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Post by kaybli on Jul 17, 2024 15:44:41 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Jul 17, 2024 16:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Jul 17, 2024 16:06:25 GMT -5
Rays don't care about trading within the division. They'll take the best offer. It'll probably cost Spencer Jones, whom I'm not a big believer in due to his strikeout issues. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 17, 2024 16:16:13 GMT -5
If the Rays want Jones that should be all the proof you need that the guy is a real prospect.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 18, 2024 9:12:17 GMT -5
If Spencer Jones or Jassson Dominguez is moved in a deal that results in the Yankee WS win this year....and goes on to a HOF career with an AL rival...How many folks think the price is acceptable ?
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Post by kaybli on Jul 18, 2024 9:13:47 GMT -5
If Spencer Jones or Jassson Dominguez is moved in a deal that results in the Yankee WS win this year....and goes on to a HOF career with an AL rival...How many folks think the price is acceptable ? Acceptable. Dominguez won't be moved though at least according to what I've read from those covering the team. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 18, 2024 9:20:07 GMT -5
I'd move Jones as part of a package for the right player, like Crochet but not Dominquez. Jasson is going to be the Yankees starting LF next year and hopefully by then he'll over this injury jinx he's been going through.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 18, 2024 9:32:12 GMT -5
I'd move Jones as part of a package for the right player, like Crochet but not Dominquez. Jasson is going to be the Yankees starting LF next year and hopefully by then he'll over this injury jinx he's been going through. I have all the same concerns about Crochet that I have for Gil. Each guy is going to be swimming in uncharted waters after the AS break. Increasing a guy's innings by 170 or so year over year ? Not me. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 18, 2024 9:42:28 GMT -5
I'd move Jones as part of a package for the right player, like Crochet but not Dominquez. Jasson is going to be the Yankees starting LF next year and hopefully by then he'll over this injury jinx he's been going through. I have all the same concerns about Crochet that I have for Gil. Each guy is going to be swimming in uncharted waters after the AS break. Increasing a guy's innings by 170 or so year over year ? Not me. Detroit's Tarik Skubal is being mentioned as a player who might be available for the right price. He is probably the best SP on the market if he is indeed available. I think it would take quite a haul to get him but he is a young top of the rotation arm. Not sure we could or would be willing to put together the right package for him, my fear is the Birds can and will. |
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Post by JEGnj on Jul 18, 2024 10:55:47 GMT -5
Dominguez or Jones are not getting traded UNLESS there is a deal with Soto. They are the fallback insurance if he leaves.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 18, 2024 11:38:55 GMT -5
I have all the same concerns about Crochet that I have for Gil. Each guy is going to be swimming in uncharted waters after the AS break. Increasing a guy's innings by 170 or so year over year ? Not me. Detroit's Tarik Skubal is being mentioned as a player who might be available for the right price. He is probably the best SP on the market if he is indeed available. I think it would take quite a haul to get him but he is a young top of the rotation arm. Not sure we could or would be willing to put together the right package for him, my fear is the Birds can and will. And again I will mention that the guy never got to 150 innings in a season...and that was in the year after he pitched 32. He is already at 116 or this year. Are you confident he'll be post season ready after he logs another 60 innings ? I ain't. Adding depth is never a bad idea when it comes to pitching but I think the idea of adding a top of the rotation starter is foolish. I'd rather get a couple of depth pieces. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 18, 2024 12:41:47 GMT -5
Detroit's Tarik Skubal is being mentioned as a player who might be available for the right price. He is probably the best SP on the market if he is indeed available. I think it would take quite a haul to get him but he is a young top of the rotation arm. Not sure we could or would be willing to put together the right package for him, my fear is the Birds can and will. And again I will mention that the guy never got to 150 innings in a season...and that was in the year after he pitched 32. He is already at 116 or this year. Are you confident he'll be post season ready after he logs another 60 innings ? I ain't. Adding depth is never a bad idea when it comes to pitching but I think the idea of adding a top of the rotation starter is foolish. I'd rather get a couple of depth pieces. I don't know the answer to your question but I think he has as good a chance or even more of being post season ready as Gil, if innings are going to be the measuring gauge. Anyone trading for Skubal is thinking of him as a long term add. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 18, 2024 14:19:36 GMT -5
From MLB Com
Everything you need to know about the 2024 Trade Deadline
July 17th, 2024
With the 2024 Trade Deadline fast approaching, here's everything you need to know.
What time is the MLB Trade Deadline?
• When is the MLB Trade Deadline? For 2024, it is scheduled for July 30 at 6 p.m. ET.
• For many years, the Deadline was always on July 31 at 4 p.m. ET. The Commissioner's Office can now set the Deadline for any date between July 28 and Aug. 3, in an effort to avoid conflicting with games.
What is the MLB Trade Deadline?
The Trade Deadline is the last point during the season at which players on 40-man rosters can be traded from one club to another. Those players may still be placed and claimed on outright waivers, but trades will no longer be permitted after July 30 at 6 p.m. ET. Prior to 2019, July 31 was referred to as the non-waiver Trade Deadline, and players could be traded after that date if they first cleared revocable trade waivers. The August waiver trade period was eliminated in 2019, with MLB moving to a single Deadline.
• Minor Leaguers not on 40-man rosters can still be traded after the Deadline. However, any player must be in an organization by the end of Aug. 31 (whether on the 40-man roster or not) in order to be eligible to appear in the postseason for that club.
Who are the top trade candidates?
Here are just some of the notable players who have been discussed in trade rumors leading up to the Deadline:
• Starting Pitchers: Tyler Anderson (Angels), Garrett Crochet (White Sox), Zach Eflin (Rays), Erick Fedde (White Sox), Jack Flaherty (Tigers), Yusei Kikuchi (Blue Jays), Cal Quantrill (Rockies), Tarik Skubal (Tigers)
• Relief Pitchers: Carlos Estévez (Angels), Andrew Chafin (Tigers), Pete Fairbanks (Rays), Kyle Finnegan (Nationals), Michael Kopech (White Sox), Mason Miller (Athletics), Trevor Richards (Blue Jays), Tanner Scott (Marlins)
• Position players: Randy Arozarena (Rays), Bo Bichette (Blue Jays), Jazz Chisholm Jr. (Marlins), Paul DeJong (White Sox), Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (Blue Jays), Danny Jansen (Blue Jays), Isaac Paredes (Rays), Tommy Pham (White Sox), Kevin Pillar (Angels), Luis Robert Jr. (White Sox), Brent Rooker (Athletics), Taylor Ward (Angels), Jesse Winker (Nationals)
What are the key storylines to watch?
What will the Blue Jays do?
The Blue Jays are perhaps the most intriguing team to watch leading up to the Trade Deadline. Toronto is a likely seller with many enticing assets to trade, but it’s unclear how many players the club will end up moving.
Pending free agents such as starter Yusei Kikuchi, Catcher Danny Jansen and Reliever Trevor Richards are the most obvious candidates to be dealt, but the team also has a number of veteran starters (including Chris Bassitt and Kevin Gausman) signed beyond 2024, who would likely bring back strong returns, given the demand for arms and the lack of available options in that marketplace. Then there’s 1st baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and shortstop Bo Bichette, both of whom can become free agents after 2025. It remains to be seen if Toronto will stick to trading rentals and try to retool its roster with an eye on contending next season, or if its summer sale will be more extensive than that.
How far will the White Sox go in selling? And what about the A's?
It's been clear for a while that the White Sox were going to be Trade Deadline sellers this year. But as is the case with the Blue Jays, we don't know how far they'll go in selling. Veterans such as starter Erick Fedde (signed through 2025), outfielder Tommy Pham (pending free agent), shortstop Paul DeJong (pending free agent) and closer Michael Kopech (controllable through 2025) seem likely to go. But will the White Sox look to capitalize on this seller's market and deal ace pitcher Garrett Crochet (controllable through 2026) and/or outfielder Luis Robert Jr. (signed through 2025 with 2026-27 club options) as well?
Oakland, meanwhile, is more likely than not to trade slugging outfielder Brent Rooker, who is controllable through 2027 but doesn't exactly fit into the rebuilding team's timeline, considering he'll turn 30 in November. But what about Mason Miller (controllable through 2029)? Will any contender meet the A's lofty asking price for the flamethrowing closer?
Which way will these bubble teams go?
The Astros, Mets, Red Sox, Cardinals and D-backs have all rebounded from slow starts, thinning the list of potential Trade Deadline sellers. That said, there are still a number of teams on the postseason bubble whose Trade Deadline path has yet to be determined.
The defending World Series-champion Rangers are in that bucket, as are the Rays, Reds, Cubs and Giants.
Will we see a big surprise in the SP market?
With the demand for starting pitching greatly outweighing the supply, the stage could be set for a Trade Deadline stunner involving one of the best pitchers in baseball. The chances are still against Tigers ace Tarik Skubal being traded, but in this environment, it’s possible a desperate contender will put together a prospect package that entices Detroit to deal the left-hander, who is controllable through 2026.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 18, 2024 14:38:00 GMT -5
Will Yanks’ Deadline list transform second half? Juan Soto fulfilled his end of a promise to Aaron Judge in the 1st inning of Tuesday’s All-Star Game, working a 7-pitch walk, so the Yankees captain would have an opportunity to face Paul Skenes, the fireballing Pirates phenom, who drew the starting nod for the National League.
It was a power vs. power showdown, and Judge said his plan was to see something in the zone and barrel it somewhere. Skenes challenged Judge with a 99.7 mph fastball, which Judge chopped to 3rd base for an inning-ending groundout. The captain hopes that the Yankees’ decision-makers will have much more success swinging big ahead of the July 30th Trade Deadline.
“As the Yankees, we’re going to try to put ourselves in the best position,” Judge told reporters at Globe Life Field. “It’s the front office’s job to fill the holes where we need them. We’ve had a great group so far, and we’ll take any help we can get.”
It’s a group that came out of the gates strong, becoming the Majors’ 1st team to reach 50 victories, then limped toward the All-Star break with an 8-18 record.
Their final game before the break was a heartbreaker. Presented with an opportunity to rattle off a 3-game sweep of the Orioles in Baltimore, the Bombers endured a 9-inning collapse that saw Clay Holmes blow a save behind misplays from Anthony Volpe and Alex Verdugo.
Yet for all of the warts that the June swoon exposed, the Yankees are in postseason position as they open the 2nd half, on pace for 95 victories with the American League’s 3rd-best winning percentage and 1 game behind Baltimore in the division.
General Manager Brian Cashman’s shopping list is longer than it might have been a month ago. There has been little production beyond Judge, Soto and rookie Ben Rice (the Yankees' No. 12 prospect). Though the pending returns of Giancarlo Stanton and Jon Berti should provide some assistance, Cashman will look to add at least 1 bat to lengthen the lineup. They are thought to have interest in the Marlins’ Jazz Chisholm Jr., who (not coincidentally) has been moved back to 2nd base from the outfield.
The rotation, which performed so admirably while ace Gerrit Cole recovered from a right elbow injury, has stalled. While Carlos Rodón, Marcus Stroman and Nestor Cortes stumbled into the break, Luis Gil offered encouraging signs in his pas t2 starts, showcasing an improved slider that he tweaked by borrowing a grip from former teammate Luis Severino.
Since Gil may finish the season in the bullpen and Clarke Schmidt is still several weeks away from a return, starting pitching is on the radar. A published report suggested that New York has expressed interest in Garrett Crochet of the White Sox, though Chicago insisted upon outfield prospect Spencer Jones (the Yankees' No. 2 prospect, No. 74 overall) in return.
Given the Yanks’ apparent unwillingness to part with Jones or Jasson Domínguez (New York's No. 1 prospect, No. 25 overall), they might focus on improving a shaky relief crew that sorely needs someone who can escape jams with strikeouts. Mason Miller of the Athletics, Tanner Scott of the Marlins and Carlos Estévez of the Angels could all fit that bill nicely.
“We have really talented teams that we’re facing every day, so they’re not going to cut us a break,” Cashman said. “We’ve just got to figure our way through this ourselves, and then hopefully we can add some outside pieces that will benefit us at some point.”
Second-half goal: Turn back the clock
When the Yankees woke in their Boston hotel on the morning of June 15th, they owned baseball’s best record at 50-22, also pacing the Majors in ERA (2.94) and runs scored (371). It was then, as Cashman said, that a light switch flipped -- the season took a 180-degree turn, with the Bombers winning just 8 of their next 26 games. Manager Aaron Boone said he saw positive signs during the club’s final road trip going into the break. To hold off the Orioles and claim the division, they’ll need to recapture that early-season form.
Trade Deadline strategy: Help wanted
The Yankees might have too many issues to fix in one Trade Deadline period, but they’ll certainly try -- after all, this is their only guaranteed year with Soto. Even before their June slide, there was a clear need for a swing-and-miss arm in the bullpen. That remains an issue, and they could deal for 1 or 2 relievers. Underperformance (Rodón, Cortes, Stroman, plus Gil for 3 starts) and injury (Schmidt) has dinged the rotation, so New York might also try to deal for a starting pitcher. There’s also a need for an infielder, with DJ LeMahieu and Gleyber Torres, both having been underwhelming.
Key player: OF Aaron Judge
Stop us if you’ve heard this before -- Judge is chasing HR history while attempting to carry the Yankees to the postseason. Yes, as Yogi Berra might have said, this feels like déjà vu all over again. While Judge takes aim at his own single-season American League home run record (he enters the 2nd half on pace for 57), the captain’s team is trying to ward off the type of skid that turned the latter half of 2022 into a 1-man show. The difference this time is that Judge has a Robin to his Batman -- and quite a formidable one -- in Soto.
Prospect to watch: OF Jasson Domínguez
Timing is everything, and if not for a left oblique strain, “The Martian” might be playing a starring role in the Bombers’ lineup right now. The Yanks did not see a path to give their top prospect at-bats with Alex Verdugo, Judge, Soto and Stanton healthy. Playing for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Domínguez was injured on a June 15th check swing and Stanton strained his left hamstring a week later. Though Domínguez isn’t expected to be available until late August, he’d provide a significant upgrade for a lineup lacking length from the cleanup spot down.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 18, 2024 15:22:43 GMT -5
Saw an analyst speculating the Yankees could go after DeJong and move him to 3rd base. Since he's a SS, I assume he would be a good defensive player. He has a little pop with 16 hrs but he is a low BA guy who Ks a lot. I wouldn't do it.
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