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Post by noetsi on Mar 13, 2022 23:13:48 GMT -5
This probably explains the logic of the trade.
The fact that none of the guys in question can hit to save their life does not matter I guess. Hitting, for average, simply does not enter into the calculations the Yankees use. At all.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 13, 2022 23:14:26 GMT -5
We just went over the cap for old ass Donaldson. But a lot less than had we bid on a decent free agent and only for 2 years. True. I would have rather signed Story or Freeman. And still waiting on that big Oakland trade. |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2022 23:14:48 GMT -5
We would need to pay Donaldson if we trade him. Make him a reverse Odor. Instead of being free to us, give him to someone else for free… a dangerous bat when healthy, just seldom healthy… So we trade for Donaldson just to take on his 50 million and then flip him while keeping his contract? Are you on that ambien again inger?  Oh, thanks. I haven’t taken it yet, but it’s time… |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2022 23:25:11 GMT -5
But a lot less than had we bid on a decent free agent and only for 2 years. True. I would have rather signed Story or Freeman. And still waiting on that big Oakland trade. Those things are still possible, especially the Freeman deal. So let’s just say that if Donaldson is here to stay, he still plays a strong 3B, he hit 26 HR last year, and he still takes his walks. If healthy, he’s a nice bat and a former MVP that wants to win. That’s the most positive outlook I can give on his grouchy, mouthy ass… |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 13, 2022 23:37:22 GMT -5
I think the most positive spin on this trade is: 1) The yankees decided to stress defense over hitting and have no considered hitting for average important in a really long time. He won a golden glove at 3b and apparently can catch. Donaldson was simply a two year rental to get two defensive players. Given his injuries he may never play. www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33497638/sources-new-york-yankees-finalizing-deal-acquire-josh-donaldson-isiah-kiner-falefa-minnesota-twins2) They expect their minor leagues to bail them out. And have largely abandoned the free agency market. It has worked for some teams, but the Yankees have little experience with it and I doubt they can make it work. I don't think this is the real reason they are doing this. I think they believe they will make the same amount of money with a mediocre teams as an elite one. And the Cole and Stanton contracts will kill them for years to come. lol |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 13, 2022 23:43:00 GMT -5
Only in NY would trading for two guys who can't hit, and may not be on the team in three years be a block buster trade  It could be a a great trade for MN if Urshela and Sanchez can reach their potential. |
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Post by inger on Mar 13, 2022 23:50:34 GMT -5
Only in NY would trading for two guys who can't hit, and may not be on the team in three years be a block buster trade It could be a a great trade for MN if Urshela and Sanchez can reach their potential. Do you actually think at all before you type this stuff? Alfalfa-Hay hits about like the hitters you’ve been demanding we acquire for years. Yep. Contact. Potential .280, below average power. and he’s fast, athletic. Donaldson doesn’t hit the way you prefer. He’s about a .240 hitter at this stage of his career, but he hit 26 HR last year and he takes plenty of walks.he also finds the gaps in the outfield for XBH. We have no idea at this point how consequential the young alphabet soup catcher will be. He may wind up festering in the minors for all we know… But all your see is two guys that can’t hit. Wrong… |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 13, 2022 23:57:36 GMT -5
So we trade for Donaldson just to take on his 50 million and then flip him while keeping his contract? Are you on that ambien again inger?  Oh, thanks. I haven’t taken it yet, but it’s time… I was on a good sleeping schedule but then I napped after dinner today like a moron. Woke up with a massive headache and now I'll be awake all night. |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 0:00:27 GMT -5
Well for all their ups and downs, Gary and Gio did have their moments. Farewell to the two:
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 0:00:38 GMT -5
None of them hit at .280 from the links I looked at. Donaldson hit .246 and is on the down end of his career if he can even play, the catcher under .200, I think the SS hit .271
Two of the three can't hit for average at all. The third you see as having potential, I only know what he has actually done.
Well besides being on three teams in a week
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Post by anthonyd46 on Mar 14, 2022 0:04:02 GMT -5
I guess Correa isn't happening then.
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 0:07:39 GMT -5
I guess Correa isn't happening then. I think that was certain before this. The Yankees were never going to invest that much money in a line player. Its pretty clear they will stick to the cap or a little over. That leaves little for elite purchases. I doubt you will see one in a really long time. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 5:12:18 GMT -5
None of them hit at .280 from the links I looked at. Donaldson hit .246 and is on the down end of his career if he can even play, the catcher under .200, I think the SS hit .271 Two of the three can't hit for average at all. The third you see as having potential, I only know what he has actually done. Well besides being on three teams in a week .280 = good hitter .271 = can’t hit at all Missed it by THAT much, Chief … |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 14, 2022 6:14:17 GMT -5
The guy who comes out worst in all of this is Sonny Gray. Just when he thought he was safe, he has Sanchez as his catcher again. You know he didn't sleep last night.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 14, 2022 6:28:47 GMT -5
I agree with those who say there is probably another shoe or two to drop with this deal. I am so glad to be done with The Sanchino that it almost obscures the rest of the trade. Like I said when the Yanks rid themselves of Sonny Gray, I don't care how well he does someplace else, he wasn't doing it in New York, so good luck and God bless.
We all love Gio -- how could you not? He was for sure one of my favorites. And nobody ever called Josh Donaldson a ray of sunshine. But looking even at just last season, Donaldson played in 135 games to Gio's 116. Donaldson had an OBP of .352 to Gio's .301. An OPS+ of 127 to Gio's 96. Twenty-six home runs to Gio's 14. Defensively he's at least as good as Urshela.
Obviously his age and salary are an issue, but just based on last year's performance the Yanks would have been better off with Donaldson at third than with Gio. I'm not saying Josh Donaldson is the answer to a prayer, but barring the unforeseen it's not a disaster either. And maybe the fact that Hal is throwing money out there is a sign that he's been goaded by that guy in Queens to pry open his wallet, let a few of the moths fly out, and start spending some dough.
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