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Post by Renfield on Mar 14, 2022 7:36:59 GMT -5
I agree with those who say there is probably another shoe or two to drop with this deal. I am so glad to be done with The Sanchino that it almost obscures the rest of the trade. Like I said when the Yanks rid themselves of Sonny Gray, I don't care how well he does someplace else, he wasn't doing it in New York, so good luck and God bless. We all love Gio -- how could you not? He was for sure one of my favorites. And nobody ever called Josh Donaldson a ray of sunshine. But looking even at just last season, Donaldson played in 135 games to Gio's 116. Donaldson had an OBP of .352 to Gio's .301. An OPS+ of 127 to Gio's 96. Twenty-six home runs to Gio's 14. Defensively he's at least as good as Urshela. Obviously his age and salary are an issue, but just based on last year's performance the Yanks would have been better off with Donaldson at third than with Gio. I'm not saying Josh Donaldson is the answer to a prayer, but barring the unforeseen it's not a disaster either. And maybe the fact that Hal is throwing money out there is a sign that he's been goaded by that guy in Queens to pry open his wallet, let a few of the moths fly out, and start spending some dough. Thanks for laying out some of the potential positives pipps! Plus a gold glove ss. I'll step back from the ledge now and see what happens.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 7:39:14 GMT -5
The guy who comes out worst in all of this is Sonny Gray. Just when he thought he was safe, he has Sanchez as his catcher again. You know he didn't sleep last night.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 7:49:49 GMT -5
I agree with those who say there is probably another shoe or two to drop with this deal. I am so glad to be done with The Sanchino that it almost obscures the rest of the trade. Like I said when the Yanks rid themselves of Sonny Gray, I don't care how well he does someplace else, he wasn't doing it in New York, so good luck and God bless. We all love Gio -- how could you not? He was for sure one of my favorites. And nobody ever called Josh Donaldson a ray of sunshine. But looking even at just last season, Donaldson played in 135 games to Gio's 116. Donaldson had an OBP of .352 to Gio's .301. An OPS+ of 127 to Gio's 96. Twenty-six home runs to Gio's 14. Defensively he's at least as good as Urshela. Obviously his age and salary are an issue, but just based on last year's performance the Yanks would have been better off with Donaldson at third than with Gio. I'm not saying Josh Donaldson is the answer to a prayer, but barring the unforeseen it's not a disaster either. And maybe the fact that Hal is throwing money out there is a sign that he's been goaded by that guy in Queens to pry open his wallet, let a few of the moths fly out, and start spending some dough. Thanks for posting a positive take on the trade pipps. I'm afraid we're going to be missing Sanchez's bat (99 OPS+, .730 OPS last year) when we watch a full season of Higgy/Rortvedt. I don't think anyone will miss Gary's defense. I'm also scared that the Yanks don't make another move after this one except maybe sign Rizzo. That would be a mistake and very underwhelming. Still waiting for that Oakland trade like Waiting for Godot.
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Post by acuraman on Mar 14, 2022 8:33:25 GMT -5
Maybe Gleybar going to Oakland is the next move for Olson.
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 8:33:47 GMT -5
A note on Rizzo. When he joined the team last season healthy he provided a spark. Before he got ill he was all we could have asked for.
If Rizzo is the answer at 1st base, I think we could certainly do worse.
I don’t think we’re looking at the final catching roster. Our acquisition, whom I still haven’t learned to spell yet is possibly ticketed to the minors. His bat is skinny, so I’m assuming he has fat defensive skills. He also could be more Higgy’s back up than platoon mate.
Higgy could benefit from more playing time. There’s a lot of HR pop in that bat. He works well with the pitching staff… it just may be Higgy Time. Time for him to break out…
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Post by acuraman on Mar 14, 2022 8:53:56 GMT -5
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Post by acuraman on Mar 14, 2022 8:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by acuraman on Mar 14, 2022 9:00:05 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 9:14:32 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 9:35:47 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Mar 14, 2022 9:39:50 GMT -5
Maybe Gleybar going to Oakland is the next move for Olson. I feel like it's just going to be Rizzo and or Voit instead. Which is not terrible but they really degraded at catcher now and I don't think they will upgrade that. Higgy prob could get 10-15 hr over a whole season but Sanchez even through the struggles def had potential of double that. Andujar still is on this team Yankees really must not think much of him to take on 50 mil of often injured Donaldson instead. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 14, 2022 10:02:39 GMT -5
I agree with those who say there is probably another shoe or two to drop with this deal. I am so glad to be done with The Sanchino that it almost obscures the rest of the trade. Like I said when the Yanks rid themselves of Sonny Gray, I don't care how well he does someplace else, he wasn't doing it in New York, so good luck and God bless. We all love Gio -- how could you not? He was for sure one of my favorites. And nobody ever called Josh Donaldson a ray of sunshine. But looking even at just last season, Donaldson played in 135 games to Gio's 116. Donaldson had an OBP of .352 to Gio's .301. An OPS+ of 127 to Gio's 96. Twenty-six home runs to Gio's 14. Defensively he's at least as good as Urshela. Obviously his age and salary are an issue, but just based on last year's performance the Yanks would have been better off with Donaldson at third than with Gio. I'm not saying Josh Donaldson is the answer to a prayer, but barring the unforeseen it's not a disaster either. And maybe the fact that Hal is throwing money out there is a sign that he's been goaded by that guy in Queens to pry open his wallet, let a few of the moths fly out, and start spending some dough. Thanks for posting a positive take on the trade pipps. I'm afraid we're going to be missing Sanchez's bat (99 OPS+, .730 OPS last year) when we watch a full season of Higgy/Rortvedt. I don't think anyone will miss Gary's defense. I'm also scared that the Yanks don't make another move after this one except maybe sign Rizzo. That would be a mistake and very underwhelming. Still waiting for that Oakland trade like Waiting for Godot. Remember, Sandwich 🥪 had one good month last season, the only reason his OPS is above .700. That one month just isn’t worth the uninspiring defense, which no longer features a high rate of throwing out base runners. I’ll take Higgy’s defense and hope regular playing time pushes up his numbers offensively.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 14, 2022 10:04:07 GMT -5
Nothing says this is just a job like the look on the face of Josh Donaldson. Ugh, I miss Urshela already.
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 10:07:55 GMT -5
None of them hit at .280 from the links I looked at. Donaldson hit .246 and is on the down end of his career if he can even play, the catcher under .200, I think the SS hit .271 Two of the three can't hit for average at all. The third you see as having potential, I only know what he has actually done. Well besides being on three teams in a week .280 = good hitter .271 = can’t hit at all Missed it by THAT much, Chief … Ignoring that you chose 1 of the 3 people we traded for, I am not sure where the .271 came from. None of the threads I saw on this trade used that number.
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 10:09:27 GMT -5
I agree with those who say there is probably another shoe or two to drop with this deal. I am so glad to be done with The Sanchino that it almost obscures the rest of the trade. Like I said when the Yanks rid themselves of Sonny Gray, I don't care how well he does someplace else, he wasn't doing it in New York, so good luck and God bless. We all love Gio -- how could you not? He was for sure one of my favorites. And nobody ever called Josh Donaldson a ray of sunshine. But looking even at just last season, Donaldson played in 135 games to Gio's 116. Donaldson had an OBP of .352 to Gio's .301. An OPS+ of 127 to Gio's 96. Twenty-six home runs to Gio's 14. Defensively he's at least as good as Urshela. Obviously his age and salary are an issue, but just based on last year's performance the Yanks would have been better off with Donaldson at third than with Gio. I'm not saying Josh Donaldson is the answer to a prayer, but barring the unforeseen it's not a disaster either. And maybe the fact that Hal is throwing money out there is a sign that he's been goaded by that guy in Queens to pry open his wallet, let a few of the moths fly out, and start spending some dough. Thanks for laying out some of the potential positives pipps! Plus a gold glove ss. I'll step back from the ledge now and see what happens. I think he was a GG at 3b not SS.
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