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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 8:40:04 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 8:46:53 GMT -5
Sorry, looks like the link doesn’t work.
Basically, he looks good defensively, his arm is 55 rated, though he sometimes pulls his throws and they come in low when he does.
The bat is a good contact bat, with a flat swing and opposite field approach. He’s swing happy. He’s strong but has not figured Voit how to transfer his strength to in game hitting. There is a good chance he’s going to develop into an average to above power bat.
Sort of sounds like a project to me. More of a back up or AAAA guy until the Yanks staff works with him…
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 14:29:33 GMT -5
Russ Francis II Sort of looks like a defensive replacement to me. Although project works to. Sort of like Pavano was.  Well in terms of a project not a defensive replacement. Or Paxton. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 15:14:44 GMT -5
Russ Francis II Sort of looks like a defensive replacement to me. Although project works to. Sort of like Pavano was. Well in terms of a project not a defensive replacement. Or Paxton. I’m confused now. Not about all of life. Just about what the heck you even mean here…🤓 |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 15:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 15:37:49 GMT -5
Russ Francis II Sort of looks like a defensive replacement to me. Although project works to. Sort of like Pavano was.  Well in terms of a project not a defensive replacement. Or Paxton. I’m confused now. Not about all of life. Just about what the heck you even mean here…🤓 I mean he can't hit to save his life, but if they throw him the right pitch he might be able to hit it a long way. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 15:45:50 GMT -5
I’m confused now. Not about all of life. Just about what the heck you even mean here…🤓 I mean he can't hit to save his life, but if they throw him the right pitch he might be able to hit it a long way. It’s called latent power. He’s strong as an ox, but hasn’t figured out how to transfer his power to game situations. As for can’t hit to save his life, he started out five years ago hitting .200-.220 in the minors. He left AAA hitting .270, which is almost .280, as you are beginning to learn. 😁 We only have a few MLB at bats to judge him on, and they did not go well. If our coaching staff can teach him to pull the ball he could become a horse. At least a mule… |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 15:57:01 GMT -5
I mean he can't hit to save his life, but if they throw him the right pitch he might be able to hit it a long way. It’s called latent power. He’s strong as an ox, but hasn’t figured out how to transfer his power to game situations. As for can’t hit to save his life, he started out five years ago hitting .200-.220 in the minors. He left AAA hitting .270, which is almost .280, as you are beginning to learn. 😁 We only have a few MLB at bats to judge him on, and they did not go well. If our coaching staff can teach him to pull the ball he could become a horse. At least a mule… The good thing about potential is if you never use it, you never use it up. We can speculate endlessly about what might have happened. Long after he went elsewhere. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 16:19:51 GMT -5
It’s called latent power. He’s strong as an ox, but hasn’t figured out how to transfer his power to game situations. As for can’t hit to save his life, he started out five years ago hitting .200-.220 in the minors. He left AAA hitting .270, which is almost .280, as you are beginning to learn. 😁 We only have a few MLB at bats to judge him on, and they did not go well. If our coaching staff can teach him to pull the ball he could become a horse. At least a mule… The good thing about potential is if you never use it, you never use it up. We can speculate endlessly about what might have happened. Long after he went elsewhere. From a negative point of view, yes. On the other hand, Don Mattingly and Brett Gardner reached the majors without yet having learned to turn on the ball to become home run threats. Team mates and coaches showed them how, and the power they produced made them more valuable weapons in the line up. Ironically, in typing this I also had the thought that had Mattingly continued to primarily spray the ball about the field, he may not have encountered his later back problems, been a perennial batting champ, acquired a more intimidating career hit total and matriculated to a place in the Hall of Fame. The pendulum of potential can indeed swing more ways than one… |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 16:28:27 GMT -5
For every one like that there are 10 Andujar's. Probably more.
Anything is possible, somethings are more likely.
"The race does not always go to the fleet of foot nor the battle to the brave of heart - but that is the way to bet."
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 16:38:09 GMT -5
For every one like that there are 10 Andujar's. Probably more. Anything is possible, somethings are more likely. "The race does not always go to the fleet of foot nor the battle to the brave of heart - but that is the way to bet." So, look at the arms in this kid and tell me he’s not a prospect to hit at least 20 HR. Reminds me of my own observations a few years back when I commented on Gardner’s thick neck and broad shoulders and predicted double figure HR seasons, or Granderson’s long, thin levers and predicted 40 HR seasons. All “just” potential at the time… |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 16:54:22 GMT -5
For every one like that there are 10 Andujar's. Probably more. Anything is possible, somethings are more likely. "The race does not always go to the fleet of foot nor the battle to the brave of heart - but that is the way to bet." So, look at the arms in this kid and tell me he’s not a prospect to hit at least 20 HR. Reminds me of my own observations a few years back when I commented on Gardner’s thick neck and broad shoulders and predicted double figure HR seasons, or Granderson’s long, thin levers and predicted 40 HR seasons. All “just” potential at the time… Which would go to my original point. Russ Francis II |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 17:03:04 GMT -5
So, look at the arms in this kid and tell me he’s not a prospect to hit at least 20 HR. Reminds me of my own observations a few years back when I commented on Gardner’s thick neck and broad shoulders and predicted double figure HR seasons, or Granderson’s long, thin levers and predicted 40 HR seasons. All “just” potential at the time… Which would go to my original point. Russ Francis II In other words, relative to baseball, you’ve lost the meter and there is little sense in the continuation of a discussion you probably should do have stayed out of.., |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 14, 2022 17:07:26 GMT -5
Which would go to my original point. Russ Francis II In other words, relative to baseball, you’ve lost the meter and there is little sense in the continuation of a discussion you probably should do have stayed out of.., If your ideal is a guy who bats .200 and hits 20 home runs you may be happy. I won't be. |
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 18:00:22 GMT -5
In other words, relative to baseball, you’ve lost the meter and there is little sense in the continuation of a discussion you probably should do have stayed out of.., If your ideal is a guy who bats .200 and hits 20 home runs you may be happy. I won't be. You just created a straw man with those statistics right out of your rectal area. I never said that at all. First of all, this thread is about a prospect we acquired with little MLB experience. He’s not someone I project to be our starter, not even to get significant repetitions if any at the ML level. I think Higgy is currently our 120 game starter. I’m hoping his repetitions increase will get him closer to his MiLB line in batting. But… if you view the state of offense among MLB catchers, you’ll find that a .200/20 catcher is not that uncommon. The position is returning to its once more traditional role of field general and defensive specialist. Run prevention is just as important as fun creation… |
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Well in terms of a project not a defensive replacement. Or Paxton.
Well in terms of a project not a defensive replacement. Or Paxton.