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Post by chiyankee on Dec 4, 2023 11:07:58 GMT -5
I would have loved to see Florida State make it over Alabama! Also, I was looking forward to an LSU-Penn State rivalry with Pipps! Instead, The Purple and Gold Fighting Tigers get the mediocre 7-5 Wisconsin Badgers, which is my nephew's (by marriage) home state team. Many Tiger fans thought the best story would be LSU vs. Notre Dame, Coach Brian Kelly's former team. Last year, LSU had a similar opponent in Purdue and beat them 63-7. Kind of a bummer of a match-up: no real credit for an LSU win and the world is ending if they lose. Your boys were shafted a bit by the committee. You're the highest-ranking team (13) to get stuck with an unranked opponent. LSU-Notre Dame seems extremely logical on so many levels -- similar ranking, the drama of the Kelly Factor, two high-pedigree programs. Why the Fighting Irish got shunted off to Oregon State while you guys wind up playing a very uninteresting Wisconsin team makes no sense at all. Penn State got pretty much what it warranted -- we're ranked 10 and play number 11 Ole Miss. With these bowl games now so much depends on which players decide to sit it out because they want to enter the NFL draft or they've gone into the transfer portal. That would have been unthinkable not that long ago. One thing I do like about this game is that it's the first time these two schools have ever met on the gridiron. Mississippi State is now the only SEC team that Penn State has never played It seems like the Big Ten and the SEC have an agreement to play each other in as many bowl matchups as possible and if that's the case LSU should at least be playing Iowa and Tennessee should be playing the lesser Wisconsin Badgers. Iowa & LSU would be an interesting match up since LSU has struggled defensively but Iowa can't score on anyone. My guess it the Hawkeyes wouldn't be able to keep up with Tigers on the scoreboard and would fall short. I couldn't recall Penn State ever playing the Rebels, but was too lazy to look it up. Thanks Pipps for giving me the answer. Another Penn State nugget, if they beat Ole Miss, they will become the first school to win all six of the so called New Years Six Bowls, The Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Fiesta and finally the Peach, the only one they haven't won.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 11:16:15 GMT -5
Your boys were shafted a bit by the committee. You're the highest-ranking team (13) to get stuck with an unranked opponent. LSU-Notre Dame seems extremely logical on so many levels -- similar ranking, the drama of the Kelly Factor, two high-pedigree programs. Why the Fighting Irish got shunted off to Oregon State while you guys wind up playing a very uninteresting Wisconsin team makes no sense at all. Penn State got pretty much what it warranted -- we're ranked 10 and play number 11 Ole Miss. With these bowl games now so much depends on which players decide to sit it out because they want to enter the NFL draft or they've gone into the transfer portal. That would have been unthinkable not that long ago. One thing I do like about this game is that it's the first time these two schools have ever met on the gridiron. Mississippi State is now the only SEC team that Penn State has never played It seems like the Big Ten and the SEC have an agreement to play each other in as many bowl matchups as possible and if that's the case LSU should at least be playing Iowa and Tennessee should be playing the lesser Wisconsin Badgers. Iowa & LSU would be an interesting match up since LSU has struggled defensively but Iowa can't score on anyone. My guess it the Hawkeyes wouldn't be able to keep up with Tigers on the scoreboard and would fall short. I couldn't recall Penn State ever playing the Rebels, but was too lazy to look it up. Thanks Pipps for giving me the answer. You are most welcome Chi. One of the many advantages of being retired. Penn State has also played every Ivy League school, but most of those games came back when the Ivies were major programs and they beat Penn State more than vice versa. The last Ivy to have never played Penn State was Brown, which as I am sure you know was Joe Paterno's Alma Mater. In 1983, Paterno threw them a nice payday by not only scheduling them but clearly pulling his punches in a 39-21 win. You might recall that one.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 11:17:42 GMT -5
Oh yes, I agree with you that LSU -Iowa would have been a much more representative match-up.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2023 11:23:29 GMT -5
One more add-on Chi. I was at Penn State in 1970 when they had what was then considered a very poor 7-3 record. They were invited to what was I believe the first-ever Peach Bowl and turned it down. Paterno let the team vote on it -- they did stuff like that then -- but he made it clear he didn't think they were deserving of a bowl game. Of course there were a lot fewer bowl games then -- couldn't have been more than ten or twelve compared to 41 today.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 4, 2023 12:19:42 GMT -5
It seems like the Big Ten and the SEC have an agreement to play each other in as many bowl matchups as possible and if that's the case LSU should at least be playing Iowa and Tennessee should be playing the lesser Wisconsin Badgers. Iowa & LSU would be an interesting match up since LSU has struggled defensively but Iowa can't score on anyone. My guess it the Hawkeyes wouldn't be able to keep up with Tigers on the scoreboard and would fall short. I couldn't recall Penn State ever playing the Rebels, but was too lazy to look it up. Thanks Pipps for giving me the answer. You are most welcome Chi. One of the many advantages of being retired. Penn State has also played every Ivy League school, but most of those games came back when the Ivies were major programs and they beat Penn State more than vice versa. The last Ivy to have never played Penn State was Brown, which as I am sure you know was Joe Paterno's Alma Mater. In 1983, Paterno threw them a nice payday by not only scheduling them but clearly pulling his punches in a 39-21 win. You might recall that one. Yes, Paterno played QB at Brown under head coach Rip Engle. When Engle moved on to Penn State, he eventually added the young Paterno as an assistant and the rest is mostly good history, but I know you already know all of this, lol. And I also remember Paterno was know to sit on leads and play conservatively and allow his defense to wrap up the game, often to dismay of the fanbase.
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Post by kaybli on Dec 4, 2023 12:21:31 GMT -5
lol
let's tag him.
(He usually disappears in the offseason. Not a big Hotstove guy)
Kaybli -- I am sure you already knew this, but I only recently learned that Stevens Institute had a football team from 1872-1924. In fact it was one of the first five collegiate football teams, along with Rutgers, Princeton, Columbia and Yale. Three from Jersey! The five teams met in 1873 to try to set up some uniform system of rules -- basically each team had it's own set of rules -- it took awhile to work it out. You guys are the Ducks, a valuable piece of information which you have not shared with us. Your first game, on November 23 1872, was a road game at Columbia, where the Lions devoured the Ducks (50s-style sports headline) by a score of 6-0. Stevens played Columbia 17 times during its gridiron years. Your first win came in 1873 against the Violets of NYU by a score of 6-1 (they used a different scoring system back then.) In fact it was the first team sport win of any kind for SIT. In 1892, Stevens played in the first game ever at Rutgers' Neilson Field. Rutgers was known then as the Queensmen. Your best season came in 1919 when you went 7-0 and allowed only one safety and one field goal for the whole season. The biggest win was a 13-0 shutout of traditional rival Columbia. In 1885 you had your most lopsided win, a modest 162-0 pulverization of CCNY. Sounds like somebody was running up the score against those commuting geeks. Stevens even played mighty Michigan in 1883, but the result is disputed. Michigan claims it won and Stevens claims it won. According to the Bentley Historical Library at Michigan, the referee's confusion over the rules and several reversals of his own calls led to the disputed claims. I've known several people from UM, and several from Stevens, and just based on that personal experience I believe the assertions of the Hoboken loyalists. I just found the 1919 schedule for your convenience. You beat Haverford 6-0; Connecticut Aggies 37-0; Rhode Island State 31-2; RPI 13-0; Columbia 13-0; NYU 24-3 and Worcester Poly 62-0. You also had regular meetings against Delaware, Swarthmore and Johns Hopkins. Some of the more exotic opponents included the Orange YMCA, Jefferson Medical College, Crescent AC, the Bayshore Naval Aviation Air Corp Engineers, Pratt Institute (isn't that an arts school?), Manual Training High School and the USS Arizona. Yes I knew Stevens once had a football team but didn’t know the years or anything else about them! Thank you for your post to educate me! We are the ducks. Not known for our athletic prowess. 😂
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Post by Renfield on Dec 9, 2023 7:57:29 GMT -5
Shout out to bearman whose Lenoir-Rhyne Bears from Hickory, NC (bearman's alma mater) are in Arkansas for the NCAA Division II football Final Four starting this afternoon. Think they are seeded 2d or 3d. They will try to bring a 2d championship to Hickory as the local high school team, the Hickory High School Red Tornados (my old high school), won the NC 3A championship last night.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 9, 2023 14:33:29 GMT -5
Shout out to bearman whose Lenoir-Rhyne Bears from Hickory, NC (bearman's alma mater) are in Arkansas for the NCAA Division II football Final Four starting this afternoon. Think they are seeded 2d or 3d. They will try to bring a 2d championship to Hickory as the local high school team, the Hickory High School Red Tornados (my old high school), won the NC 3A championship last night. Thanks for the heads-up Renfield. Pulling for the Bears, but it looks pretty grim against a strong Harding team. Love Division II football. Our regional entry Kutztown plays Colorado Mines in the other semi-final. Hickory? Birthplace of Madison Bumgarner and hoops master Rick Barnes! Nice.
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Post by Renfield on Dec 9, 2023 18:27:18 GMT -5
Well, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. The LR Bear got et. Good season, though. Congrats to bearman! bearman
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Post by maizeyanks on Dec 9, 2023 20:44:00 GMT -5
Thankfully this is the last year we have to wait 4-5 weeks until the playoff games, never ever made sense for the sport. Frankly can't remember a more exciting regular season than this one, that'll only enhance with more teams in the playoff hunt during future years.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 10, 2023 4:15:07 GMT -5
Thankfully this is the last year we have to wait 4-5 weeks until the playoff games, never ever made sense for the sport. Frankly can't remember a more exciting regular season than this one, that'll only enhance with more teams in the playoff hunt during future years. I hope they are dropping the conference championship games, which seem superfluous with the expanded field. Otherwise teams could be playing as many as 16 games, which is really pushing it when it comes to injuries and players being reluctant to participate because of possibly endangering NFL draft status or entering the stupid portal.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 10, 2023 5:07:44 GMT -5
Congrats to Rizzuto and his alma mater for Jayden Daniels winning the Heisman. The third Bayou Bengal to take it after Billy Cannon in 1959 and Joe Burrow in 2019.
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Post by desousa on Dec 10, 2023 7:35:48 GMT -5
Congrats to Rizzuto and his alma mater for Jayden Daniels winning the Heisman. The third Bayou Bengal to take it after Billy Cannon in 1959 and Joe Burrow in 2019. Daniels killed the Gators who couldn't stop him passing or running. Congrats to Rizz and his LSU Tigers!
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 17, 2023 15:13:24 GMT -5
Kaybli - you have my sympathy for the Giants and Danny DeVito, who are struggling with a very bad Saints team. The Saints have the easiest schedule in the NFL in the weakest division in professional football.
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Post by kaybli on Dec 17, 2023 15:43:25 GMT -5
Kaybli - you have my sympathy for the Giants and Danny DeVito, who are struggling with a very bad Saints team. The Saints have the easiest schedule in the NFL in the weakest division in professional football. Thanks rizz. Looks like the clock struck midnight for Tommy DeVito and his Cinderella story. Congrats to your Saints.
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