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Post by inger on Jun 8, 2023 14:34:44 GMT -5
I think so, too. But if I recall his was passed off as something minor. Then he came back and played (poorly) on it and it was determined to be more serious. All in all, I wish Judge had “Abreu’d” the wall all together and let the runs in, but he wouldn’t be Aaron Judge if he did that… Yea I'm not sure who is in the right here if it really is minor and the Yankees are making a big deal of this or it's really as bad as they are treating it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Only time will tell. I do think the IL was the right decision. Know what’s going on before the injury gets worse… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 8, 2023 16:13:46 GMT -5
According to Boone injury is on side of toe while DJ was bottom of toe which is worse.
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Post by inger on Jun 8, 2023 17:25:42 GMT -5
What started out as a Judge worship thread has turned into “Toe Talk.”…
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 27, 2023 21:29:50 GMT -5
Happy to post in this thread again...
Judge had such a great start that he could STILL finish 2nd in HRS for the AL. He is 8th with 19 HRS and 2nd is Luis Robert with 28.
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Post by inger on Jul 27, 2023 23:07:25 GMT -5
Happy to post in this thread again... Judge had such a great start that he could STILL finish 2nd in HRS for the AL. He is 8th with 19 HRS and 2nd is Luis Robert with 28. Technically, he could still finish first if (Get this part) Ohtani stubs his toe… 🤓 |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 27, 2023 23:20:10 GMT -5
Happy to post in this thread again... Judge had such a great start that he could STILL finish 2nd in HRS for the AL. He is 8th with 19 HRS and 2nd is Luis Robert with 28. Technically, he could still finish first if (Get this part) Ohtani stubs his toe… 🤓 I'm so tired of Ohtani lol. Arguing with twitter trolls right now that Ohtani is the greatest hitter in MLB history. He's not even the greatest hitter statistically this season...plus Judge STILL lead more categories in MLB last year he led 9 and Ohtani is at 7 right now. Judge also competed for the batting title which Ohtani is .20 off of and has 6 people ahead of him. Plus I'm sure every hitter would love to not play a position 90% of their games. Then the argument today is greatest season in MLB history? How Ted Williams hit .400 Barry Bonds had 73 HRS In both those seasons their stats in other categories were also insane. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 27, 2023 23:41:21 GMT -5
Anyway lets hope Judge can come back and get another player of the week/month like he was doing when he left off.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 28, 2023 4:21:18 GMT -5
Technically, he could still finish first if (Get this part) Ohtani stubs his toe… 🤓 I'm so tired of Ohtani lol. Arguing with twitter trolls right now that Ohtani is the greatest hitter in MLB history. He's not even the greatest hitter statistically this season...plus Judge STILL lead more categories in MLB last year he led 9 and Ohtani is at 7 right now. Judge also competed for the batting title which Ohtani is .20 off of and has 6 people ahead of him. Plus I'm sure every hitter would love to not play a position 90% of their games. Then the argument today is greatest season in MLB history? How Ted Williams hit .400 Barry Bonds had 73 HRS In both those seasons their stats in other categories were also insane. I admit I don't get the anti-Ohtani feelings. Yeah, the media is non-stop on the adulation, I get being sick of that. No, I don't think there was any doubt Judge was MVP last year. But it's also true that nobody has ever done what Ohtani is doing right now. He's among the top hitters and pitchers in the league simultaneously. When The Bambino became a position player, he started pitching much less frequently. I watched a good bit of that Angels-Tigers doubleheader yesterday. A one-hit shutout in game one and two home runs in game two. Yes, I remember seeing Rick Wise throw a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the same game, but he was neither one of the best pitchers or hitters of his day. Ohtani does stuff like this all the time. I sure never saw anything like it. Plus he seems like a decent guy and a good teammate. I'm not saying he's the greatest player who ever lived -- he'd have to keep this up for a few more years to get into that discussion -- but I do believe that he is a phenomenon that none of us have ever seen. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 28, 2023 8:34:11 GMT -5
Technically, he could still finish first if (Get this part) Ohtani stubs his toe… 🤓 I'm so tired of Ohtani lol. Arguing with twitter trolls right now that Ohtani is the greatest hitter in MLB history. He's not even the greatest hitter statistically this season...plus Judge STILL lead more categories in MLB last year he led 9 and Ohtani is at 7 right now. Judge also competed for the batting title which Ohtani is .20 off of and has 6 people ahead of him. Plus I'm sure every hitter would love to not play a position 90% of their games. Then the argument today is greatest season in MLB history? How Ted Williams hit .400 Barry Bonds had 73 HRS In both those seasons their stats in other categories were also insane. I don't think Ohtani (or Judge) has played long enough yet to be included in a best hitter of all time list. But player and hitter are two different things and the pitching/hitter combo at an elite level will surely put Ohtani on the best player of all time list. Where he ranks, who knows? But he's going to be on the list. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 28, 2023 9:28:56 GMT -5
I'm so tired of Ohtani lol. Arguing with twitter trolls right now that Ohtani is the greatest hitter in MLB history. He's not even the greatest hitter statistically this season...plus Judge STILL lead more categories in MLB last year he led 9 and Ohtani is at 7 right now. Judge also competed for the batting title which Ohtani is .20 off of and has 6 people ahead of him. Plus I'm sure every hitter would love to not play a position 90% of their games. Then the argument today is greatest season in MLB history? How Ted Williams hit .400 Barry Bonds had 73 HRS In both those seasons their stats in other categories were also insane. I admit I don't get the anti-Ohtani feelings. Yeah, the media is non-stop on the adulation, I get being sick of that. No, I don't think there was any doubt Judge was MVP last year. But it's also true that nobody has ever done what Ohtani is doing right now. He's among the top hitters and pitchers in the league simultaneously. When The Bambino became a position player, he started pitching much less frequently. I watched a good bit of that Angels-Tigers doubleheader yesterday. A one-hit shutout in game one and two home runs in game two. Yes, I remember seeing Rick Wise throw a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the same game, but he was neither one of the best pitchers or hitters of his day. Ohtani does stuff like this all the time. I sure never saw anything like it. Plus he seems like a decent guy and a good teammate. I'm not saying he's the greatest player who ever lived -- he'd have to keep this up for a few more years to get into that discussion -- but I do believe that he is a phenomenon that none of us have ever seen. I just get annoyed at the "greatest season ever argument" when you have seasons like Ted Williams .400, 30 win pitchers, and Barry bonds 2001-2004 existing. Sure what Ohtani is doing is amazing but the stats of all the players I just mentioned are way better than anything ohtani has put up this far. Plus a lot of these guys had to do that while also playing a position every game. Their numbers would prob be even better if they could DH like Ohtani does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by acuraman on Jul 28, 2023 9:40:34 GMT -5
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Post by acuraman on Jul 28, 2023 10:08:15 GMT -5
too much hype for Ohtani, put him in the AL East and lets see his numbers. He one-hit the Tigers like German no hit the A's. I'm not a Ohtani fan.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 28, 2023 10:12:24 GMT -5
too much hype for Ohtani, put him in the AL East and lets see his numbers. He one-hit the Tigers like German no hit the A's. I'm not a Ohtani fan. ^^ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 28, 2023 10:36:39 GMT -5
I’m with pipps on this one. Ohtani is something special: one of the best hitters and pitchers in the league simultaneously a feat that hasn’t been done since Ruth. Plus he seems humble, an easy guy to root for. I only get annoyed by the fact that he wants to stay on the west coast and doesn’t want to come to the Yankees.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 28, 2023 11:08:02 GMT -5
I admit I don't get the anti-Ohtani feelings. Yeah, the media is non-stop on the adulation, I get being sick of that. No, I don't think there was any doubt Judge was MVP last year. But it's also true that nobody has ever done what Ohtani is doing right now. He's among the top hitters and pitchers in the league simultaneously. When The Bambino became a position player, he started pitching much less frequently. I watched a good bit of that Angels-Tigers doubleheader yesterday. A one-hit shutout in game one and two home runs in game two. Yes, I remember seeing Rick Wise throw a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the same game, but he was neither one of the best pitchers or hitters of his day. Ohtani does stuff like this all the time. I sure never saw anything like it. Plus he seems like a decent guy and a good teammate. I'm not saying he's the greatest player who ever lived -- he'd have to keep this up for a few more years to get into that discussion -- but I do believe that he is a phenomenon that none of us have ever seen. I just get annoyed at the "greatest season ever argument" when you have seasons like Ted Williams .400, 30 win pitchers, and Barry bonds 2001-2004 existing. Sure what Ohtani is doing is amazing but the stats of all the players I just mentioned are way better than anything ohtani has put up this far. Plus a lot of these guys had to do that while also playing a position every game. Their numbers would prob be even better if they could DH like Ohtani does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well we can certainly agree that "greatest season ever" would be a stretch at this point, Anthony. Just looking at position player WAR for a single season, the top three seasons all belong to the same guy, Babe Ruth. He put up 14.1 in 1923, 12.9 in 1921 and 12.6 in 1927. In fact six of the top thirteen single-season WAR totals for position players are held by Ruth. So when you're looking for all-time anything, you always start with The Sultan of Swat. Number four BTW might surprise some people -- Carl Yastrzemski's 12.4 in 1967. Not a total shock to me -- I remember it well, and I do not believe I have ever seen one player carry a pennant-winning team single-handedly the way Yaz did in that year. Of course I have no doubt that Babe in 21 and 23 did the same for the Yankees -- until Gehrig and Lazzeri and later Dickey came along in the mid-20s, Ruth was almost the whole show for the first Yankee pennant winners. As of today, Ohtani has a 7.5 WAR as a position player, so it seems unlikely that he could match Babe's 1923. However, he also has a 2.8 WAR as a pitcher, putting him at 10.3 with not quite 2/3 of the season over. He could blow his arm out tomorrow and it would all be over, but if he didn't play another game this year his total WAR would be tied for 44th with Ruth's 1930 and Sosa's (cough cough) 2001. BTW Bonds and his little helpers had two years in the top 20 -- his 2001 ties Babe for sixth at 11.9 and his 2002 ranks ninth at 11.7. These two seasons came when he was 36 and 37 years old. The only non-Bonds seasons in the top 100 where a player was over 34 belong to Ruth -- he is tied for 29th with 10.5 at his age 36 season and tied for 44th at 10.3 in his age 35 season. Bonds's top three seasons came at ages 36, 37 and 39. Make of that what you will. |
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