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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 19, 2024 16:55:53 GMT -5
Rumor has it or so we like to claim, the Martini was invented in Matinez. I think that has been disputed as others also make that claim. I moved out in 77, while I know of Doda, I don't recall that ad. Dodge Dart was a pretty good car and with the right package could be pretty quick. I was a Mopar guy, my dad drove a truck hauling new Chrysler products. Always wanted a 69 Charger, maybe someday. My apologies for insulting your home state. I retract what I said. Since you’re there, they can stay. It’s I “Colorado thing” to be pissed at Californians and Texans because they jacked up our real estate valuations. Actually, I’m glad. It helped me sell my home at a nice profit and downsize for retirement… Not insulted at all. |
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Post by inger on Mar 19, 2024 19:00:51 GMT -5
My apologies for insulting your home state. I retract what I said. Since you’re there, they can stay. It’s I “Colorado thing” to be pissed at Californians and Texans because they jacked up our real estate valuations. Actually, I’m glad. It helped me sell my home at a nice profit and downsize for retirement… Not insulted at all. Okay, then I’ll put back what I took back.., 😂 |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 19:14:50 GMT -5
Martinez? Hometown of Joe DiMaggio? (And also Tug McGraw.) That’s a well-known town in my book. I lived in Santa Clara for awhile in the early 70s. I bought a 1968 Dodge Dart from a dealer in Walnut Creek. Do you remember Carol Doda doing the ads for Channel 36? "You're watching the perfect 36." Rumor has it or so we like to claim, the Martini was invented in Matinez. I think that has been disputed as others also make that claim. I moved out in 77, while I know of Doda, I don't recall that ad. Dodge Dart was a pretty good car and with the right package could be pretty quick. I was a Mopar guy, my dad drove a truck hauling new Chrysler products. Always wanted a 69 Charger, maybe someday. I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? |
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Post by qimqam on Mar 20, 2024 7:45:49 GMT -5
Rumor has it or so we like to claim, the Martini was invented in Matinez. I think that has been disputed as others also make that claim. I moved out in 77, while I know of Doda, I don't recall that ad. Dodge Dart was a pretty good car and with the right package could be pretty quick. I was a Mopar guy, my dad drove a truck hauling new Chrysler products. Always wanted a 69 Charger, maybe someday. I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? Pipp what is your ideal martini ... down to the brand |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 20, 2024 9:16:45 GMT -5
Rumor has it or so we like to claim, the Martini was invented in Matinez. I think that has been disputed as others also make that claim. I moved out in 77, while I know of Doda, I don't recall that ad. Dodge Dart was a pretty good car and with the right package could be pretty quick. I was a Mopar guy, my dad drove a truck hauling new Chrysler products. Always wanted a 69 Charger, maybe someday. I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? I not enough of a car expert to answer that question. You got me interested so I looked up performance on both the 413 and Vette. I know there are alot of variables but for the production models the Dodge went 0-60 in 5.8 secs and the Sting Ray was 5.7. |
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Post by inger on Mar 20, 2024 9:20:26 GMT -5
I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? Pipp what is your ideal martini ... down to the brand You’ve done it now. There will be a 3,000 word thesis coming back. 😂 As a rare drinker I get fascinated and amazed at these drinking and mixing stories. I’ve never even had a martini. Wouldn’t know where to start. But Pipps… he’ll answer your question, and more. 🤓… |
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Post by desousa on Mar 20, 2024 9:39:29 GMT -5
Rumor has it or so we like to claim, the Martini was invented in Matinez. I think that has been disputed as others also make that claim. I moved out in 77, while I know of Doda, I don't recall that ad. Dodge Dart was a pretty good car and with the right package could be pretty quick. I was a Mopar guy, my dad drove a truck hauling new Chrysler products. Always wanted a 69 Charger, maybe someday. I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? Whenever I order a martini, I tell the bartender I want it so dry that tomorrow I'll be farting dust. |
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Post by inger on Mar 20, 2024 10:14:33 GMT -5
I've done a lot of reading on the Martini, because I consider it the greatest drink ever concocted, and the cocktail glass itself qualifies as an artistic masterpiece with its sleek lines and with its perfection of balance. But its origins are still clouded in some mystery. I do think it's fair to say that there was a precursor drink called the Martinez, which was probably invented in San Francisco in the late nineteenth century, but which was a much sweeter drink than the Martini because it not only used Italian Vermouth, but some recipes had a 2-1 Vermouth to Gin ratio. As palates became more sophisticated, serious drinkers wanted a drier cocktail, resulting in the introduction of dry French Vermouth (probably in New York in the early 20th century) and a gradual increase of the ratio of Gin to Vermouth from one to one to two to one in my Grandfather's time (he loved this drink) to eventually seven to one to eventually the Winston Churchill recipe of nodding toward a bottle of Vermouth across the room as you pour out the Gin. I have a bunch of old bartending guides and they tend to lean in that direction. How cool that you are a Mopar guy. I would quickly get in over my head if I tried to talk serious automotive issues, but I have come over the years to have such respect for Mopar achievements. My brother bought a brand new 1970 Charger R/T right out of high school, funneling money out of what was supposed to be a college fund right over to The Dodge Boys. He never regretted his malfeasance and never owned a car he loved more. All I know is that it had a 426 V-8 Hemi engine with a 4-speed manual transmission. I know this because he kept talking about it. I believe it put out 425 HP. Burnt orange, hideaway headlights, cool black interior. It felt like a 737 to me. Back in the day my mother had a 1964 Polara with the push-button gear shift if you remember that oddity, and my father had a 1967 Plymouth Fury that had a little life in it too. As a kid my head was always turned by Corvette or by British sports cars that I was too big to fit in, like MGs or Triumph Spitfires. Or Aston Martin if I was really fantasizing. Later in life I owned a series of Jags, the prettiest of which was a 1989 XJS, but the upkeep was ridiculous and as beautiful as it was it would have put me in the poorhouse. Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? Whenever I order a martini, I tell the bartender I want so dry that tomorrow I'll be farting dust. 😂😂😂 You should be giving your ultimate professional recipe here, too. You’re a true professional… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 20, 2024 12:23:23 GMT -5
Pipp what is your ideal martini ... down to the brand Hey there qimqam -- I am always mindful that what works perfectly for me may not be what someone else would like. And as in all things mixological, I defer to our resident barkeep desousa, who has served them up to a wide range of athletes and other celebrities. But on the other hand, in some sense we can all be our own bartenders, and over more than a half century of throwing them back, this is where I currently stand on the subject (one of my favorites.) First of all, in my book, a genuine Martini is made with Gin, not Vodka. Gin is what originated it, Gin is what William Powell drank in the Thin Man movies, and Gin is what generations of true imbibers used for nearly a century before some guy with too much time on his hands started using Vodka but stole the venerable title of Martini. I've experimented with dozens of brands over the years, but over the past five or ten years I have settled on Hendricks as my Gin of choice for a Martini. To me, it just partners so well with that cocktail glass. My admittedly amateur (but experienced) formula is to load up a shaker with ice. I put in 2.5 ounces of Hendricks and just a drop or two of Noilly Prat Extra Dry Vermouth -- I would use an atomizer if I could, I only want to be able to technically say there is Vermouth in there without it actually interfering with my precious Gin. Then I gently stir the concoction for maybe 30 seconds, take my chilled cocktail glass out of the freezer, and strain the drink into the glass. Then I give a twist of lemon peel to liven up the proceedings and put it in the glass. Then I stand there for a few seconds smiling and admiring the creation before settling in for the start of a wonderful relationship. At least in my experience, stirring rather than shaking makes a huge difference. I know it's fun to take that shaker and give it a ride, but it really does bruise the Gin and gives the drink a harsher taste. The otherwise admirable James Bond did the world no favor with his "shaken, not stirred" line. But on the other hand, he did bequeath the world a great new cocktail with the Vesper, so all is forgiven. I know the true classic Martini used olives instead of lemon, as I did for many years, but for me at least the lemon gives the drink more energy. Cocktail onions are fine too, but that is technically a different drink called a Gibson. And I have to use the classic cocktail glass, it just releases the flavors perfectly and it looks so elegant. I think in the really old days they used a coupe glass -- they did that for champagne too -- but the cocktail glass was made for this. We should probably have an alcohol thread because I believe there is enough interest. Also, if I may ask, what is your own recipe for a Martini? I always take these things seriously and want to expand my understanding. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 20, 2024 12:32:05 GMT -5
Do you know the 1963 song "Shut Down" by The Beach Boys? About a race between his fuel-injected Stingray and a 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart. In the song, the Stingray presumably wins, probably because that was the kind of car one of the Wilson brothers owned. People who know a lot more about cars than I do tell me that would have been laughable and that the 413 would have eaten up the Vette. Does that sound right to you? I not enough of a car expert to answer that question. You got me interested so I looked up performance on both the 413 and Vette. I know there are alot of variables but for the production models the Dodge went 0-60 in 5.8 secs and the Sting Ray was 5.7. Thank you! Good stuff. So the Vette driver really might have shut him down. Although obviously a lot would depend on the driver. There was a line in there where he says "he's hot with Ram induction but it's understood, I've got a fuel-injected engine sittin' under my hood." Since Brian Wilson had written about the Chevy 409 a few months earlier, I'm guessing he was a GM guy. |
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Post by qimqam on Mar 20, 2024 14:04:02 GMT -5
Pipp what is your ideal martini ... down to the brand Hey there qimqam -- I am always mindful that what works perfectly for me may not be what someone else would like. And as in all things mixological, I defer to our resident barkeep desousa, who has served them up to a wide range of athletes and other celebrities. But on the other hand, in some sense we can all be our own bartenders, and over more than a half century of throwing them back, this is where I currently stand on the subject (one of my favorites.) First of all, in my book, a genuine Martini is made with Gin, not Vodka. Gin is what originated it, Gin is what William Powell drank in the Thin Man movies, and Gin is what generations of true imbibers used for nearly a century before some guy with too much time on his hands started using Vodka but stole the venerable title of Martini. I've experimented with dozens of brands over the years, but over the past five or ten years I have settled on Hendricks as my Gin of choice for a Martini. To me, it just partners so well with that cocktail glass. My admittedly amateur (but experienced) formula is to load up a shaker with ice. I put in 2.5 ounces of Hendricks and just a drop or two of Noilly Prat Extra Dry Vermouth -- I would use an atomizer if I could, I only want to be able to technically say there is Vermouth in there without it actually interfering with my precious Gin. Then I gently stir the concoction for maybe 30 seconds, take my chilled cocktail glass out of the freezer, and strain the drink into the glass. Then I give a twist of lemon peel to liven up the proceedings and put it in the glass. Then I stand there for a few seconds smiling and admiring the creation before settling in for the start of a wonderful relationship. At least in my experience, stirring rather than shaking makes a huge difference. I know it's fun to take that shaker and give it a ride, but it really does bruise the Gin and gives the drink a harsher taste. The otherwise admirable James Bond did the world no favor with his "shaken, not stirred" line. But on the other hand, he did bequeath the world a great new cocktail with the Vesper, so all is forgiven. I know the true classic Martini used olives instead of lemon, as I did for many years, but for me at least the lemon gives the drink more energy. Cocktail onions are fine too, but that is technically a different drink called a Gibson. And I have to use the classic cocktail glass, it just releases the flavors perfectly and it looks so elegant. I think in the really old days they used a coupe glass -- they did that for champagne too -- but the cocktail glass was made for this. We should probably have an alcohol thread because I believe there is enough interest. Also, if I may ask, what is your own recipe for a Martini? I always take these things seriously and want to expand my understanding. Wow ... This was good reading ... I had to google Vesper and coupe glass. I'm an amatuer when it comes to Martinis ... I've only been ocassionally drinking them for a few to 5 years and I never know how to order them using Martini lingo My experience is mostly with Vodka Martinis, mostly shaken. I've progressed from dirty Martinis (which is kinda nasty), to 3 olive, to my current and favorite, with a twist of lemon. When It comes to which Vodka to use, I'm all over the place. The next martini that I order, likely this weekend, is going to be Hendricks and just a drop or two of Noilly Prat Extra Dry Vermouth, hopefully stirred (bartenders could be prima donnas) ... I need to expand my horizons and you certainly sound like you know a thing or two about Martinis ...Thx P.S. Im also going to try a Vespa ...shaken not stirred |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 20, 2024 14:47:53 GMT -5
South Dakota Martini Recipe
1/2 pint of domestic lager; preferably PBR; best if poured from draft, not bottle.
1/2 pint of tomato juice.
4-10 green olives, to taste.
2-4 pickle slices, to taste.
Pour beer into a chilled drinking container. Add tomato juice until liquid reaches the top of the glass. Drop in additional vegetables. Drink & enjoy.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 20, 2024 15:41:39 GMT -5
Mostly drink single malt scotch or red wine but do order a martini from time to time. I like Bombay Saphire Gin, a whisper of vermouth and 1 olive. I guess that is pretty traditonal.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 20, 2024 16:10:04 GMT -5
Mostly drink single malt scotch or red wine but do order a martini from time to time. I like Bombay Saphire Gin, a whisper of vermouth and 1 olive. I guess that is pretty traditonal. Yep, I'd call that classic. Bombay Sapphire is a good go-to Gin. I use it in certain cocktails like a Negroni, but I have no problem with it in a Gin and Tonic (where I usually use Tanqueray Ten) or a Martini. I need to up my Scotch game. I'm mostly a Bourbon guy when it comes to whiskey -- and over St. Patrick's day we had fun with Irish Whiskey -- but knowing your way around the world of Scotch is a sign of a sophisticated drinker. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 20, 2024 16:18:29 GMT -5
Wow ... This was good reading ... I had to google Vesper and coupe glass. I'm an amatuer when it comes to Martinis ... I've only been ocassionally drinking them for a few to 5 years and I never know how to order them using Martini lingo My experience is mostly with Vodka Martinis, mostly shaken. I've progressed from dirty Martinis (which is kinda nasty), to 3 olive, to my current and favorite, with a twist of lemon. When It comes to which Vodka to use, I'm all over the place. The next martini that I order, likely this weekend, is going to be Hendricks and just a drop or two of Noilly Prat Extra Dry Vermouth, hopefully stirred (bartenders could be prima donnas) ... I need to expand my horizons and you certainly sound like you know a thing or two about Martinis ...Thx P.S. Im also going to try a Vespa ...shaken not stirred Aww, thank you qimqam. Anything to propagate the faith! Yeah, I can't do the dirty Martini anymore. Almost makes me ill. You will definitely find a different taste switching from Vodka to Gin, so I hope you like it. Not everybody does, so I'm not offended if you come back on and say it made you nauseous. But I'd love to hear what you think. It was actually my favorite local bartenders who moved me from shaken to stirred Martinis -- I thought the business about bruising the gin was just show-off talk from people who wanted to appear worldly, but I quickly saw the truth in that. At a bar, I often ask to have the rocks on the side in a small glass to extend the chill and the life expectancy of the drink. Prepare yourself if you have a Vesper. I call that Rocket Fuel, and it can sneak up on you with a wallop. A great gift from Ian Fleming. To your health!! |
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