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Post by rizzuto on Nov 29, 2023 18:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Nov 29, 2023 20:25:48 GMT -5
The man could slip a few tackles, couldn’t he?… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 29, 2023 20:52:56 GMT -5
I know we discussed that Billy Cannon run sometime in the past. It became instantly famous even in its day. Not that it would have been seen live on TV anywhere except possibly in Louisiana and Mississippi, but that eerie dark film clip got played over and over on what passed for TV sports coverage in 1959. Amazing that both squads had allowed only one TD each in their first seven games. Paul Dietzel against Johnny Vaught. Classic football Future Yankee catcher Jake Gibbs, who was the Ole Miss QB, was the guy who punted that ball. One of the most famous plays in college football history. I can't believe it's been 64 years. |
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Post by inger on Nov 29, 2023 22:08:10 GMT -5
I know we discussed that Billy Cannon run sometime in the past. It became instantly famous even in its day. Not that it would have been seen live on TV anywhere except possibly in Louisiana and Mississippi, but that eerie dark film clip got played over and over on what passed for TV sports coverage in 1959. Amazing that both squads had allowed only one TD each in their first seven games. Paul Dietzel against Johnny Vaught. Classic football Future Yankee catcher Jake Gibbs, who was the Ole Miss QB, was the guy who punted that ball. One of the most famous plays in college football history. I can't believe it's been 64 years. The Gibber! Love to hear his name now… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 30, 2023 6:39:45 GMT -5
Nebraska football coach Matt Rhule, who is a good coach and a good guy, was asked if the Cornhuskers would look at the transfer portal as a way to solve their QB problems. He said he preferred to develop from within the program, then added that people needed to understand that it costs between one and two million to get a player through the portal, often for only one year, and that top QBs were going for six to seven million.
Some of these guys are now playing for four different schools in their college careers. This past season Notre Dame got QB Sam Hartman from Wake Forest for his senior year, and now supposedly have the inside track on transferring Duke QB Riley Leonard. The second-tier programs are becoming a farm system for the powerhouses.
College football has never been a model of amateur athletics -- HOF coach John Wilce stepped down at Ohio State in 1928 because he said football had become big business -- but this wide-open transfer situation has created enormous instability. I miss the days when they kept the corruption in-house.
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2023 10:17:44 GMT -5
Nebraska football coach Matt Rhule, who is a good coach and a good guy, was asked if the Cornhuskers would look at the transfer portal as a way to solve their QB problems. He said he preferred to develop from within the program, then added that people needed to understand that it costs between one and two million to get a player through the portal, often for only one year, and that top QBs were going for six to seven million. Some of these guys are now playing for four different schools in their college careers. This past season Notre Dame got QB Sam Hartman from Wake Forest for his senior year, and now supposedly have the inside track on transferring Duke QB Riley Leonard. The second-tier programs are becoming a farm system for the powerhouses. College football has never been a model of amateur athletics -- HOF coach John Wilce stepped down at Ohio State in 1928 because he said football had become big business -- but this wide-open transfer situation has created enormous instability. I miss the days when they kept the corruption in-house. Agree completely. Meanwhile, a college education at a good school costs as much as a home, forcing young adults to choose between those options when they still have no clue about life or themselves. The only loans that are not subject to bankruptcy and sometimes death. |
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Post by desousa on Dec 3, 2023 16:28:30 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs?
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Post by kaybli on Dec 3, 2023 16:30:44 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs? lol
let's tag him.
(He usually disappears in the offseason. Not a big Hotstove guy)
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 3, 2023 21:00:33 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs? lol
let's tag him.
(He usually disappears in the offseason. Not a big Hotstove guy)
I would have loved to see Florida State make it over Alabama! Also, I was looking forward to an LSU-Penn State rivalry with Pipps! Instead, The Purple and Gold Fighting Tigers get the mediocre 7-5 Wisconsin Badgers, which is my nephew's (by marriage) home state team. Many Tiger fans thought the best story would be LSU vs. Notre Dame, Coach Brian Kelly's former team. Last year, LSU had a similar opponent in Purdue and beat them 63-7. Kind of a bummer of a match-up: no real credit for an LSU win and the world is ending if they lose. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 3, 2023 21:06:54 GMT -5
Hear ye, hear ye! The New Orleans Saints are just awful since Sean Payton left for greener pastures and Drew Brees' body broke down to retirement.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 3, 2023 21:27:04 GMT -5
Here ye, here ye! The New Orleans Saints are just awful since Sean Payton left for greener pastures and Drew Brees' body broke down to retirement. At least you didn't lost by two touchdowns at home to the Arizona Cardinals, a team with a front office that's trying to tank. Today was easily one of the worst losses in the Tomlin era. |
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 3, 2023 21:30:28 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs? Why didn't the clowns who run this sport realize that you need at least an eight team tournament sooner? Imagine this as the opening round of the playoffs: Oregon at Michigan Ohio State at Washington Georgia at Texas Florida State at Alabama For me that's must see sports watching. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 9:55:43 GMT -5
lol
let's tag him.
(He usually disappears in the offseason. Not a big Hotstove guy)
I would have loved to see Florida State make it over Alabama! Also, I was looking forward to an LSU-Penn State rivalry with Pipps! Instead, The Purple and Gold Fighting Tigers get the mediocre 7-5 Wisconsin Badgers, which is my nephew's (by marriage) home state team. Many Tiger fans thought the best story would be LSU vs. Notre Dame, Coach Brian Kelly's former team. Last year, LSU had a similar opponent in Purdue and beat them 63-7. Kind of a bummer of a match-up: no real credit for an LSU win and the world is ending if they lose. Your boys were shafted a bit by the committee. You're the highest-ranking team (13) to get stuck with an unranked opponent. LSU-Notre Dame seems extremely logical on so many levels -- similar ranking, the drama of the Kelly Factor, two high-pedigree programs. Why the Fighting Irish got shunted off to Oregon State while you guys wind up playing a very uninteresting Wisconsin team makes no sense at all. Penn State got pretty much what it warranted -- we're ranked 10 and play number 11 Ole Miss. With these bowl games now so much depends on which players decide to sit it out because they want to enter the NFL draft or they've gone into the transfer portal. That would have been unthinkable not that long ago. One thing I do like about this game is that it's the first time these two schools have ever met on the gridiron. Mississippi State is now the only SEC team that Penn State has never played |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 10:07:36 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs? Why didn't the clowns who run this sport realize that you need at least an eight team tournament sooner? Imagine this as the opening round of the playoffs: Oregon at Michigan Ohio State at Washington Georgia at Texas Florida State at Alabama For me that's must see sports watching. Yeah. Knock off the conference championship game -- which seems more superfluous than ever once they expand the field -- and have at it. The matchups you suggested are almost what you would have had in the pre-playoff system when the bowls had conference tie-ins. The only tweak I might do is that under the old Rose Bowl Big Ten-Pac Ten champion system, Michigan would play Washington. Bama winning the SEC would have put them in the Sugar Bowl, and Florida State would have been a perfect match. Texas would have gone to the Cotton Bowl by winning the SWC, and again Georgia would be a great opponent. Ohio State and Oregon would probably have been a Fiesta Bowl game -- they usually took the highest-ranked teams that didn't have a conference tie-in requirement. That would leave the Orange Bowl, which always took the Big Eight winner, which was usually Oklahoma or Nebraska, taking the Sooners and possibly my Nittany Lions, who played in their share of Orange Bowls games, would have been a realistic foe. The way this was set up, at least two teams had to get screwed, and it came down to the Noles and Bulldogs. There was no really good way out this year for the selection committee. FSU was hurt by having only the 55th-best strength of schedule and obviously by their QB injuries. Actually their game against Georgia will still be very interesting for a non-FCS tilt. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 10:42:58 GMT -5
Anyone check on Noetsi after FSU didn't make the playoffs? lol
let's tag him.
(He usually disappears in the offseason. Not a big Hotstove guy)
Kaybli -- I am sure you already knew this, but I only recently learned that Stevens Institute had a football team from 1872-1924. In fact it was one of the first five collegiate football teams, along with Rutgers, Princeton, Columbia and Yale. Three from Jersey! The five teams met in 1873 to try to set up some uniform system of rules -- basically each team had it's own set of rules -- it took awhile to work it out. You guys are the Ducks, a valuable piece of information which you have not shared with us. Your first game, on November 23 1872, was a road game at Columbia, where the Lions devoured the Ducks (50s-style sports headline) by a score of 6-0. Stevens played Columbia 17 times during its gridiron years. Your first win came in 1873 against the Violets of NYU by a score of 6-1 (they used a different scoring system back then.) In fact it was the first team sport win of any kind for SIT. In 1892, Stevens played in the first game ever at Rutgers' Neilson Field. Rutgers was known then as the Queensmen. Your best season came in 1919 when you went 7-0 and allowed only one safety and one field goal for the whole season. The biggest win was a 13-0 shutout of traditional rival Columbia. In 1885 you had your most lopsided win, a modest 162-0 pulverization of CCNY. Sounds like somebody was running up the score against those commuting geeks. Stevens even played mighty Michigan in 1883, but the result is disputed. Michigan claims it won and Stevens claims it won. According to the Bentley Historical Library at Michigan, the referee's confusion over the rules and several reversals of his own calls led to the disputed claims. I've known several people from UM, and several from Stevens, and just based on that personal experience I believe the assertions of the Hoboken loyalists. I just found the 1919 schedule for your convenience. You beat Haverford 6-0; Connecticut Aggies 37-0; Rhode Island State 31-2; RPI 13-0; Columbia 13-0; NYU 24-3 and Worcester Poly 62-0. You also had regular meetings against Delaware, Swarthmore and Johns Hopkins. Some of the more exotic opponents included the Orange YMCA, Jefferson Medical College, Crescent AC, the Bayshore Naval Aviation Air Corp Engineers, Pratt Institute (isn't that an arts school?), Manual Training High School and the USS Arizona. |
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