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Post by kaybli on Feb 12, 2022 19:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on Feb 12, 2022 20:06:13 GMT -5
MLBPA “Unimpressed” By MLB’s Latest Offer In CBA Negotiations
This was a JOKE and a complete waste of time!!!
If I was the head of the MLBPA I would inform the MLB that we will not be back to the Table until the MLB is really serious about presenting/settling a plan that is viable...not the BS we have seen recently
IF NOT:
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 12, 2022 20:28:38 GMT -5
Posturing, when negotiations are meant to be performed in "good faith." Owners have probably determined the cost savings to prorated salaries with a shortened Spring Training and season, ignoring the loss of fan support and a decrease in attendance over time. No doubt the price of streaming and baseball packages shall be passed on to the consumer to adjust profit margins. So disheartening and simply leaches color from what was once vibrant and fun. National Pastime, indeed. When the perception and goal of being right usurps the fundamental philosophy of doing right. |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 13, 2022 15:56:53 GMT -5
Player Valuation Trends Remain At Issue In CBA Negotiations
...Sawchik tackles the current imbalance between production and pay, the changing demographics of the player populous, and the role that analytics has played in shaping the game’s financial landscape. I urge you to read Sawchik’s full analysis, but below are a couple of passages from Sawchik’s article that frame the current debate.
For starters, player careers have declined. Sawchik writes, “The average service time of MLB players was 4.79 years in 2003 and fell to 3.71 years in 2019, according to MLBPA data from last year.” It’s no coincidence that players become eligible for their first arbitration raise after three years of service time.
Careers are closing in on players from both sides. Sawchik provides the following data: “…the share of position players aged 30-plus declined from 40.4% of all hitters in 2004 to 29.9% this past season.
Of all players to step on an MLB field in 2019, 63.2% had less than three years of service time. Careers are also starting later. The average debut age of 25.6 years this season was up from 2011 (24.6 years) and 2001 (24.5), according to Baseball Reference.”
Not only are there less players in their thirties than in the past, but younger players are debuting at older ages than usual. What this amounts to is owners taking advantages of players’ few prime years between the ages 25 and 30, thereby avoiding the growing pains of youth and at the same time forestalling free agency until players are on the tail end of their athletic peaks.
Excepting where those superstar players are concerned, teams can then feel comfortable replacing those players with the next wave of cheap, young players entering their primes.
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2022 17:45:40 GMT -5
Player Valuation Trends Remain At Issue In CBA Negotiations
...Sawchik tackles the current imbalance between production and pay, the changing demographics of the player populous, and the role that analytics has played in shaping the game’s financial landscape. I urge you to read Sawchik’s full analysis, but below are a couple of passages from Sawchik’s article that frame the current debate.
For starters, player careers have declined. Sawchik writes, “The average service time of MLB players was 4.79 years in 2003 and fell to 3.71 years in 2019, according to MLBPA data from last year.” It’s no coincidence that players become eligible for their first arbitration raise after three years of service time.
Careers are closing in on players from both sides. Sawchik provides the following data: “…the share of position players aged 30-plus declined from 40.4% of all hitters in 2004 to 29.9% this past season.
Of all players to step on an MLB field in 2019, 63.2% had less than three years of service time. Careers are also starting later. The average debut age of 25.6 years this season was up from 2011 (24.6 years) and 2001 (24.5), according to Baseball Reference.”
Not only are there less players in their thirties than in the past, but younger players are debuting at older ages than usual. What this amounts to is owners taking advantages of players’ few prime years between the ages 25 and 30, thereby avoiding the growing pains of youth and at the same time forestalling free agency until players are on the tail end of their athletic peaks.
Excepting where those superstar players are concerned, teams can then feel comfortable replacing those players with the next wave of cheap, young players entering their primes.
I think it’s brilliant that younger players are debuting older. Yikes! Time travel is run amok in baseball… This was predictable when the last deal was struck… |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 14, 2022 18:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 14, 2022 21:02:10 GMT -5
Those owners, they just keep giving and giving.  |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 15, 2022 12:15:34 GMT -5
VERY STUPID!!! These are your Prospects that you will either call up or trade for vetern players--they are valueable and now they want to reduce their numbers; besides NOT paying them for ST
MLB’s CBA Proposal Included Ability To Reduce Number Of Available Minor League Roster Spots; MLBPA Planning To Reject
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Post by inger on Feb 15, 2022 13:04:05 GMT -5
Those owners, they just keep giving and giving.  Killing themselves softly… |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 15, 2022 22:08:11 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 15, 2022 22:23:13 GMT -5
Pitchers and catchers should have reported today.  One would hope that as professionals they would start working out on their own… it’s so little to ask of them… |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 16, 2022 17:29:53 GMT -5
You remember baseball, right? You know, the game that used to be considered our national pastime until football and other, more popular/exciting sports, zoomed past it and left the sport constantly trying to figure out its future?
Well, baseball was supposed to start yesterday, with pitchers and catchers of various teams checking in to spring training in Florida and Arizona and then doing those drills where they cover first base, in case they forgot how to do that in the winter.
All 30 teams were supposed to have players report to camp today.
But baseball didn’t start yesterday because MLB remains in a lockout, with the greedy, billionaire owners trying their best to make more money while making sure the players don’t get their way because god forbid the guys who play the game can get a little more pull in their sport.
What’s worse for baseball is that nobody really noticed it was supposed to start yesterday. The only thing worse than being ignored is being forgotten, which is something that keeps happening to baseball and will continue to do so as long as this work stoppage continues.
The person to blame for all of this is MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, who has proven many times over that he doesn’t love the game as much as the boss of baseball should. He’s allowing this stoppage to go on simply because he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to bring the two sides together and work out a deal that’s best for everyone involved.
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Post by inger on Feb 16, 2022 17:51:22 GMT -5
You remember baseball, right? You know, the game that used to be considered our national pastime until football and other, more popular/exciting sports, zoomed past it and left the sport constantly trying to figure out its future?
Well, baseball was supposed to start yesterday, with pitchers and catchers of various teams checking in to spring training in Florida and Arizona and then doing those drills where they cover first base, in case they forgot how to do that in the winter.
All 30 teams were supposed to have players report to camp today.
But baseball didn’t start yesterday because MLB remains in a lockout, with the greedy, billionaire owners trying their best to make more money while making sure the players don’t get their way because god forbid the guys who play the game can get a little more pull in their sport.
What’s worse for baseball is that nobody really noticed it was supposed to start yesterday. The only thing worse than being ignored is being forgotten, which is something that keeps happening to baseball and will continue to do so as long as this work stoppage continues.
The person to blame for all of this is MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, who has proven many times over that he doesn’t love the game as much as the boss of baseball should. He’s allowing this stoppage to go on simply because he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to bring the two sides together and work out a deal that’s best for everyone involved.
Calling bullshit. The lack of start was mentioned on this very forum, and the mention drew commentary. Using this forum as a poll source, I would estimate that at least 180 million Americans noticed. Most cared greatly… Bit it’s true that many will care less as the days and weeks go on. One sure way to go out of business, any business, is to stop making and selling the product long enough for people to find a suitable replacement. If only these people realized they’re non-necessities. They’re not food, water, air, medical personnel. Maybe they’ll wake up when no one does care… |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 16, 2022 18:10:08 GMT -5
You remember baseball, right? You know, the game that used to be considered our national pastime until football and other, more popular/exciting sports, zoomed past it and left the sport constantly trying to figure out its future?
Well, baseball was supposed to start yesterday, with pitchers and catchers of various teams checking in to spring training in Florida and Arizona and then doing those drills where they cover first base, in case they forgot how to do that in the winter.
All 30 teams were supposed to have players report to camp today.
But baseball didn’t start yesterday because MLB remains in a lockout, with the greedy, billionaire owners trying their best to make more money while making sure the players don’t get their way because god forbid the guys who play the game can get a little more pull in their sport.
What’s worse for baseball is that nobody really noticed it was supposed to start yesterday. The only thing worse than being ignored is being forgotten, which is something that keeps happening to baseball and will continue to do so as long as this work stoppage continues.
The person to blame for all of this is MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, who has proven many times over that he doesn’t love the game as much as the boss of baseball should. He’s allowing this stoppage to go on simply because he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to bring the two sides together and work out a deal that’s best for everyone involved.
Calling bullshit. The lack of start was mentioned on this very forum, and the mention drew commentary. Using this forum as a poll source, I would estimate that at least 180 million Americans noticed. Most cared greatly… Bit it’s true that many will care less as the days and weeks go on. One sure way to go out of business, any business, is to stop making and selling the product long enough for people to find a suitable replacement. If only these people realized they’re non-necessities. They’re not food, water, air, medical personnel. Maybe they’ll wake up when no one does care… We need to give the fans/consumers something to replace MLB ASAP...
I think that should be what you recommended MLPB = Major League PARROT Baseball.
Inger, I will make you Commisoner of MLPB.
AND I will OWN ALL the teams.
Tequila will be the First FA in this new sport and is currently asking for 350 Millions Seeds/Nuts over 13-years.
I think we might be onto something here???!!!
Inger I am sure that you will avoid a Parrots/Owners Shutdown in the future.
Good Luck Commish -- MAKE ME SOME $$$...
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Post by inger on Feb 16, 2022 18:35:50 GMT -5
Calling bullshit. The lack of start was mentioned on this very forum, and the mention drew commentary. Using this forum as a poll source, I would estimate that at least 180 million Americans noticed. Most cared greatly… Bit it’s true that many will care less as the days and weeks go on. One sure way to go out of business, any business, is to stop making and selling the product long enough for people to find a suitable replacement. If only these people realized they’re non-necessities. They’re not food, water, air, medical personnel. Maybe they’ll wake up when no one does care… We need to give the fans/consumers something to replace MLB ASAP...
I think that should be what you recommended MLPB = Major League PARROT Baseball.
Inger, I will make you Commisoner of MLPB.
AND I will OWN ALL the teams.
Tequila will be the First FA in this new sport and is currently asking for 350 Millions Seeds/Nuts over 13-years.
I think we might be onto something here???!!!
Inger I am sure that you will avoid a Parrots/Owners Shutdown in the future.
Good Luck Commish -- MAKE ME SOME $$$...
Edward Encarnacion says he’ll consider being the head of marketing for us. Pete the Pirate is asking for a treasury position of high ranking. I’m not feeling gooey about that one. The bird from the old Groucho Marx show is a bit thread bare, but he wants to start a fan club. I don’t see any harm. He’s not a parrot, but I’ve never seen him give away more than $100 at a time. Damned Pirates are raising hell about mascot rights infringement. Redbeard? He’s dead, don’t worry about his ass. Captain Crunch offering to add Tequila to the cover of the box, big they want her to go blond and raise her wings to show… you know… |
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