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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 20, 2024 8:38:07 GMT -5
Speaking of lineup changes, not sure Rice is a leadoff guy. Since being moved into the leadoff spot he seems to have lost some of his plate discipline. A lot of chasing and swings and misses. I hope he hasn't become HR Happy, a disease that seems to infect Yankee hitters from time to time.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 20, 2024 8:48:08 GMT -5
Speaking of lineup changes, not sure Rice is a leadoff guy. Since being moved into the leadoff spot he seems to have lost some of his plate discipline. A lot of chasing and swings and misses. I hope he hasn't become HR Happy, a disease that seems to infect Yankee hitters from time to time. I don't think anyone ever saw Rice as a leadoff guy. It says a lot more about the roster challenges in '24 than his abilities. I am ready to do a Billy Martin and draw the name of the leadoff batter out of a hat before each game.
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 20, 2024 8:51:14 GMT -5
Speaking of lineup changes, not sure Rice is a leadoff guy. Since being moved into the leadoff spot he seems to have lost some of his plate discipline. A lot of chasing and swings and misses. I hope he hasn't become HR Happy, a disease that seems to infect Yankee hitters from time to time. Problem is Yanks have no "traditional" leadoff hitter on the roster, and unless a trade is made, won't until next year.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 20, 2024 8:55:59 GMT -5
Speaking of lineup changes, not sure Rice is a leadoff guy. Since being moved into the leadoff spot he seems to have lost some of his plate discipline. A lot of chasing and swings and misses. I hope he hasn't become HR Happy, a disease that seems to infect Yankee hitters from time to time. Problem is Yanks have no "traditional" leadoff hitter on the roster, and unless a trade is made, won't until next year. I know this was mentioned before, but Soto might be a very good leadoff hitter. That would allow Judge to go back to the 2 hole. I guess the problem would then shift to who hits 3 and 4.
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 20, 2024 8:58:23 GMT -5
Problem is Yanks have no "traditional" leadoff hitter on the roster, and unless a trade is made, won't until next year. I know this was mentioned before, but Soto might be a very good leadoff hitter. That would allow Judge to go back to the 2 hole. I guess the problem would then shift to who hits 3 and 4. That's exactly what I was gonna suggest. They could move Wells to 3, then follow with R/L hitters...
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Post by bumper on Jul 20, 2024 9:04:18 GMT -5
I don't want to be spitting venom on the guy batting 4th in the batting order. The numbers tell me that Verdugo has 10 home runs in 400 pa. The numbers tell me that Bauers and Calhoun combined for 17 in 421 pa in 2023. Verdugo, hitting behind two of the greatest obp guys in baseball, has 38 rbi. In the same number of pa Bauer and Calhoun added up to 46. I hope Verdugo puts up MVP numbers for the rest of the year. I don't "hate" the guy. But his numbers are BAD. I'm not sure why Verdugo is struggling at the plate so much. When he played against us he always seemed to be a tough out, how many 8 or 10 pitch ABs that would result in a hit. Doesn't seem as patient and he seems pull happy. I haven't given up on him figuring it out because he's been too good of a hitter in his career but this has been a long dry spell. When I played softball we had a guy who flew out to LF every AB. His nickname was F7,, I think right now, Verdugos nickname should be 4-3. yup verdugo's in massive slump extending over a month now. on june 14 was hitting .266 w 9 HR 41 RBI .757 OPS.13.7% K rate. after a slow start, more or less in-line w his career stats. in 26 games since hitting .158 w 1 HR 5 RBI .431 OPS 20% K rate. terrible ...
not sure how he gets fixed. do remember around that time, he ran into the wall hard making a catch. wondering if there's any effect from that.
at this point, do like the idea of wells batting cleanup. he can play everyday. DH'ing on the days he doesn't catch.
wonder if rice has gotten HR happy. since hitting 3 in one game, he's 3-32 K'ing 41% of the time. not exactly leadoff material. maybe move gleyber back there.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 20, 2024 9:08:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure why Verdugo is struggling at the plate so much. When he played against us he always seemed to be a tough out, how many 8 or 10 pitch ABs that would result in a hit. Doesn't seem as patient and he seems pull happy. I haven't given up on him figuring it out because he's been too good of a hitter in his career but this has been a long dry spell. When I played softball we had a guy who flew out to LF every AB. His nickname was F7,, I think right now, Verdugos nickname should be 4-3. yup verdugo's in massive slump extending over a month now. on june 14 was hitting .266 w 9 HR 41 RBI .757 OPS.13.7% K rate. after a slow start, more or less in-line w his career stats. in 26 games since hitting .158 w 1 HR 5 RBI .431 OPS 20% K rate. terrible ...
not sure how he gets fixed. do remember around that time, he ran into the wall hard making a catch. wondering if there's any effect from that.
at this point, do like the idea of wells batting cleanup. he can play everyday. DH'ing on the days he doesn't catch.
wonder if rice has gotten HR happy. since hitting 3 in one game, he's 3-32 K'ing 41% of the time. not exactly leadoff material. maybe move gleyber back there. While Gleyber has been struggling, I always thought he was a more patient hitter when batting leadoff. I just wish he ran better but I guess you can't have anything. Bumper, do you prefer Gibson or Strat?
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Post by qimqam on Jul 20, 2024 9:24:49 GMT -5
I know this was mentioned before, but Soto might be a very good leadoff hitter. That would allow Judge to go back to the 2 hole. I guess the problem would then shift to who hits 3 and 4. That's exactly what I was gonna suggest. They could move Wells to 3, then follow with R/L hitters... Gleyber has been at his best batting 3rd and over a fairly large sample size 536 PA 121 Games .283 .355 .485 .840
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Post by qimqam on Jul 20, 2024 9:27:33 GMT -5
yup verdugo's in massive slump extending over a month now. on june 14 was hitting .266 w 9 HR 41 RBI .757 OPS.13.7% K rate. after a slow start, more or less in-line w his career stats. in 26 games since hitting .158 w 1 HR 5 RBI .431 OPS 20% K rate. terrible ...
not sure how he gets fixed. do remember around that time, he ran into the wall hard making a catch. wondering if there's any effect from that.
at this point, do like the idea of wells batting cleanup. he can play everyday. DH'ing on the days he doesn't catch.
wonder if rice has gotten HR happy. since hitting 3 in one game, he's 3-32 K'ing 41% of the time. not exactly leadoff material. maybe move gleyber back there. While Gleyber has been struggling, I always thought he was a more patient hitter when batting leadoff. I just wish he ran better but I guess you can't have anything. Bumper, do you prefer Gibson or Strat? Gleyber batting Leadoff is not pretty (it's his worst position 1-9 in the order) .239 .286 .345 .631
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 20, 2024 9:35:23 GMT -5
Problem is Yanks have no "traditional" leadoff hitter on the roster, and unless a trade is made, won't until next year. I know this was mentioned before, but Soto might be a very good leadoff hitter. That would allow Judge to go back to the 2 hole. I guess the problem would then shift to who hits 3 and 4. At least with this you guarantee Soto and Judge have the most at bats during a game.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 20, 2024 11:00:31 GMT -5
The only way Spto moves in the lineup is if he makes that decision. Since he has only batted lead off twice in his career, I am going to guess he doesn't like the idea. Maybe the Yankees might want to take a flyer on Grisham batting lead off. Since he got into the lineup every day his batting average is a respectable 256 and his obp over 300. Noe exactly HOF numbers but good enough to deserve an audition.
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Post by Max on Jul 20, 2024 11:01:44 GMT -5
I don't know how to fix the guy but that is no reason to deny he is broken. Keeping him batting behind Judge spotlights his struggles. I'd rather have Wells there right now. At least Wells hustles every at bat. Wells should bat cleanup as he is not as predictable as Verdugo. Wells has been much better lately and take a walk when needed. Boone or whomever writes out the Yankees lineup agrees. So far Wells is scheduled to bat 4th in today's Yankee lineup.
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Post by Max on Jul 20, 2024 11:03:28 GMT -5
Interesting. I could see Cashman trying to trade for him while his trade value is low, and see if Blake can get Doval on track. Farhan, the Giants GM, is on the hotseat. Most speculation out here is they will not be sellers if he tries to save his job by making the wildcard. It's unlikely that they will, they are 3 back with several teams ahead of them but they have a roster that is full of holes. 55, I didn't get a chance yesterday to thank you for all the SFG info. Thanks again.
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Post by Max on Jul 20, 2024 11:07:12 GMT -5
Speaking of lineup changes, not sure Rice is a leadoff guy. Since being moved into the leadoff spot he seems to have lost some of his plate discipline. A lot of chasing and swings and misses. I hope he hasn't become HR Happy, a disease that seems to infect Yankee hitters from time to time. I don't think anyone ever saw Rice as a leadoff guy. It says a lot more about the roster challenges in '24 than his abilities. I am ready to do a Billy Martin and draw the name of the leadoff batter out of a hat before each game. A leadoff hitter with speed might be on the Yankees trade wish list along with a reliever, preferably a Closer.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 20, 2024 11:08:14 GMT -5
Wells should bat cleanup as he is not as predictable as Verdugo. Wells has been much better lately and take a walk when needed. Boone or whomever writes out the Yankees lineup agrees. So far Wells is scheduled to bat 4th in today's Yankee lineup. I always suspected the Yankees were keeping tabs on us for our elite insights !!!!
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