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Post by kaybli on Oct 25, 2021 11:45:45 GMT -5
Ronald Blum of the Associated Press reports that Major League Baseball is "almost certain" to have a work stoppage when the current CBA expires on December 2. As Blum writes it, the players and owners have been negotiating dating back to last spring, but there just hasn't been enough momentum to suggest that a new deal will be reached by the time the current five-year contract expires. There are simply too many issues to be worked out, including the players' cut of the pie, as well as service time considerations, tanking teams, and other factors. At minimum, a work stoppage will put a freeze on the free agent market (and result in the cancelation of the Winter Meetings), but it could also delay the start of spring training. Hopefully it won't actually delay the start of the 2022 MLB season, but time will tell. MLB hasn't had a work stoppage since 1994-1995. It would be potentially devastating to the sport to see it happen once again, especially with concerns about reaching younger fans.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 25, 2021 11:52:03 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship.
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Post by domeplease on Oct 25, 2021 12:30:03 GMT -5
The Owners for the most part are making $$$ Hand over Fist.
And most Owners are $$$ Pri..s. Not all, but most. Look how they treated their Minor League players for years...plus so much more.
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2021 12:31:57 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship. Not unexpected, yet I still always think it won’t happen until it actually does happen. The shame of 1994 for me was that was the year I decided that I was dedicating too much time to baseball and no longer cared to watch any game in which the Yanks were not playing. I used to be able to speak much more strongly about how our players stacked up vs. our opposition, because I watch just about everything I could, and read even more. It would seem as though if all these issues exist that the owners and the players would want to start checking off some of the boxes now, but it also seems as though they all want a vacation. I guess we’ll wait until the last minute, freeze everything and then wonder why attendance drops next season. Maybe we should all take up pickle ball…
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 25, 2021 18:10:29 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship. I would hope that both sides would have learned their lesson by now and remember what happened last time there was a stoppage. Then again, who am I kidding, they haven't learned a thing!
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 25, 2021 18:18:48 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship. I would hope that both sides would have learned their lesson by now and remember what happened last time there was a stoppage. Then again, who am I kidding, they haven't learned a thing! Yep. As soon as a few years pass, everything goes back to square one.
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2021 19:51:19 GMT -5
As long as the money keeps flowing, no one learns anything. When attendance hits the crapper, when TV viewership drops to the point that ad revenues reduce and those TV contracts become less desirable, then they’ll learn. Then it will be too late…
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 25, 2021 20:35:13 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship. No steroids and human growth hormone this time to start multiple assaults on a 37 year old home run record.
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2021 21:19:51 GMT -5
Yes, baseball has used up much of its reservoir of public goodwill. A prolonged work stoppage next year would be brutal. But this was not unexpected. Always brinkmanship. No steroids and human growth hormone this time to start multiple assaults on a 37 year old home run record. Instead we have sticky stuff, .190 hitters with 35 HR. Most K’s per inning pitched. Reduced contact, reduced base stealing, more balks. Pussified rules, Manfred men in extra innings…
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2021 21:22:14 GMT -5
I would hope that both sides would have learned their lesson by now and remember what happened last time there was a stoppage. Then again, who am I kidding, they haven't learned a thing! Yep. As soon as a few years pass, everything goes back to square one. It’s like playing CandyLand and trying to get through GumDrop Pass… Or chutes and ladders and trying get past the… hey, wait a minute. They were the same game, weren’t they? 🤯…
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Post by noetsi on Oct 26, 2021 21:42:56 GMT -5
As long as the money keeps flowing, no one learns anything. When attendance hits the crapper, when TV viewership drops to the point that ad revenues reduce and those TV contracts become less desirable, then they’ll learn. Then it will be too late… amen
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2021 13:59:31 GMT -5
As long as the money keeps flowing, no one learns anything. When attendance hits the crapper, when TV viewership drops to the point that ad revenues reduce and those TV contracts become less desirable, then they’ll learn. Then it will be too late… amen Now I know what it’s like to be a preacher…
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Post by kaybli on Oct 27, 2021 14:01:02 GMT -5
Now I know what it’s like to be a preacher…
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2021 14:04:31 GMT -5
Now I know what it’s like to be a preacher… And, ladies and gentlemen, remember that if you don’t believe in the great pumpkin there will be no candy in your bag. No nuts in your bag. Oops, this is starting to go sideways on me now people…
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Post by noetsi on Oct 27, 2021 17:38:18 GMT -5
The owners will survive without the players. The later don't have a revenue stream and don't understand they need public support. They are in for hard lessons in economics. And union negotiations for that matter. They were successful in a different economic reality.
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