he clearly did not have the blinding fretboard facility of Danny Cedrone. Phew, that's really TMI. There's your Bill Haley lesson for today, class. Well, I’m playing catch up here. Somehow I missed all of this yesterday. Definitely stuff I never knew. I didn’t spend too much time in Boothwyn, I was the back up man in that sales district. It was a district that had a lot of trouble keeping sales people. Whenever someone would quit there, it would be added to my workload on an interim basis. The same was true of Wilmington. I was also their off and in interim sales guy. I never minded, I was able to slip in there and tear up a few extra commissions. I just had to be careful, because they’d try to dump some crap work on me, too. Anyway, I guess I probably drove by the rancher and the holes in the ceiling without a clue. How much richer would my life have been if I had this information twenty years ago? Why have you been holding all of this back on me? …😂 |
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Post by inger on Oct 8, 2021 10:26:29 GMT -5
Me dad and mum was born in 1917, and 1922. (please read that in a British accent so my grammar doesn’t appear to be bad. They weren’t British in any way). The years do get away from us, don’t they?… I really don’t know what my dad listened to, having but scant knowledge of his life. My mom liked 40’s stuff and called it the music that would never die. Real music, not like that modern stuff, that rock and roll… that was not going to last… I read it like Ollie and Sven…Ingerson just doesn’t lend itself to sound British. Yeah. It just came off as bad grammar. No more British for me. From now on I’m going to try to pass myself off as Australian, mate… |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 8, 2021 13:00:05 GMT -5
Taking a deep breath to ponder construction of the 2022 New York Yankees, it is my suspicion little shall change with the pitching staff. Cole shall be expected to lead the stable of arms with Jameson Taillon and Jordan Montgomery penciled in behind him. Being that both Taillon and Monty shall be another year away from their respective injuries and surgeries with a full, regular season in between, one would hope the training wheels are taken off in terms of innings restrictions and pampering. Put another way, please let these guys work out of trouble in the fourth and fifth innings.
German and Nestor and Sevy and King shall be good competition for the final two rotation spots. I am leaving out Kluber because he shall likely want more money and more years than his previous one-year deal. In actuality, I wouldn't mind resigning him, if he would take a reasonable one or two-year deal. I know his injury history, but more than anyone else on this staff, he knows how to pitch and I would wager a two-dollar bill that he has another good season in him. Even as rusty as he was to begin the season, in 80 innings he allowed fewer than a hit per inning and just a bit more than a strikeout per inning. His no hitter was wonderful to watch a craftsman at work. Also, do not forget about Luis Gil, who was only throttled by the Yankees' fear of him being throttled apparently. I can see him being pulled up if needed, as a starter or as a reliever, should we lose a key man to injury.
I doubt we shall see more than one addition to the bullpen, as I believe the Yankees like what they finished with overall. Other than the split nail, a bout with COVID, and the little over a month where he lost his mechanics, Chapman was healthy and effective. From August to October, Chapman struck out 32 in 18 and 2/3rd innings and allowed only 1 run in his last 10 appearances. Loaisiga has moved into the fireman's role of seventh or eighth set-up man to shut down a rally by the opposition. With Green and Holmes, the fact that Britton will be paid to rehab next season won't hurt a bit. Wandy and Luetge have proven better than the likes of Jonathan Holder and even Luis Cessa. Add in German or Gil or Nestor or King from the rotation competition and the bullpen is a definitive strength, even without a free agent signing. Also, I really liked the kid Ridings. Hopefully, he can be healthy and build on a decent Cup of Joe last season. And, Abreu acquitted himself well for the most part last season with nothing wrong with his arm.
I would be remiss if I did not mention Clarke Schmidt, whom I have never been as high on as the pundits and the Yankees. I always preferred Michael King to him. In short, there is lots to like about the depth in the bullpen and the starting rotation, even without replacing Kluber or Britton, which the Yankees shall more than likely try to do.
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