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Post by kaybli on Nov 10, 2023 4:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by desousa on Nov 10, 2023 8:42:16 GMT -5
Terrible idea!  I don't want Verdugo. He was on my fantasy team last season and I believe he was benched a couple times for a game by Cora for disciplinary reasons. |
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 10, 2023 9:18:47 GMT -5
Terrible idea! I don't want Verdugo. He was on my fantasy team last season and I believe he was benched a couple times for a game by Cora for disciplinary reasons. When is the last time the Yankees and Boston made a meaningful trade with each other? |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 10, 2023 9:39:28 GMT -5
I don't want Verdugo. He was on my fantasy team last season and I believe he was benched a couple times for a game by Cora for disciplinary reasons. When is the last time the Yankees and Boston made a meaningful trade with each other? This May, Yankees swapped Diego Hernandez for Greg Allen, don't think that counts as meaningful.
in 2021, Yankees dumped Adam Ottavino's contract (and Frank German) to Boston for cash.
If you want player(s) for player(s),
in 2014 Yankees traded Kelly Johnson for Stephen Drew
History:
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 10, 2023 9:46:28 GMT -5
When is the last time the Yankees and Boston made a meaningful trade with each other? This May, Yankees swapped Diego Hernandez for Greg Allen, don't think that counts as meaningful.
That was game changer! We will always miss Diego being in the organization. |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 10, 2023 9:53:09 GMT -5
If you don't remember this hilarious Chan Ho Park interview:
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Post by inger on Nov 10, 2023 10:01:16 GMT -5
Brian Cashman: “Let’s get one thing straight here. I’m not ####### sick. I’m feeling pretty ####### good. I’m ####### ready to go to ####### work.”… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 10, 2023 10:27:31 GMT -5
When is the last time the Yankees and Boston made a meaningful trade with each other? This May, Yankees swapped Diego Hernandez for Greg Allen, don't think that counts as meaningful.
in 2021, Yankees dumped Adam Ottavino's contract (and Frank German) to Boston for cash.
If you want player(s) for player(s),
in 2014 Yankees traded Kelly Johnson for Stephen Drew
History:
Kaybli, I am getting the 404 Not Found for that link on both my phone and laptop. Maybe it's just me, but in case it's not, the summary is that the Yankees and Red Sox have made seven trades in the Divisional Era (since 1969.) The three you mentioned are fairly typical -- inconsequential for both teams. The last one before that Johnson-Drew deal in 2014 was in 1997, when the Yanks sent Randy Brown and Mike Stanley to Boston for Tony Armas and Jim Mecir. That same year the Yankees purchased Scott Bankhead from Boston for cash. The last actual impact trade was in 1986, when the teams swapped aging DHs, with Don Baylor going to Boston and Mike Easler coming to New York. Both players had good seasons; Baylor hit 31 HRs with 94 RBIs, batting .238 with an OPS+ of 112 while Easler batted .302 with 14 HRs, 78 RBIs and an OPS+ of 121. Each played only one year for their new teams. Before that you have to go back to 1972, when the Yanks got Sparky Lyle in return for Mario Guerrero and Danny Cater. That was a clear win for the Yankees as Lyle would win the Cy Young Award in 1977 and had seven really good years for the Yanks before he was re-packaged as part of a 10-man deal with Texas that brought Dave Righetti to the Yanks. So he helped them coming and going. Before the 67 season the Yankees sent their outstanding (but old) catcher Elston Howard to Boston for pitchers Ron Klimkowski and Pete Magrini. Crazy as it sounds, the Yankees might have gotten the best of the deal -- Klimkowski in three years was only 6-10, but had an ERA+ of 125 in 64 games. Meanwhile, Ellie's last gasp with Boston did see him get into a World Series with them in 1967 as a backup catcher, but in two years with Boston he played in only 113 games with a slash of .207/.279/.295 and an OPS+ of 65. Before that it was highway robbery between 1920-1930 with the Yankees getting three HOF pitchers plus Babe Ruth from Boston. In 1930 the Yanks got Red Ruffing for Cedric Durst and cash. In 1923 the Yanks got Herb Pennock for three guys nobody ever heard of (one was named Camp Skinner. Unless maybe that was a place.) In 1920 the Yanks got Waite Hoyt and an excellent catcher Wally Schang for second baseman Del Pratt, catcher Muddy Ruel and a couple of throw-ins. Ruel was a decent catcher with a long career, but clearly inferior to Schang, while Pratt was also a decent second baseman but was nearing the end of his career and Boston got only two years out of him. In that same timeframe the Yanks got from Boston pitcher Bullet Joe Bush, who pitched for two Yankee pennant winners, and Sad Sam Jones, who gave them five good years; third baseman and Babe drinking buddy Joe Dugan, who was a regular on five pennant-winners; and pitcher George Pipgras, also a key element on three Yankee pennant winning squads. The other deal was Babe Ruth. So overall, in the early going the Yankees swindled Boston and its owner Harry Frazee, who was always teetering financially while backing Broadway productions. It's no exaggeration to say that the first Yankee dynasty was made possible by the Boston Red Sox. I don't see too many instances of Boston getting the best of a deal. Arguably Baylor, who was an important part of the 1986 pennant-drive for the Red Sox, although Easler certainly performed well for the Yanks. |
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Post by inger on Nov 10, 2023 10:45:40 GMT -5
This May, Yankees swapped Diego Hernandez for Greg Allen, don't think that counts as meaningful.
in 2021, Yankees dumped Adam Ottavino's contract (and Frank German) to Boston for cash.
If you want player(s) for player(s),
in 2014 Yankees traded Kelly Johnson for Stephen Drew
History:
Kaybli, I am getting the 404 Not Found for that link on both my phone and laptop. Maybe it's just me, but in case it's not, the summary is that the Yankees and Red Sox have made seven trades in the Divisional Era (since 1969.) The three you mentioned are fairly typical -- inconsequential for both teams. The last one before that Johnson-Drew deal in 2014 was in 1997, when the Yanks sent Randy Brown and Mike Stanley to Boston for Tony Armas and Jim Mecir. That same year the Yankees purchased Scott Bankhead from Boston for cash. The last actual impact trade was in 1986, when the teams swapped aging DHs, with Don Baylor going to Boston and Mike Easler coming to New York. Both players had good seasons; Baylor hit 31 HRs with 94 RBIs, batting .238 with an OPS+ of 112 while Easler batted .302 with 14 HRs, 78 RBIs and an OPS+ of 121. Each played only one year for their new teams. Before that you have to go back to 1972, when the Yanks got Sparky Lyle in return for Mario Guerrero and Danny Cater. That was a clear win for the Yankees as Lyle would win the Cy Young Award in 1977 and had seven really good years for the Yanks before he was re-packaged as part of a 10-man deal with Texas that brought Dave Righetti to the Yanks. So he helped them coming and going. Before the 67 season the Yankees sent their outstanding (but old) catcher Elston Howard to Boston for pitchers Ron Klimkowski and Pete Magrini. Crazy as it sounds, the Yankees might have gotten the best of the deal -- Klimkowski in three years was only 6-10, but had an ERA+ of 125 in 64 games. Meanwhile, Ellie's last gasp with Boston did see him get into a World Series with them in 1967 as a backup catcher, but in two years with Boston he played in only 113 games with a slash of .207/.279/.295 and an OPS+ of 65. Before that it was highway robbery between 1920-1930 with the Yankees getting three HOF pitchers plus Babe Ruth from Boston. In 1930 the Yanks got Red Ruffing for Cedric Durst and cash. In 1923 the Yanks got Herb Pennock for three guys nobody ever heard of (one was named Camp Skinner. Unless maybe that was a place.) In 1920 the Yanks got Waite Hoyt and an excellent catcher Wally Schang for second baseman Del Pratt, catcher Muddy Ruel and a couple of throw-ins. Ruel was a decent catcher with a long career, but clearly inferior to Schang, while Pratt was also a decent second baseman but was nearing the end of his career and Boston got only two years out of him. In that same timeframe the Yanks got from Boston pitcher Bullet Joe Bush, who pitched for two Yankee pennant winners, and Sad Sam Jones, who gave them five good years; third baseman and Babe drinking buddy Joe Dugan, who was a regular on five pennant-winners; and pitcher George Pipgras, also a key element on three Yankee pennant winning squads. The other deal was Babe Ruth. So overall, in the early going the Yankees swindled Boston and its owner Harry Frazee, who was always teetering financially while backing Broadway productions. It's no exaggeration to say that the first Yankee dynasty was made possible by the Boston Red Sox. I don't see too many instances of Boston getting the best of a deal. Arguably Baylor, who was an important part of the 1986 pennant-drive for the Red Sox, although Easler certainly performed well for the Yanks. You don’t need the link. You ARE the link. In fact, you go back much further than that link (which opened for me) did… 😂 |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 10, 2023 10:51:19 GMT -5
This May, Yankees swapped Diego Hernandez for Greg Allen, don't think that counts as meaningful.
in 2021, Yankees dumped Adam Ottavino's contract (and Frank German) to Boston for cash.
If you want player(s) for player(s),
in 2014 Yankees traded Kelly Johnson for Stephen Drew
History:
Kaybli, I am getting the 404 Not Found for that link on both my phone and laptop. Maybe it's just me, but in case it's not, the summary is that the Yankees and Red Sox have made seven trades in the Divisional Era (since 1969.) The three you mentioned are fairly typical -- inconsequential for both teams. The last one before that Johnson-Drew deal in 2014 was in 1997, when the Yanks sent Randy Brown and Mike Stanley to Boston for Tony Armas and Jim Mecir. That same year the Yankees purchased Scott Bankhead from Boston for cash. The last actual impact trade was in 1986, when the teams swapped aging DHs, with Don Baylor going to Boston and Mike Easler coming to New York. Both players had good seasons; Baylor hit 31 HRs with 94 RBIs, batting .238 with an OPS+ of 112 while Easler batted .302 with 14 HRs, 78 RBIs and an OPS+ of 121. Each played only one year for their new teams. Before that you have to go back to 1972, when the Yanks got Sparky Lyle in return for Mario Guerrero and Danny Cater. That was a clear win for the Yankees as Lyle would win the Cy Young Award in 1977 and had seven really good years for the Yanks before he was re-packaged as part of a 10-man deal with Texas that brought Dave Righetti to the Yanks. So he helped them coming and going. Before the 67 season the Yankees sent their outstanding (but old) catcher Elston Howard to Boston for pitchers Ron Klimkowski and Pete Magrini. Crazy as it sounds, the Yankees might have gotten the best of the deal -- Klimkowski in three years was only 6-10, but had an ERA+ of 125 in 64 games. Meanwhile, Ellie's last gasp with Boston did see him get into a World Series with them in 1967 as a backup catcher, but in two years with Boston he played in only 113 games with a slash of .207/.279/.295 and an OPS+ of 65. Before that it was highway robbery between 1920-1930 with the Yankees getting three HOF pitchers plus Babe Ruth from Boston. In 1930 the Yanks got Red Ruffing for Cedric Durst and cash. In 1923 the Yanks got Herb Pennock for three guys nobody ever heard of (one was named Camp Skinner. Unless maybe that was a place.) In 1920 the Yanks got Waite Hoyt and an excellent catcher Wally Schang for second baseman Del Pratt, catcher Muddy Ruel and a couple of throw-ins. Ruel was a decent catcher with a long career, but clearly inferior to Schang, while Pratt was also a decent second baseman but was nearing the end of his career and Boston got only two years out of him. In that same timeframe the Yanks got from Boston pitcher Bullet Joe Bush, who pitched for two Yankee pennant winners, and Sad Sam Jones, who gave them five good years; third baseman and Babe drinking buddy Joe Dugan, who was a regular on five pennant-winners; and pitcher George Pipgras, also a key element on three Yankee pennant winning squads. The other deal was Babe Ruth. So overall, in the early going the Yankees swindled Boston and its owner Harry Frazee, who was always teetering financially while backing Broadway productions. It's no exaggeration to say that the first Yankee dynasty was made possible by the Boston Red Sox. I don't see too many instances of Boston getting the best of a deal. Arguably Baylor, who was an important part of the 1986 pennant-drive for the Red Sox, although Easler certainly performed well for the Yanks. Sorry I fixed it on my original post. But who needs the link when you have pipps! |
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Post by domeplease on Nov 10, 2023 19:03:20 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Nov 11, 2023 5:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 11, 2023 10:34:51 GMT -5
Whatever you say, Buster.  |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 11, 2023 12:25:17 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 11, 2023 12:28:49 GMT -5
By the way, if we are to go after a fire-throwing reliever, I'll take Hicks over Hader, who refused to enter a game last season in the eighth inning. Who does that?
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