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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2021 18:42:06 GMT -5
The owners will survive without the players. The later don't have a revenue stream and don't understand they need public support. They are in for hard lessons in economics. And union negotiations for that matter. They were successful in a different economic reality. I can think of nothing more thrilling than attending the ball park on a day with no game. A nice seat in the broiling sunshine. Vendors peddling $25 sandwiches and $9.00 beer. Rest rooms available. No ball game to interrupt the conversations in the stands. Yes. Those owners. They could come out and give speeches. Maybe even play a softball game among themselves. Fire up that Jumbotron to get the wave started or a rousing “Yankees Suck” chant. At the appropriate time we coukd open All 30 stadia and pretend every team made the World Series. Hand out trophies to all. Think the TV contract could be honored by letting us all watch the non-games to see what team was the most creative in providing entertainment. The Jumbotron could show reruns, or maybe broadcast Fox News. This is going to be great!… |
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Post by noetsi on Oct 27, 2021 21:21:45 GMT -5
the owners are wealthy. They can outlast the players
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2021 21:50:59 GMT -5
the owners are wealthy. They can outlast the players The players aren’t exactly in the poor house, either…I’d almost celebrate a lost season at this point. Let them kill the sport once and for all, and I’ll go about the rest of my life without the distraction of baseball… |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 27, 2021 22:19:34 GMT -5
the owners are wealthy. They can outlast the players The players aren’t exactly in the poor house, either…I’d almost celebrate a lost season at this point. Let them kill the sport once and for all, and I’ll go about the rest of my life without the distraction of baseball…  |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 27, 2021 23:16:57 GMT -5
the owners are wealthy. They can outlast the players The players aren’t exactly in the poor house, either…I’d almost celebrate a lost season at this point. Let them kill the sport once and for all, and I’ll go about the rest of my life without the distraction of baseball…  Inger, following elimination of the distraction of baseball. |
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2021 23:21:43 GMT -5
The players aren’t exactly in the poor house, either…I’d almost celebrate a lost season at this point. Let them kill the sport once and for all, and I’ll go about the rest of my life without the distraction of baseball… Damn straight. Me and Clint. What a team. He can probably still whip my ass… I was just telling somebody today that I never liked crowds, but it’s worse now than it used to be. In my younger days I showed restraint. If somebody jostled Ruthie in a crowd ten years ago I’d step in between them and her. Now, I’d step over and slap them on the back of the head. First punches are more important when you get older… |
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Post by noetsi on Oct 28, 2021 18:45:24 GMT -5
I think they need to go to a percent of revenue rather than free agency.
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Post by inger on Oct 28, 2021 20:31:38 GMT -5
I think they need to go to a percent of revenue rather than free agency. Not the worst idea, but if I’m the players I suddenly become much more interested in who’s keeping the books and what is categorized how. Also, the greedy side of the players becomes concerned about losing money if revenues drop. They get a guaranteed salary now vs. what would interpret as a commission. A difficult transition for salespeople sometimes, too… |
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Post by noetsi on Nov 3, 2021 22:44:33 GMT -5
They would have to agree to have public books. Somehow other sports manage.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 30, 2021 5:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Nov 30, 2021 16:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 30, 2021 18:59:52 GMT -5
The clowns that run MLB just can't stop hurting the sport.  |
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Post by inger on Nov 30, 2021 19:15:47 GMT -5
Assholes. I’m not at all surprised… I wouldn’t be surprised if the souped up one was handed to Green and Chapman a time or two in crucial moments… Or maybe it was the slicker of the two, so hanging sliders, etc… |
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Post by kaybli on Dec 1, 2021 13:46:49 GMT -5
Major League Baseball, players' union no closer to deal with collective bargaining agreement set to expire, sources say
A day of negotiating brought Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association no closer to a new collective bargaining agreement, according to sources familiar with the talks. The sides met in Irving, Texas, on Tuesday, one day before the current agreement is set to expire at 11:59 p.m. ET Wednesday. Though the sides have tweaked their proposals in recent days, the core economic issues are still the major roadblock to a new deal. The players want free agency at 29.5 years of age if they've achieved five years of service time, or simply after six years of service time, whichever comes first. They would also prefer the arbitration process to begin after two seasons instead of three. Owners won't agree to such a massive overhaul of the system, according to a person familiar with the league's thinking. Both free agency after six years and arbitration after three seasons have been tenets of the economic process in baseball for decades. On Tuesday, players added potential revenue-generating ideas, such as allowing advertising patches on jerseys and a 12-team postseason, to their offer. But they also asked for the luxury tax threshold to be raised to $240 million. It was $210 million last season. To accommodate the playoff grid in a 12-team postseason, the union offered up each league realigning to two divisions, one with eight teams and one with seven. The league wasn't moved by any of the proposals, which still include changes to free agency, arbitration and revenue sharing among the clubs. Last week, the league tweaked its own offer, adding an NBA-style draft lottery to its proposal as well as the elimination of draft pick compensation. Previously, the league proposed a 14-team postseason while agreeing to free agency for all players at 29.5 years old. It also offered to eliminate arbitration and instead use a formula -- FWAR in this case -- to determine salaries for players who normally would be eligible for arbitration. The impasse is likely to lead the owners to lock out the players at midnight Wednesday. It's not a mandatory move, as the sides can keep negotiating under the old CBA rules if they desire, but the league insists it's the best route to instill a sense of urgency in the process. The owners don't want a lockout viewed as punitive but just part of the process. The players won't lose paychecks until the start of the regular season, so they might view the lockout as less risky than an in-season work stoppage would be. If a stoppage occurs, there will be no contact between teams and free agents or players on their 40-man rosters. In fact, team personnel aren't allowed to speak publicly about players as it pertains to their game on the field or in any manner. The sides will meet again Wednesday with less than 24 hours until the old CBA expires.
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Post by inger on Dec 1, 2021 14:38:27 GMT -5
Sad. Sickening. Disappointing. Non-mandatory lockout being imposed in a non-punitive manner? I call that trying to polish a turd. They don’t shine, no matter what…
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