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Post by rizzuto on Jan 11, 2024 23:29:24 GMT -5
Trevino was a PLATINUM glove winner...Hardly an emergency backup... Didn't they also sign Carlos Narvaez in the offseason ? And they have drafted and/or picked up several yOUNG catchers as well... At one point they had 6 catchers on the 40 man roster ... they STILL have 5...
Hi Cookback. 
Narvaez played at Triple A for the Yankees.
I thought Narvaez looked good defensively in Spring Training last year. |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 12, 2024 1:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Jan 12, 2024 1:25:00 GMT -5
I don't think the Yankees would pay any pitcher more AAV than Cole, nor should they. Yankees should stand pat, let someone else exceed that number for essentially a five inning pitcher. Snell can languish the remainder of his career in Anaheim or San Francisco, or join the Yankees to compete for a title. They made a fair offer in my opinion. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 1:32:35 GMT -5
I don't think the Yankees would pay any pitcher more AAV than Cole, nor should they. Yankees should stand pat, let someone else exceed that number for essentially a five inning pitcher. Snell can languish the remainder of his career in Anaheim or San Francisco, or join the Yankees to compete for a title. They made a fair offer in my opinion. I would have offered 5 and 180 . |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 12, 2024 10:15:56 GMT -5
Trevino was a PLATINUM glove winner...Hardly an emergency backup... Didn't they also sign Carlos Narvaez in the offseason ? And they have drafted and/or picked up several yOUNG catchers as well... At one point they had 6 catchers on the 40 man roster ... they STILL have 5... Despite the PLATINUM glove, that's exactly what he was. The Yankees traded for him when part of their plan A got hurt. The intention was that Higgy and Rortvedt would be the catching duo. Maybe emergency backup was the wrong way to phrase it but I don't think Cash traded for him to be an upgrade over the two guys he had. If Rortvedt doesn't get hurt then Trevino is not a Yankee. The reason he was available at such a low price was because Texas was planning to release him if they could not find a trading partner. As I said, IMO he overachieved for 1/2 year with us. Since then he hasn't been very good. Maybe the injury contributed, maybe he has reverted to the player Texas thought he was when they determined they needed to upgrade. I'm certainly not going to argue that Wells is better defensively than Trevino, he's not. Wells suffered an arm injury early in his career and his arm strength is below average. He'll probably never be good at throwing out base runners but his other defensive skills look better than advertised. The way his defense has been criticized I was expecting the second coming of Sanchez. By all accounts he has worked hard to improve his D and it seems to be paying off. In Trevino's Platinum year he threw out 33% of base stealers, that is a pretty good number and probably factored into the award. It also appears to be an anomoly. Hasn't been close to that in any other year (I will admit he hasn't played alot), last year his number dropped to 21% which is more in line with his career number. Injury? Reverting to who Texas thought he was? Trevino has a good reputation as a pitch framer, certainly a good attribute for a catcher to have. He probably does things defensivelt that I don't fully appreciate. I loved watching Trevino the first half of the 2021 season. He was maybe the Yankees best clutch hitter, putting up good abs particularly with men on base. But somthing happened, the second half of the year he wasn't as good and last year I found him to be very a undisciplined hitter. Someone I did not want up in clutch situations. IMHO, I believe the Yankees want Wells to be the everyday catcher. I expect there will be a platoon to start but unless he really struggles he will eventually get the majority of starts. If Trevino reverts back to the player he was for the first half of '21, I will admit I was wrong. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 12, 2024 10:29:14 GMT -5
Hi Cookback.
Narvaez played at Triple A for the Yankees.
I thought Narvaez looked good defensively in Spring Training last year. This time last year, I thought Narvaez was just organization filler but he showed enough in 2023 for the Yanks to use a 40 man roster spot on him. Good for him, you receive major league benefits when you're on the 40 man regardless if you're in the majors or the minors. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 12, 2024 10:45:26 GMT -5
I have to admit I am not an accountant and probably know just enough about MLB accounting rules and the LT to get things wrong. I was looking at Spotrac today and it says the Yankees projected 2024 Total Payroll is $273mm. Their CBT number is $299mm. For grins, I looked at the Dodgers. Their Total Payroll is $200mm and CBT number is $293.
I know they did some funny accounting tricks with Ohtani but I guess I don't understand the full ramifications. Are they being really clever or somehow mortgaging their future?
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 12, 2024 11:08:15 GMT -5
I have to admit I am not an accountant and probably know just enough about MLB accounting rules and the LT to get things wrong. I was looking at Spotrac today and it says the Yankees projected 2024 Total Payroll is $273mm. Their CBT number is $299mm. For grins, I looked at the Dodgers. Their Total Payroll is $200mm and CBT number is $293. I know they did some funny accounting tricks with Ohtani but I guess I don't understand the full ramifications. Are they being really clever or somehow mortgaging their future? For CBT purposes, the Dodgers are only being charged the present value of Othani's contract, not the full amount, which is a huge break for them when it comes to paying the lux tax. To me, it should be more clear cut, if you sign a player to a 700 million, 10 year contract, the tax hit should be 70 million per year, the amount deferred should be irrelevant. Instead the Dodgers are only being charged 46 million per year. |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 11:01:20 GMT -5
Some rumblings about the Yankees and Rangers are the favorites to sign Hector Neris.
In my opinion, Neris has the potential to be the shutdown Closer the Yankees need.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2024 11:36:11 GMT -5
Some rumblings about the Yankees and Rangers are the favorites to sign Hector Neris. In my opinion, Neris has the potential to be the shutdown Closer the Yankees need. An extra arm would, especially one that stays healthy. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 12:36:56 GMT -5
Some rumblings about the Yankees and Rangers are the favorites to sign Hector Neris. In my opinion, Neris has the potential to be the shutdown Closer the Yankees need. An extra arm would, especially one that stays healthy. Neris is really good . Would be a great pick up for the yankees |
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2024 13:39:41 GMT -5
I have to admit I am not an accountant and probably know just enough about MLB accounting rules and the LT to get things wrong. I was looking at Spotrac today and it says the Yankees projected 2024 Total Payroll is $273mm. Their CBT number is $299mm. For grins, I looked at the Dodgers. Their Total Payroll is $200mm and CBT number is $293. I know they did some funny accounting tricks with Ohtani but I guess I don't understand the full ramifications. Are they being really clever or somehow mortgaging their future? For CBT purposes, the Dodgers are only being charged the present value of Othani's contract, not the full amount, which is a huge break for them when it comes to paying the lux tax. To me, it should be more clear cut, if you sign a player to a 700 million, 10 year contract, the tax hit should be 70 million per year, the amount deferred should be irrelevant. Instead the Dodgers are only being charged 46 million per year. I have to think this contract is going to be detrimental to the Dodgers for decades after Ohtani retires, or is there a way of continuing to juggle and kick the can down the road that I can’t see?… |
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2024 13:45:02 GMT -5
Some rumblings about the Yankees and Rangers are the favorites to sign Hector Neris. In my opinion, Neris has the potential to be the shutdown Closer the Yankees need. He suddenly posted an uncharacteristic low ERA at 34 years of age last year but with a 3.83 FIP. I’d be okay with him as a 7-8 inning guy, but Holmes would still be my closer… |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 15:08:59 GMT -5
I have to admit I am not an accountant and probably know just enough about MLB accounting rules and the LT to get things wrong. I was looking at Spotrac today and it says the Yankees projected 2024 Total Payroll is $273mm. Their CBT number is $299mm. For grins, I looked at the Dodgers. Their Total Payroll is $200mm and CBT number is $293. I know they did some funny accounting tricks with Ohtani but I guess I don't understand the full ramifications. Are they being really clever or somehow mortgaging their future? For CBT purposes, the Dodgers are only being charged the present value of Othani's contract, not the full amount, which is a huge break for them when it comes to paying the lux tax. To me, it should be more clear cut, if you sign a player to a 700 million, 10 year contract, the tax hit should be 70 million per year, the amount deferred should be irrelevant. Instead the Dodgers are only being charged 46 million per year.
I hope the Yankees are taking notes when it comes to trying to re-sign Soto and or Torres.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 15:12:31 GMT -5
For CBT purposes, the Dodgers are only being charged the present value of Othani's contract, not the full amount, which is a huge break for them when it comes to paying the lux tax. To me, it should be more clear cut, if you sign a player to a 700 million, 10 year contract, the tax hit should be 70 million per year, the amount deferred should be irrelevant. Instead the Dodgers are only being charged 46 million per year.
I hope the Yankees are taking notes when it comes to trying to re-sign Soto and or Torres.
I believe one will be re-signed but i highly doubt both will |
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