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Post by noetsi on Jul 11, 2024 10:17:34 GMT -5
I think the only way we will be an elite team is to build a really good farm system. Which free agency works against. So I would cut out the free agency and accept it will be a while to you reach the WS.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2024 21:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 11, 2024 22:02:47 GMT -5
That would be such a Cashman move to trade for a guy that hasn't been an infielder in two years and play him in the infield. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 12, 2024 8:56:21 GMT -5
I think the only way we will be an elite team is to build a really good farm system. Which free agency works against. So I would cut out the free agency and accept it will be a while to you reach the WS. I am fine with getting away from free agency and long term deals but I am not sure the Yankees have the talent identification and development system to make it work. Only a small number of draft choices have much of an impact in pro ball. And the same is true of the "international free agents" who sign with so much ballyhoo each year. Remember when the Yankees went on thier spending spree in 2014 ? I think the FO is a very ordninary group of guys...and so are their results. www.baseballamerica.com/stories/how-often-do-first-rounders-make-the-big-leagues/prospects365.com/2020/03/30/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-2014-international-signing-class/ |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 12, 2024 9:04:34 GMT -5
I think the only way we will be an elite team is to build a really good farm system. Which free agency works against. So I would cut out the free agency and accept it will be a while to you reach the WS. Believe it or not, the Yankees have a top ten farm system, according to a lot of people that track such things. A lot of these prospects are in the lower levels and aren't major league ready yet and the ones that are, can't stay healthy. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 12, 2024 10:57:14 GMT -5
I think the only way we will be an elite team is to build a really good farm system. Which free agency works against. So I would cut out the free agency and accept it will be a while to you reach the WS. Believe it or not, the Yankees have a top ten farm system, according to a lot of people that track such things. A lot of these prospects are in the lower levels and aren't major league ready yet and the ones that are, can't stay healthy. I suspect a lot of those ratings are not much more than smoke. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 12, 2024 11:05:37 GMT -5
I think the only way we will be an elite team is to build a really good farm system. Which free agency works against. So I would cut out the free agency and accept it will be a while to you reach the WS. I am fine with getting away from free agency and long term deals but I am not sure the Yankees have the talent identification and development system to make it work. Only a small number of draft choices have much of an impact in pro ball. And the same is true of the "international free agents" who sign with so much ballyhoo each year. Remember when the Yankees went on thier spending spree in 2014 ? I think the FO is a very ordninary group of guys...and so are their results. www.baseballamerica.com/stories/how-often-do-first-rounders-make-the-big-leagues/prospects365.com/2020/03/30/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-2014-international-signing-class/I remember and I agree with everything you say. But you have to start somewhere. Analyzing the other problems with the system certainly needs to occur. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 12, 2024 11:07:22 GMT -5
Believe it or not, the Yankees have a top ten farm system, according to a lot of people that track such things. A lot of these prospects are in the lower levels and aren't major league ready yet and the ones that are, can't stay healthy. I suspect a lot of those ratings are not much more than smoke. The yankees have a long history of "super" talent that ended up being nothing. Probably other teams do as well, but it is on the Yankees I notice it. Anjudar comes to mind. From an awesome hitter to out of baseball in a few years. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 12, 2024 11:13:37 GMT -5
I suspect a lot of those ratings are not much more than smoke. The yankees have a long history of "super" talent that ended up being nothing. Probably other teams do as well, but it is on the Yankees I notice it. Anjudar comes to mind. From an awesome hitter to out of baseball in a few years. Andujar plays for the A's and is hitting .289. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 12, 2024 11:18:25 GMT -5
I suspect a lot of those ratings are not much more than smoke. The yankees have a long history of "super" talent that ended up being nothing. Probably other teams do as well, but it is on the Yankees I notice it. Anjudar comes to mind. From an awesome hitter to out of baseball in a few years. Andujar is still in MLB, playing with the A's. He's actually having a decent year offensively. Injuries, of course, derailed his career, although his defense @ 3B left a lot to be desired. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 12, 2024 11:33:37 GMT -5
The yankees have a long history of "super" talent that ended up being nothing. Probably other teams do as well, but it is on the Yankees I notice it. Anjudar comes to mind. From an awesome hitter to out of baseball in a few years. Andujar plays for the A's and is hitting .289. Nice batting avg., but only 3 HR's and 7 walks. At least he's still in the big leagues. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 12, 2024 11:48:18 GMT -5
I suspect a lot of those ratings are not much more than smoke. The yankees have a long history of "super" talent that ended up being nothing. Probably other teams do as well, but it is on the Yankees I notice it. Anjudar comes to mind. From an awesome hitter to out of baseball in a few years. Interesting topic and one I think about a lot. I have the impression the Yankees like to take big swings in the draft. I think they draft a lot of high ceiling/low floor guys. I think that is sometimes reflected in our farm system often being higher rated than it's actual production. For awhile we seemed to also take alot of HS players early because we want to develop them. This can be risky because you dont have as much information on how they might progress. I've also wondered about our player development. I don't have a feel for if we are any good at this or not. Cash is a guy who I always thought was a follower. If a trend starts to emerge he will shift to it and at times stubbornly try to make it work even if he is forcing square pegs into round holes. Just a feeling I have from reading several articles and comments, if I had to defend this position in a debate I probably couldn't. |
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Post by Max on Jul 12, 2024 13:47:10 GMT -5
That would be such a Cashman move to trade for a guy that hasn't been an infielder in two years and play him in the infield. In my opinion, a trade for Jazz Chisholm should be to play him in CF instead of Grisham. He would also an upgrade leading off for the Yankees even though his OBP is only slightly above average so far this season.
Not sure what player(s) the Marlins would want from the Yankees. Such a trade might also include one of the Marlins' lefty relief pitchers.
Just my 2 cents, but I still think that the Yankees can fix their bullpen issues by promoting Effross and Neely.
Lastly, I heard on Broadway that Jazz is "all that".   |
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Post by inger on Jul 12, 2024 13:51:22 GMT -5
Chisholm is talented, but perpetually injured. I think I’d run away from that unless he’s almost free…
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Post by Max on Jul 12, 2024 13:52:04 GMT -5
3) None of the above.
A team with Cole, Judge, and Soto on their roster shouldn't even be thinking about rebuilding. In my opinion, the Yankees changing managers in the middle of the season isn't going to make a difference, because the Yankees will still have the same flaws and the same players on the IL.
In my opinion, if the Yankees don't make to the AL Championship Series, Hal will probably hire a new manager. Also in my opinion, that new manager isn't going to make a difference unless the Yankees fix the flaws on their team.
I think in the modern era managers are of limited impact. Most things are outside their control. I agree. In my opinion, in today's MLB firing a manager won't make much of a difference unless a manager lost his clubhouse. |
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