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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -5
Screw Gleyber and whoever represents him! Gleyber owes the Yankees and the fans who stuck with him through all of his boneheadedness in hopes that he would finally get it together to earn a long term contract Instead he went out and sucked beyond what anyone could imagine and now he has the nerve to complain about moving positions? Who is going to want him? Gleyber should shut his mouth, hit like he is supposed to, play where he is asked to, and help the Yankees win a world series !!! That's the best thing Gleyber can do for himself and his teammates !! Aaron Judge is the highest paid player on the Yankees and its Captain ! He should set the example and play 3rd. And for that matter, what does Cole do during the 130 games he doesn't pitch ? A little time in the infield might work out there too. Step up boys !!! That did make me laugh. |
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Jul 29, 2024 11:02:10 GMT -5
Yes I do. I think it is unfair to force Torres to move to 3rd and equally unfairl to bench him. If I represented Torres, I'd perfer the chance to be a stretch run hero for another ccontender. i've only seen one AB but do like chisholm and think he can bring "energy" to the team. on the other hand, the need was 3B and this doesn't solve it. makes little sense or fair to move either he or gleyber there in august. gleyber has stated his opposition to it and with his offensive struggles it will only complicate things. have to think they're planning to trade him. and as chisholm hasn't been a resounding success in CF and with stanton coming back and perhaps dominguez as well, not sure how he fits in the OF either unless they're thinking LF next season when verdugo is gone. seems like a square peg round hole thing. perhaps we'll get some clarity within the next 30 hrs. I think there's also a middle ground here where they're trying to play the game of improving this year's team but also a longer term focus. It doesn't feel like they're going to keep Torres. Hal preaches financial discipline but also is going to be under massive fan pressure to re-sign Soto which take a huge payroll allocation. There's definitely a need for a 2B next year and Chisholm should be cheaper than Torres through arbitration. Additionally, LF is a hole next year with Verdugo a FA (and also a hole now because Verdugo sucks). In theory Dominguez should fill that spot, but you never know. And even though it sucks to think about, Soto isn't signed. If Soto is gone you could move Judge back to RF and slot Chisholm in CF. Even if Dominguez slots into LF and Soto is re-signed to play RF with Judge staying in CF, you HAVE to plan for Stanton getting hurt eventually in which case CF could open up with Soto from RF to DH, Judge from CF to RF. It might be an odd fit this year, but he seems to fit the team pretty well next year. If Soto leaves then CF is going to be open if not 2B as well. If Soto stays, then unlikely Torres is re-signed so 2B is open. Either way, his lefty bat would be a welcome addition and while it might be clunky this year injuries and under performance from other guys will still make easy to write into the lineup everyday. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 29, 2024 11:15:49 GMT -5
Don't want to sound like a fence sitter here as I have also said I would not have moved him to a new position midseason I would have preferred his response have been somthing like "I haven't played 3B alot and while it might be uncomfortable I'm willing to give it a shot if Booney thinks it gives us the best chance to win" . I understand this will start the discussion about modern ballplayers not wanting to do things that could affect their next contract in a negative way but I come from the Team first era of sports that doesn't always exist in todays game. Again, I don't think it's a good baseball move but I am also a bit disappointed by Gleyber's statement, particulary since he's discussed how much he wants to stay in Pinstripes. Boone has said he will try Jazz at 3B, he may be more athletic than Torres and this may be the better of two bad choices but it also says somthing to me about Jazz if he's willing to give it a shot. |
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Post by inger on Jul 29, 2024 11:21:47 GMT -5
Don't want to sound like a fence sitter here as I have also said I would not have moved him to a new position midseason I would have preferred his response have been somthing like "I haven't played 3B alot and while it might be uncomfortable I'm willing to give it a shot if Booney thinks it gives us the best chance to win" . I understand this will start the discussion about modern ballplayers not wanting to do things that could affect their next contract in a negative way but I come from the Team first era of sports that doesn't always exist in todays game. Again, I don't think it's a good baseball move but I am also a bit disappointed by Gleyber's statement, particulary since he's discussed how much he wants to stay in Pinstripes. Boone has said he will try Jazz at 3B, he may be more athletic than Torres and this may be the better of two bad choices but it also says somthing to me about Jazz if he's willing to give it a shot. We share similar positions on the subject… I look for Gleyber to be dealt… although he’ll go cheap at this point… |
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Post by inger on Jul 29, 2024 11:26:40 GMT -5
Don't want to sound like a fence sitter here as I have also said I would not have moved him to a new position midseason I would have preferred his response have been somthing like "I haven't played 3B alot and while it might be uncomfortable I'm willing to give it a shot if Booney thinks it gives us the best chance to win" . I understand this will start the discussion about modern ballplayers not wanting to do things that could affect their next contract in a negative way but I come from the Team first era of sports that doesn't always exist in todays game. Again, I don't think it's a good baseball move but I am also a bit disappointed by Gleyber's statement, particulary since he's discussed how much he wants to stay in Pinstripes. Boone has said he will try Jazz at 3B, he may be more athletic than Torres and this may be the better of two bad choices but it also says somthing to me about Jazz if he's willing to give it a shot. Jazz has been more flashy than productive at this point in his career, but if he can put injuries behind him and grow into a man at this point…we just might have a helluva good player on our hands. Reminds me a bit of when we acquired Granderson. Both are glib men with the gift of gab, Granderson backed it up by being a perfect gentleman in all aspects of life…and learned a new approach that made him a bigger power threat than ever… |
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Post by Max on Jul 29, 2024 11:39:58 GMT -5
As many times as I've said I believe Gleyber is best suited to play 3B, it's a bit much to ask a player in his walk year to move to a position he's never played at this point in the season. You gotta be fair. If Cashman plans on playing Chisholm at 2nd he should move Torres. True.
Also... Unless it was just a sound bite for other GMs to hear, Boone mentioned Jazz playing 3B. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 29, 2024 11:49:06 GMT -5
Don't want to sound like a fence sitter here as I have also said I would not have moved him to a new position midseason I would have preferred his response have been somthing like "I haven't played 3B alot and while it might be uncomfortable I'm willing to give it a shot if Booney thinks it gives us the best chance to win" . I understand this will start the discussion about modern ballplayers not wanting to do things that could affect their next contract in a negative way but I come from the Team first era of sports that doesn't always exist in todays game. Again, I don't think it's a good baseball move but I am also a bit disappointed by Gleyber's statement, particulary since he's discussed how much he wants to stay in Pinstripes. Boone has said he will try Jazz at 3B, he may be more athletic than Torres and this may be the better of two bad choices but it also says somthing to me about Jazz if he's willing to give it a shot. Jazz has been more flashy than productive at this point in his career, but if he can put injuries behind him and grow into a man at this point…we just might have a helluva good player on our hands. Reminds me a bit of when we acquired Granderson. Both are glib men with the gift of gab, Granderson backed it up by being a perfect gentleman in all aspects of life…and learned a new approach that made him a bigger power threat than ever… What happened to the uniform code that used to exist in baseball. I though at one point everyone had to wear the same colored shoes and belt. I also notice several Yankees including Judge and Verdugo have adopted powder blue accessories. Gloves too are often very colorful. Not saying the change is necessarily a bad thing, just wondering when or if it changed. |
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Post by Max on Jul 29, 2024 11:49:43 GMT -5
Remember the game Mattingly played 3b? I can't recall if it was a Martin publicity stunt or if there was a real need. Hah, I do remember that 55. It was actually under Lou Piniella who had run out of position players by using a lot of pinch hitter early in the game. So in the middle of the game Mattingly was moved to third, and the first inning he was out there he started an around-the-horn double play! He also had a few other assists and I believe no errors. Just your everyday left-handed third baseman. lol Yep, Mattingly played some OF too. I remember when Munson played some games in the OF, 1B, and a few innings at 3B. And when Guidry played CF in the continuation of the Pine Tar game. |
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Post by Max on Jul 29, 2024 11:53:11 GMT -5
Yes I do. I think it is unfair to force Torres to move to 3rd and equally unfairl to bench him. If I represented Torres, I'd perfer the chance to be a stretch run hero for another ccontender. Agreed. Frankly, I'd like to see him moved...and go on to have an All-Star career with a contending team. I agree. |
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Post by inger on Jul 29, 2024 11:54:44 GMT -5
Jazz has been more flashy than productive at this point in his career, but if he can put injuries behind him and grow into a man at this point…we just might have a helluva good player on our hands. Reminds me a bit of when we acquired Granderson. Both are glib men with the gift of gab, Granderson backed it up by being a perfect gentleman in all aspects of life…and learned a new approach that made him a bigger power threat than ever… What happened to the uniform code that used to exist in baseball. I thought at one point everyone had to wear the same colored shoes and belt. I also notice several Yankees including Judge and Verdugo have adopted powder blue accessories. Gloves too are often very colorful. Not saying the change is necessarily a bad thing, just wondering when or if it changed. Good question. I don’t know if ever changed officially. But we’ve gone from a stage where David Wells wasn’t allowed Babe Ruth’s hat to “City Connect” uniforms (Those yellow Red Sox shirts are ghastly ugly) to where we are now. There’s no returning now. Remembering playing shirts and skins in basketball and looking across the gym, hoping the girls would do the same. They never did… |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 29, 2024 12:46:02 GMT -5
Screw Gleyber and whoever represents him! Gleyber owes the Yankees and the fans who stuck with him through all of his boneheadedness in hopes that he would finally get it together to earn a long term contract Instead he went out and sucked beyond what anyone could imagine and now he has the nerve to complain about moving positions? Who is going to want him? Gleyber should shut his mouth, hit like he is supposed to, play where he is asked to, and help the Yankees win a world series !!! That's the best thing Gleyber can do for himself and his teammates !! Aaron Judge is the highest paid player on the Yankees and its Captain ! He should set the example and play 3rd. And for that matter, what does Cole do during the 130 games he doesn't pitch ? A little time in the infield might work out there too. Step up boys !!! Very good point! I bet you if asked Judge or Cole they'd say the will do whats best for the team. There is a reason Judge is the captain Here is what Chisholm (who has never played third base in his professional career) had to say about it Jazz Chisholm Jr. says he is open to playing third base for the New York Yankees, adding that he "could go and play anywhere and help my team win."
www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40672617/yankees-jazz-chisholm-jr-open-3b-gleyber-torres-balks-move
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Post by qimqam on Jul 29, 2024 13:17:17 GMT -5
Remember the game Mattingly played 3b? I can't recall if it was a Martin publicity stunt or if there was a real need. Mattingly played 2nd to conclude the Pine Tar Game and 3B three different times ...And He was a Lefty
Why ex-Yankees captain Don Mattingly once offered to move to 3rd base
www.nj.com/yankees/2020/01/why-ex-yankees-captain-don-mattingly-once-offered-to-move-to-3rd-base.html“Donnie Baseball taught me so much about the game,” Maas said. “He was the consummate professional. Donnie said to me, ‘Kev, I’ll do whatever it takes. I’ll take grounders at third base if it means you and me getting in the lineup together.’ He was serious, I think, when he said that. He was always just like, ‘Hey, whatever it takes for us to win, let’s do it.’ That spoke volumes about him as a person and as a teammate. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 29, 2024 13:21:34 GMT -5
Who was the better SS...Jeter or ARod?
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Post by Max on Jul 29, 2024 14:02:28 GMT -5
Who was the better SS...Jeter or ARod? ARod. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 29, 2024 14:32:32 GMT -5
Who was the better SS...Jeter or ARod? ARod. Just wondering how that applies to all the sanctimonious talk of how "team players" should do what's best for the team. |
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