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Post by noetsi on Apr 10, 2022 22:06:59 GMT -5
B- A- T- T- I- N- G- A- V- E- R- A -G -E There is a reason we never end up in WS. We can't hit the ball to save our life. And as long as we are below the league average in hitting not home runs we will never get there. So let me get this straight. To you batting average is more important than runs scored? My point is you can't get to the WS with a BA of .230 Is there a way for me to post charts here? |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 10, 2022 22:07:02 GMT -5
Where has that got the blue jays the last 5 years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If the yankees had our pitchers they would have gone a lot further. We were talking about hitting... The blue jays have been world beaters on offense the last 5 years and have 1 playoff appearance in a year 16 teams made the playoffs and they were the last seed in al. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 10, 2022 22:07:40 GMT -5
The Yankees cannot afford another half of baseball from Gallo like he had last season. He may just not be able to play in New York. It's only one series, but Gallo was an all-star. The watch continues. His mentor is Giambi that's explains a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I never wanted Giambi, whom I saw as a DH in waiting. But, the Yankees paid Giambi like a five tool player. Having said that, Giambi put up some numbers in Pinstripes, averaging .260/.404/.521/.925 during his tenure. If Gallo put up those numbers, we would be ecstatic. |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 10, 2022 22:09:12 GMT -5
So let me get this straight. To you batting average is more important than runs scored? My point is you can't get to the WS with a BA of .230 Is there a way for me to post charts here? Take a screenshot and email me the pic. I'll post it. |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 10, 2022 22:12:18 GMT -5
So let me get this straight. To you batting average is more important than runs scored? My point is you can't get to the WS with a BA of .230 That's funny because the Braves had a BA of .244 and won the World Series last year. Pretty close to .230. |
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 10, 2022 22:14:41 GMT -5
My point is you can't get to the WS with a BA of .230 That's funny because the Braves had a BA of .244 and won the World Series last year. Pretty close to .230. The Yankees batted .237 as a team in 2021, so it was actually a lot closer to .244: .007 |
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Post by noetsi on Apr 10, 2022 22:16:28 GMT -5
2021 NY .237 AL .245
2020 NY .247 AL .243
2019 NY .267 AL .253
2018 NY .249 AL .249
2017 NY .262 AL .256
2016 NY .252 AL .257
2015 NY .251 AL .256
2014 NY .245 AL .253
2013 NY .242 AL .256
2012 NY .265 AL .255
2011 NY .263 AL .258
Note that this is the entire AL including cellar teams. I am sure would fare worse against play off AL teams.
I understand I am the only one here who thinks batting average matters. So I won't bring this up again. I simply don't think we will be in a WS batting this poorly and with as little team speed as we have.
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Post by kaybli on Apr 10, 2022 22:17:42 GMT -5
2021 NY .237 AL .245 2020 NY .247 AL .243 2019 NY .267 AL .253 2018 NY .249 AL .249 2017 NY .262 AL .256 2016 NY .252 AL .257 2015 NY .251 AL .256 2014 NY .245 AL .253 2013 NY .242 AL .256 2012 NY .265 AL .255 2011 NY .263 AL .258 Note that this is the entire AL including cellar teams. I am sure would fare worse against play off AL teams. I understand I am the only one here who thinks batting average matters. So I won't bring this up again. I simply don't think we will be in a WS batting this poorly and with as little team speed as we have. There is literally not a single person here who has said batting average doesn't matter. We just don't think it's the end all, be all of offensive production. |
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Post by noetsi on Apr 10, 2022 22:20:50 GMT -5
2021 NY .237 AL .245 2020 NY .247 AL .243 2019 NY .267 AL .253 2018 NY .249 AL .249 2017 NY .262 AL .256 2016 NY .252 AL .257 2015 NY .251 AL .256 2014 NY .245 AL .253 2013 NY .242 AL .256 2012 NY .265 AL .255 2011 NY .263 AL .258 Note that this is the entire AL including cellar teams. I am sure would fare worse against play off AL teams. I understand I am the only one here who thinks batting average matters. So I won't bring this up again. I simply don't think we will be in a WS batting this poorly and with as little team speed as we have. There is literally not a single person here who has said batting average doesn't matter. I am glad we agree then. We won't be in a WS with a GM who signs Hicks and Gallows and the beloved catcher who can't hit. If he believes hitting matters, batting average, he never shows it in his decisions. When we resigned Gallo and made no effort to purchase or trade for a single good hitter my morale collapsed. Lots of our competitors did both. When we want to win a WS we can fire Cashman and do what it takes to win. The amazing thing about the Yankees is not that we can't hit very well by play off standards. It is that we spend huge fortunes and do that. We should hire Oaklands or Tampa's GM. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 10, 2022 22:22:34 GMT -5
My point is you can't get to the WS with a BA of .230 That's funny because the Braves had a BA of .244 and won the World Series last year. Pretty close to .230. The Yankees and the Braves had the same record basically when they played each other in Atlanta during the Yankees streak. The Braves went onto the world series and the Yankees didn't. Therefore the Yankees could have gotten there but things other than batting average was more of a cause like bad base running and bad fielding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 10, 2022 22:23:21 GMT -5
His mentor is Giambi that's explains a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I never wanted Giambi, whom I saw as a DH in waiting. But, the Yankees paid Giambi like a five tool player. Having said that, Giambi put up some numbers in Pinstripes, averaging .260/.404/.521/.925 during his tenure. If Gallo put up those numbers, we would be ecstatic. True not the greatest numbers but ones you think Gallo could get to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 10, 2022 22:27:29 GMT -5
2021 NY .237 AL .245 2020 NY .247 AL .243 2019 NY .267 AL .253 2018 NY .249 AL .249 2017 NY .262 AL .256 2016 NY .252 AL .257 2015 NY .251 AL .256 2014 NY .245 AL .253 2013 NY .242 AL .256 2012 NY .265 AL .255 2011 NY .263 AL .258 Note that this is the entire AL including cellar teams. I am sure would fare worse against play off AL teams. I understand I am the only one here who thinks batting average matters. So I won't bring this up again. I simply don't think we will be in a WS batting this poorly and with as little team speed as we have. I do not recall a single poster maintaining that batting average does not matter. Last season, the Yankees batted .237 as a team and did not make the World Series. In 2020, Tampa Bay hit .238 as a team and made the World Series. |
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Post by noetsi on Apr 10, 2022 22:29:04 GMT -5
That's funny because the Braves had a BA of .244 and won the World Series last year. Pretty close to .230. The Yankees and the Braves had the same record basically when they played each other in Atlanta during the Yankees streak. The Braves went onto the world series and the Yankees didn't. Therefore the Yankees could have gotten there but things other than batting average was more of a cause like bad base running and bad fielding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The yankees had a long run of wins where we won by one run, not a dominant performance but luck as much as anything (or pitching). If we had not had that long streak we would have been a .500 team and probably not made the play offs at all. We weren't a very good team offensively last year - we had one long winning streak where we won a lot of close games. Most of the year we were not that good. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 10, 2022 22:32:08 GMT -5
The Yankees and the Braves had the same record basically when they played each other in Atlanta during the Yankees streak. The Braves went onto the world series and the Yankees didn't. Therefore the Yankees could have gotten there but things other than batting average was more of a cause like bad base running and bad fielding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The yankees had a long run of wins where we won by one run, not a dominant performance but luck as much as anything (or pitching). If we had not had that long streak we would have been a .500 team and probably not made the play offs at all. We weren't a very good team offensively last year - we had one long winning streak where we won a lot of close games. Most of the year we were not that good. They were 46-27 for a .630 winning percentage after the asb... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by noetsi on Apr 10, 2022 22:33:39 GMT -5
I am glad we all agree that batting average matters - a lot. Now if we can only get cashman to realize it.  I am hoping he gets fired. The amount of money this team spends should get us to a WS every decade or so. Although the owners get blamed, including by me, we are the third highest spending team in the majors. We should be a better team than we have been, with that kind of payroll you should not have the bottom half of the line up we have. |
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