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Post by chiyankee on Jun 5, 2024 8:56:05 GMT -5
Bobo Holloman made his MLB debut April 18, 1953, for the St Louis Browns and made 4 relief appearances. In his first START however, on May 6, Holloman threw a no-hitter, becoming the first player to do so in his first start since 1900. He pitched in 22 games that season for the Browns, before being sold to a minor league team. Holloman spent the rest of 1953 and 1954 in the minor leagues, before retiring from active play. www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hollobo01.shtml… Sounds like Bobo set the bar way too high during his first start. It was all downhill from there. |
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Post by inger on Jun 5, 2024 8:56:08 GMT -5
May 27, 1983, Dave Winfield grabs Oakland A’s catcher Mike Heath by the throat at Yankee Stadium. If my memory serves me right, Mike Norris threw at him and Winfield made a move to charge the mound and Heath got in front of him to stop him and the fight was on!… Mike Heath, Ex-Yankee. Yankee on Yankee hate. 😂 |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 5, 2024 9:55:25 GMT -5
What an amazing stat. And using historically recognized criteria, not overly cherry-picked. It seems like there should be more, but none of the usual suspects make it. Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx and Williams come within a few hundred hits of being in that list, and Gehrig 7 HRs. If Gehrig didn't get sick, I think he would have had 600 HRs and would be all-time leader in RBI. Yep and if Williams didn't lose so much time in the service he would have easily gotten there. Might have also hit close to 700 hrs. |
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Post by inger on Jun 5, 2024 9:56:54 GMT -5
Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx and Williams come within a few hundred hits of being in that list, and Gehrig 7 HRs. If Gehrig didn't get sick, I think he would have had 600 HRs and would be all-time leader in RBI. Yep and if Williams didn't lose so much time in the service he would have easily gotten there. Might have also hit close to 700 hrs. Good one… |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 5, 2024 10:07:45 GMT -5
For grins, I looked at William's stats. He missed three prime years to the service, I actually thought it was more. I gave him the same hit and hr totals for those three years as he had the season before and he ends up with 629 hrs and 3212 hits. Couple things surprised me, he never had 200 hits, probably because he walked so much. He also missed a lot of games. During his 19 year career he averaged about 120 games a season.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 5, 2024 10:47:55 GMT -5
For grins, I looked at William's stats. He missed three prime years to the service, I actually thought it was more. I gave him the same hit and hr totals for those three years as he had the season before and he ends up with 629 hrs and 3212 hits. Couple things surprised me, he never had 200 hits, probably because he walked so much. He also missed a lot of games. During his 19 year career he averaged about 120 games a season. 55, Ted missed three full years in World War II. But he also missed almost two more full seasons during the Korean War (he played six games in 52 and 37 games in 53.) |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 5, 2024 10:55:14 GMT -5
Yep and if Williams didn't lose so much time in the service he would have easily gotten there. Might have also hit close to 700 hrs. Good one… Mel Ott is another who seems like a candidate -- he met the HR and BA requirements, but finished with 2,876 hits. It's a difficult accomplishment. The Babe didn't become a full-time position player until he was 24. He finished with 2,873 hits in 8,399 ABs. Hank had 12,364 ABs, Willie had 10,924 ABs and Miggy had 10,356 ABs. No question they were three of the greatest hitters of all time, but they all had thousands of chances more to get hits. |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Jun 5, 2024 11:22:53 GMT -5
For grins, I looked at William's stats. He missed three prime years to the service, I actually thought it was more. I gave him the same hit and hr totals for those three years as he had the season before and he ends up with 629 hrs and 3212 hits. Couple things surprised me, he never had 200 hits, probably because he walked so much. He also missed a lot of games. During his 19 year career he averaged about 120 games a season. Also for grins, I looked up the numbers for hall of famers Ruth, Williams, Mays, and Aaron and compared their numbers for ages 35 - 39 (35 being the age where Gehrig showed the effects of his illness), as compared to the rest of their careers. Assuming a similar decline for Gehrig compared to all of them. Now I understand this is not exact science, however, here is what I came up with. Gehrig would have finished with 3,433 hits placing him 7th on the all-time hit list, just behind Derek Jeter. 680 HRs placing him 6th on the all-time hit list, behind at least 2 known cheaters. 2,611 RBI placing him 1st on the all-time hit list, over 300 more than the current leader, Hank Aaron. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 5, 2024 11:37:12 GMT -5
For grins, I looked at William's stats. He missed three prime years to the service, I actually thought it was more. I gave him the same hit and hr totals for those three years as he had the season before and he ends up with 629 hrs and 3212 hits. Couple things surprised me, he never had 200 hits, probably because he walked so much. He also missed a lot of games. During his 19 year career he averaged about 120 games a season. 55, Ted missed three full years in World War II. But he also missed almost two more full seasons during the Korean War (he played six games in 52 and 37 games in 53.) OK, that explains the low games played number. |
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Post by Max on Jun 5, 2024 13:02:30 GMT -5
Who will receive more boos, Judge in San Francisco or Verdugo in Boston? I'm going to say Verdugo. |
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Post by inger on Jun 6, 2024 7:37:43 GMT -5
Did you know that Nolan Ryan once started back to back games? I don’t know the dates, but his former manager, Dick Williams, after speaking to the press about Ryan’s start the day before, with Ryan’s name on his mind accidentally wrote his name on the line up card. For that reason Ryan had to pitch to one batter that day before sitting down.
After that day, Williams would no longer speak to the press x number of hours before game time…
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Post by inger on Jun 6, 2024 16:20:33 GMT -5
There have been 117 3-pitch innings recorder in the NL, including one by Aaron Nola this season.
There have been 86 such innings in the American League, including Clayton Beeter’s.., also this season.
Prior to Beeter’s, the last two times a Yankee did it were by Mariano Rivera, in 2003 AND in 2001…
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Post by inger on Jun 6, 2024 16:22:58 GMT -5
"This young man (John Candelaria) I predict is going to be heard from for many years. I don't know if I've ever seen a pitcher with more talent at his age (21). He has remarkable poise not only for a youngster, but for anyone." - Murtaugh, Danny. Pittsburgh Pirates Manager (1957-1976). Young Lefty Pitching Talent Flourishes in the Majors. Baseball Digest. May 1976...
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Post by inger on Jun 6, 2024 16:28:01 GMT -5
When Max Muncy hit 3 HR in a game this season, he was the 29th Dodger to do so…
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Post by inger on Jun 6, 2024 16:30:38 GMT -5
MLB Rookie of the Month: Luis Gil (AL) and Joey Ortiz (NL).
MLB Reliever of the Month: Emmanuel Clase (AL) and Robert Suarez (NL).
MLB Player of the Month: Aaron Judge (AL) and Bryce Harper (NL).
MLB Pitcher of the Month: Luis Gil (AL) and Chris Sale (NL).
2024 MLB Player of the Week: Juan Soto (AL) & Willy Adames (NL).
Are we really THIS good? …
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