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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 19, 2024 17:39:29 GMT -5
think you have to start w a closer before any other conversation. during this 8-18 run, holmes has blown 4 games and allowed runs in 6 of 10. while it sux, one thing to blow a won game in june or july but another to blow one in a 7 game series. does anyone really trust him to close out a big PS game.
also getting a closer bumps holmes to the 7th or 8th where he might thrive, providing depth. also not sure LF is a priority over 3B. though he's slumped mightily, not ready to throw verdugo on the scrap heap. 3B imho is a much bigger priority.
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. I'm not a fan of Verdugo but he is much better defensively than Bauers or Calhoun. Read today thet Berti had a setback. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 19, 2024 17:42:30 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Verdugo but he is much better defensively than Bauers or Calhoun. No comparison. Wasn't long ago Verdugo was being hailed as "the answer" in LF. So fickle.... |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 19, 2024 17:51:18 GMT -5
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Post by desousa on Jul 19, 2024 18:02:41 GMT -5
I presume the Rays are scouting all teams that in the various races. I really don't know what the Yanks have that will drive a big trade. Injuries and down seasons have really hurt the Yankee cupboards. I'm sure some teams are still high on Hampton, but not having Beeter and some of the other hurt pitchers doesn't give them much else. Besides Jones, most of the position tradeable players are in the lower minors, but then again, teams might like them too.
Let's hope Cashman can weave some of his magic.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 19, 2024 18:05:58 GMT -5
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. I'm not a fan of Verdugo but he is much better defensively than Bauers or Calhoun. Read today thet Berti had a setback. I read the same stuff on Berti. It always seems to happen. As for Verdugo, he was brought to New York to hit. He got off to a good start but facts are facts...he's been in a slump for 2/3 of his time in New York. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 19, 2024 18:13:39 GMT -5
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. DJ is no longer a good fielder ... No range and cant bend Can't hit or run either. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 19, 2024 18:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 19, 2024 19:20:15 GMT -5
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. DJ is no longer a good fielder ... No range and cant bend Isn't it almost impossible to assess a fielder unless you are at the game ? My view on YES is from center. I have no idea where guys are positioned, the jump they get on a ball or the route they take to get there. Same thing is true in the infield. By the time a tv fan sees the fielder the ball most plays are made or not. |
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Post by bumper on Jul 19, 2024 19:46:19 GMT -5
think you have to start w a closer before any other conversation. during this 8-18 run, holmes has blown 4 games and allowed runs in 6 of 10. while it sux, one thing to blow a won game in june or july but another to blow one in a 7 game series. does anyone really trust him to close out a big PS game.
also getting a closer bumps holmes to the 7th or 8th where he might thrive, providing depth. also not sure LF is a priority over 3B. though he's slumped mightily, not ready to throw verdugo on the scrap heap. 3B imho is a much bigger priority.
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. don't "luv" verdugo ... but you're comparing verdugo a career .275 hitter with a 15% K rate to bauers a .211 hitter w nearly a 34% K rate last 2 seasons. ok ... indeed he's slumped terribly over the last month but this is a guy who over the 1st couple months, folks were talking signing him after the season. the fallback is the martian who's projected to return by the end of august. they'll live w verdugo until then. in any case, guessing verdugo & LF isn't high on cashman's shopping list with so many other holes.
and berti might be an upgrade over cabrera and DJ but don't think he's the answer at 3B but he's now had a setback.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 19, 2024 20:08:07 GMT -5
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. don't "luv" verdugo ... but you're comparing verdugo a career .275 hitter with a 15% K rate to bauers a .211 hitter w nearly a 34% K rate last 2 seasons. ok ... indeed he's slumped terribly over the last month but this is a guy who over the 1st couple months, folks were talking signing him after the season. the fallback is the martian who's projected to return by the end of august. they'll live w verdugo until then. in any case, guessing verdugo & LF isn't high on cashman's shopping list with so many other holes.
and berti might be an upgrade over cabrera and DJ but don't think he's the answer at 3B but he's now had a setback.
I don't want to be spitting venom on the guy batting 4th in the batting order. The numbers tell me that Verdugo has 10 home runs in 400 pa. The numbers tell me that Bauers and Calhoun combined for 17 in 421 pa in 2023. Verdugo, hitting behind two of the greatest obp guys in baseball, has 38 rbi. In the same number of pa Bauer and Calhoun added up to 46. I hope Verdugo puts up MVP numbers for the rest of the year. I don't "hate" the guy. But his numbers are BAD. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 19, 2024 20:50:25 GMT -5
I don't understand the love for Verdugo. His work in left this year is comparable to that of Bauers or Calhoun. The Yankees have Berti and that could upgrade the offense at 3rd. (DJ still is a good glove.) I don't see a short term upgrade for LF in the system. Please look at Verdugo's numbers. From the little I read about the NL the Nats are open for business and have relievers and outfielders who could help the Yankees. don't "luv" verdugo ... but you're comparing verdugo a career .275 hitter with a 15% K rate to bauers a .211 hitter w nearly a 34% K rate last 2 seasons. ok ... indeed he's slumped terribly over the last month but this is a guy who over the 1st couple months, folks were talking signing him after the season. the fallback is the martian who's projected to return by the end of august. they'll live w verdugo until then. in any case, guessing verdugo & LF isn't high on cashman's shopping list with so many other holes.
and berti might be an upgrade over cabrera and DJ but don't think he's the answer at 3B but he's now had a setback.
After today's report it doesn't sound like the Martian will be back in August either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 19, 2024 21:56:11 GMT -5
DJ is no longer a good fielder ... No range and cant bend Isn't it almost impossible to assess a fielder unless you are at the game ? My view on YES is from center. I have no idea where guys are positioned, the jump they get on a ball or the route they take to get there. Same thing is true in the infield. By the time a tv fan sees the fielder the ball most plays are made or not. That's not true ... DJ is really bad right now. He looks like he is playing with a bad back. No athleticism, no flexability, he's stiff as board offensively and defensively He's one of those players that for some reason we dont want to judge but if you pay attention ... he's really bad all around |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 19, 2024 23:17:38 GMT -5
don't "luv" verdugo ... but you're comparing verdugo a career .275 hitter with a 15% K rate to bauers a .211 hitter w nearly a 34% K rate last 2 seasons. ok ... indeed he's slumped terribly over the last month but this is a guy who over the 1st couple months, folks were talking signing him after the season. the fallback is the martian who's projected to return by the end of august. they'll live w verdugo until then. in any case, guessing verdugo & LF isn't high on cashman's shopping list with so many other holes.
and berti might be an upgrade over cabrera and DJ but don't think he's the answer at 3B but he's now had a setback.
I don't want to be spitting venom on the guy batting 4th in the batting order. The numbers tell me that Verdugo has 10 home runs in 400 pa. The numbers tell me that Bauers and Calhoun combined for 17 in 421 pa in 2023. Verdugo, hitting behind two of the greatest obp guys in baseball, has 38 rbi. In the same number of pa Bauer and Calhoun added up to 46. I hope Verdugo puts up MVP numbers for the rest of the year. I don't "hate" the guy. But his numbers are BAD. I'm not sure why Verdugo is struggling at the plate so much. When he played against us he always seemed to be a tough out, how many 8 or 10 pitch ABs that would result in a hit. Doesn't seem as patient and he seems pull happy. I haven't given up on him figuring it out because he's been too good of a hitter in his career but this has been a long dry spell. When I played softball we had a guy who flew out to LF every AB. His nickname was F7,, I think right now, Verdugos nickname should be 4-3. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 20, 2024 8:16:43 GMT -5
I don't want to be spitting venom on the guy batting 4th in the batting order. The numbers tell me that Verdugo has 10 home runs in 400 pa. The numbers tell me that Bauers and Calhoun combined for 17 in 421 pa in 2023. Verdugo, hitting behind two of the greatest obp guys in baseball, has 38 rbi. In the same number of pa Bauer and Calhoun added up to 46. I hope Verdugo puts up MVP numbers for the rest of the year. I don't "hate" the guy. But his numbers are BAD. I'm not sure why Verdugo is struggling at the plate so much. When he played against us he always seemed to be a tough out, how many 8 or 10 pitch ABs that would result in a hit. Doesn't seem as patient and he seems pull happy. I haven't given up on him figuring it out because he's been too good of a hitter in his career but this has been a long dry spell. When I played softball we had a guy who flew out to LF every AB. His nickname was F7,, I think right now, Verdugos nickname should be 4-3. I don't know how to fix the guy but that is no reason to deny he is broken. Keeping him batting behind Judge spotlights his struggles. I'd rather have Wells there right now. At least Wells hustles every at bat. |
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Post by desousa on Jul 20, 2024 8:26:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure why Verdugo is struggling at the plate so much. When he played against us he always seemed to be a tough out, how many 8 or 10 pitch ABs that would result in a hit. Doesn't seem as patient and he seems pull happy. I haven't given up on him figuring it out because he's been too good of a hitter in his career but this has been a long dry spell. When I played softball we had a guy who flew out to LF every AB. His nickname was F7,, I think right now, Verdugos nickname should be 4-3. I don't know how to fix the guy but that is no reason to deny he is broken. Keeping him batting behind Judge spotlights his struggles. I'd rather have Wells there right now. At least Wells hustles every at bat. Wells should bat cleanup as he is not as predictable as Verdugo. Wells has been much better lately and take a walk when needed. |
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