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Post by chiyankee on Aug 19, 2023 13:21:13 GMT -5
Cole gone after just 4 innings.
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 19, 2023 13:22:02 GMT -5
I really believe that this team would be much better with Cone as the pitching coach and O'Neill as the batting coach. Fundamentals first. Probably but they need a roster overhaul. Blackholes at LF, 3B, C and even DH is too hard to overcome. The blackholes are a direct cause of poor fundamental baseball and adherence to swing planes, rather than contact and throwing rather than pitching. Bunting behind 4-0 with Stanton on first has nothing to do with talent, neither does throwing to the wrong base by a supposedly "great" defensive player, or routinely getting picked off on base, or running into outs at third and home. These types of mistakes lose ball games, especially close ones, which this team has lost a ton of this season.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:25:44 GMT -5
I really believe that this team would be much better with Cone as the pitching coach and O'Neill as the batting coach. Fundamentals first. They have so many people with knolwedge that work for the YES network and use none of it to their advantage to get advice from etc. I remember after a Yankee win against the Red Sox in 2019 I think it was ? Cora credited the Yankees to having Carlos Beltran as an advisor helping the hitters and it making a big difference in improving the offense. I'm not saying Beltran would have that effect now, but point is sometimes changing things up a bit and bringing in different voices does change the morale of the team. The Mariners might have looked crazy getting rid of some of their players including their closer, but it changed Morale enough in the correct direction. Sitting there and doing nothing like the Yankees doesn't help anything. I remember even the 16 team after the "sell off" played better. (I just looked they were still only 2.5 back of the WC on Sept 21). So have to wonder if the Yankees made any moves in any direction would it make the team play better? They didn't even try.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:28:19 GMT -5
Probably but they need a roster overhaul. Blackholes at LF, 3B, C and even DH is too hard to overcome. The blackholes are a direct cause of poor fundamental baseball and adherence to swing planes, rather than contact and throwing rather than pitching. Bunting behind 4-0 with Stanton on first has nothing to do with talent, neither does throwing to the wrong base by a supposedly "great" defensive player, or routinely getting picked off on base, or running into outs at third and home. These types of mistakes lose ball games, especially close ones, which this team has lost a ton of this season. Exactly. I think the Yankees have more talent than the Mariners and if the Mariners with lesser talent can make up 5.5 games in 3 weeks theres no reason the Yankees couldn't have made up 3.5, but when the talent is doing the things you said it just doesn't lead to positive outcomes. So while the Roster construction is bad, it's the not sole reason they didn't get the mariners fate.
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 19, 2023 13:33:00 GMT -5
"Keep your dauber up!" Things like this are why I love Paul O'Neill. Only someone who painted houses or worked with bricks would know a phrase like that. Paul's father or grandfather must have had experience with that kind of work.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:36:05 GMT -5
I just don't understand multiple times this year when the team was teetering towards a black hole the only move they made was the DFA of Calhoun, yet let all the other AAAA players stay up here?
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Post by desousa on Aug 19, 2023 13:36:28 GMT -5
Yanks being no hit after 5. Each game seems like a new low.
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 19, 2023 13:38:21 GMT -5
Rortvedt is now batting .100 on the season in 41 at bats. Estevan Florial has never had over 31 at bats in any season with the Yankees, with only 51 over four different years. The Yankees always seem to give guys from other teams' minor leagues more chances than from their own.
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 19, 2023 13:40:10 GMT -5
Probably but they need a roster overhaul. Blackholes at LF, 3B, C and even DH is too hard to overcome. The blackholes are a direct cause of poor fundamental baseball and adherence to swing planes, rather than contact and throwing rather than pitching. Bunting behind 4-0 with Stanton on first has nothing to do with talent, neither does throwing to the wrong base by a supposedly "great" defensive player, or routinely getting picked off on base, or running into outs at third and home. These types of mistakes lose ball games, especially close ones, which this team has lost a ton of this season. At those positions I think it's simpler than that. It's lack of MLB talent. Some of these guys they're parading out to LF have DFA'd by multiple teams, there is a reason for that. IKF is a utility guy byt he starts almost everyday because they don't have anyone better than him. None of their three catchers should be an everyday player. This team needs better players, the pitchers covered for them for a half of season, but once they started struggling too, the team was finished.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:42:01 GMT -5
Yanks being no hit after 5. Each game seems like a new low. I don't even remember the last time the Yankees lost 7 in a row.
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Post by Renfield on Aug 19, 2023 13:42:54 GMT -5
Rortvedt is now batting .100 on the season in 41 at bats. Estevan Florial has never had over 31 at bats in any season with the Yankees, with only 51 over four different years. The Yankees always seem to give guys from other teams' minor leagues more chances than from their own. Rortvedt makes Trevino look like Yogi Berra. The Mendoza line is a pipe dream for him (and a few others). Another out and he's below .100. Is there a name for that line? The cut line maybe?
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:43:56 GMT -5
The blackholes are a direct cause of poor fundamental baseball and adherence to swing planes, rather than contact and throwing rather than pitching. Bunting behind 4-0 with Stanton on first has nothing to do with talent, neither does throwing to the wrong base by a supposedly "great" defensive player, or routinely getting picked off on base, or running into outs at third and home. These types of mistakes lose ball games, especially close ones, which this team has lost a ton of this season. At those positions I think it's simpler than that. It's lack of MLB talent. Some of these guys they're parading out to LF have DFA'd by multiple teams, there is a reason for that. IKF is a utility guy byt he starts almost everyday because they don't have anyone better than him. None of their three catchers should be an everyday player. This team needs better players, the pitchers covered for them for a half of season, but once they started struggling too, the team was finished. I get what you are saying chi, but I feel like there was enough on the team to make the 3rd WC, but I guess a lot of that also is Toronto never pulled away and allowed teams like Seattle back in it.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:46:22 GMT -5
Toronto is 17-15 since the ASB. Boston is 16-15. Yankees 11-20. Seattle 22-11.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2023 13:48:08 GMT -5
The toe is fine.
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