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Post by chiyankee on Apr 26, 2022 18:02:17 GMT -5
The "The Letter" is much to do about nothing but the Yankee front office sure is a paranoid group.
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Post by noetsi on Apr 26, 2022 18:35:13 GMT -5
The "The Letter" is much to do about nothing but the Yankee front office sure is a paranoid group. They sure pulled out all the stops to stop the letter if that is true. Thus making themselves look guilty since innocent people don't usually behave this way.
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Post by noetsi on Apr 26, 2022 18:37:01 GMT -5
SNY Exclusive: The 'Yankee Letter' revealed
-The letter does not implicate the Yankees in a sign-stealing scheme similar to the one for which the Houston Astros were punished, when batters received the signs in real time without the help of a runner on second base.
-It does reveal -- as SNY has previously reported it would -- that the Yanks used the video replay room in 2015 and 2016 to decode sign sequences and pass them to a runner on second base, who would then relay them to the batter.
-The Yankees received a fine of $100,000 for improper use of the dugout phone, a previously unreported amount.
-The letter clears the Yankees of using YES Network cameras to steal signs, which the Red Sox alleged.
-The letter does not accuse the Yankees of sign-stealing after the crucial date of Sept. 15, 2017, when Manfred announced that from that day forward electronic sign stealing would be subject to more severe punishments. In fact, the letter does not accuse the team of stealing signs at any point during the 2017 season.
Anyone hoping that it would implicate the Yankees or Red Sox in a scandal of Astros-level proportion will be disappointed by its contents. Houston remains the only team proven to have stolen signs electronically in real time and passed them directly to the batter -- most commonly by the banging of a trash can behind the dugout. The Astros’ sign stealing by various methods extended through the 2019 season.
It suggests they tried, they just were not as inventive.
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Post by inger on Apr 26, 2022 21:51:56 GMT -5
The "The Letter" is much to do about nothing but the Yankee front office sure is a paranoid group. They sure pulled out all the stops to stop the letter if that is true. Thus making themselves look guilty since innocent people don't usually behave this way. You’ve never worked for a publicly traded entity, Russ. Paranoia is a way of life. Never let the truth get in the way of a narrative…
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Post by noetsi on Apr 27, 2022 20:08:24 GMT -5
I have worked for them but I ran stats and sql. They don't get involved in public relations much.
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Post by inger on Apr 27, 2022 22:05:12 GMT -5
I have worked for them but I ran stats and sql. They don't get involved in public relations much. We were specifically instructed to never talk to the press. They had an 800 number we could give the press to call for comment. We also were pledged to watch for suspicious criminal behavior that might indicate terrorism or drug manufacturing. For instance, thirty 20 pound barbecue cylinders outside of a home might be a meth cook. So, do the dirty work, but make sure you take no glory… 😂
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Post by noetsi on Apr 28, 2022 10:14:59 GMT -5
There was a major corruption scandal, the organization I worked for stole lots of money from the government. So the suspicious criminal behavior in my organization occurred at the CEO level.
I never talked to anyone outside the agency.
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2022 10:22:17 GMT -5
There was a major corruption scandal, the organization I worked for stole lots of money from the government. So the suspicious criminal behavior in my organization occurred at the CEO level. I never talked to anyone outside the agency. Until now. Listen for twigs cracking in the dark. Triple bolt your windows. Eli’s Coming! …
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Post by noetsi on Apr 28, 2022 14:30:54 GMT -5
" After years of speculation and failed legal arguments, the “Yankees letter” became public before Tuesday’s games began. It confirms that the Yankees’ players used the video replay room to steal signs and decode pitch sequences in 2015 and 2016 and tried to use runners on second base to relay them to the hitters. While it will not matter to fans of teams like the Astros and Red Sox, who have been punished for sign-stealing scandals, there is a difference. The Astros and Red Sox were punished for sign stealing after September 2017, when Commissioner Rob Manfred defined the rules for using the video replay room, which had just been started three years before. The allegations against the Yankees are from before that declaration from Manfred." But cashman says we never cheated. Did things the right way. What we did differently apparently was cheated differently sports.yahoo.com/baseball-reacts-release-letter-outlined-003100661.html
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Post by pippsheadache on Apr 28, 2022 14:45:06 GMT -5
No, it means nothing of the sort. It wasn't against the rules when the Yankees and probably every other team did that. That's one reason ex post facto laws are forbidden under the Constitution.
If it isn't against the rules, there's nothing to punish. So it ain't cheating. Get it?
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Post by inger on Apr 28, 2022 14:54:19 GMT -5
No, it means nothing of the sort. It wasn't against the rules when the Yankees and probably every other team did that. That's one reason ex post facto laws are forbidden under the Constitution. If it isn't against the rules, there's nothing to punish. So it ain't cheating. Get it? No. He doesn’t. He won’t. He wants the Yankees to be deemed cheaters. Once again, masochistic fandom heads it’s ugly rear…
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Post by noetsi on Apr 28, 2022 18:56:52 GMT -5
No, it means nothing of the sort. It wasn't against the rules when the Yankees and probably every other team did that. That's one reason ex post facto laws are forbidden under the Constitution. If it isn't against the rules, there's nothing to punish. So it ain't cheating. Get it? No. He doesn’t. He won’t. He wants the Yankees to be deemed cheaters. Once again, masochistic fandom heads it’s ugly rear… I think it was against the rules and the simply did not enforce it, but I could be wrong.
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Post by chiyankee on Apr 28, 2022 19:29:38 GMT -5
No. He doesn’t. He won’t. He wants the Yankees to be deemed cheaters. Once again, masochistic fandom heads it’s ugly rear… I think it was against the rules and the simply did not enforce it, but I could be wrong. This isn't breaking news, this has been know about for years. A complete nonstory.
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 28, 2022 19:58:55 GMT -5
There was a major corruption scandal, the organization I worked for stole lots of money from the government. So the suspicious criminal behavior in my organization occurred at the CEO level. I never talked to anyone outside the agency. So, you admit it, then?
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 28, 2022 20:01:25 GMT -5
No, it means nothing of the sort. It wasn't against the rules when the Yankees and probably every other team did that. That's one reason ex post facto laws are forbidden under the Constitution. If it isn't against the rules, there's nothing to punish. So it ain't cheating. Get it? Thank you for using the legal term ex post facto. Perfectly correct, Sir! May your robes flow freely.
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