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Post by maizeyanks on Dec 7, 2023 14:39:08 GMT -5
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!! King is a nice talent and we got every juice out of that orange, Thorpe will be the one that really hurts, but nobody is untouchable for a guy like Soto. We kept Jasson, Peraza, Jones and others on the farm, so plenty to work from in other trades if we need this winter or down the road. Soto is a generational talent, his OBP alone is worth the price, guy is a game fucking changer.
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 14:53:38 GMT -5
This is a REAL add. Off the top shelf rather than the bottom of the grease dumpster behind a greasy spoon. It’s nice to see it…
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Dec 7, 2023 15:07:07 GMT -5
I guess Verdugo would be OK at leadoff against right handers but I wouldn't play him at all against lefties, because he can't hit them. I'd use DJ at leadoff against left handers or maybe even Grishman, who despite being left handed was better against lefties last season than against right handers. Plus Grisham has some speed and plays an outstanding CF. I agree with the platoon at leadoff, even though neither player is an ideal leadoff hitter. I’m hoping for a second year of MLB we can get Volpe into leadoff mode by maybe mid-season. He needs to take more pitches, raise that OBP and get in to running mode. I like Soto batting #2 and Judge #3. Maybe they should flip flop vs. the platoon as well… pleasant problem to have… I doubt we’re going to see Bellinger now, but imagine him batting #4 instead of Torres… <slobbers a bit>… If they miss on Yamamoto and that $$$ is burning a hole in their pocket, I wouldn't necessarily rule out Bellinger. It actually makes a lot of sense still, IMO. Run out a day 1 lineup of: 3B DJ RF Soto CF Judge LF Bellinger 2B Torres
DH Stanton 1B Rizzo SS VolpeC Wells / Trevino This pushes Verdugo to the bench but here's the thing... we know Stanton is always hurt. Rizzo struggled with health last year and at his older age probably should plan on consistent rest days for him. If Judge is going to play CF he probably needs more rest days than he would in RF. Because of the versatility of Bellinger to play the OF or 1B, you could essentially view Verdugo as the backup at all 3 OF spots, DH, and 1B. Between IL stints and scheduled rest days at all of those spots, you'd still have Verdugo playing everyday. I haven't mentioned Dominguez yet but even though he's expected back midyear, guys have struggled to jump right back to form after that injury so some time in the minors probably serves him well to be honest. And all it would take is one IL stint for any of Bellinger/Rizzo/Stanton/Judge/Soto/Verdugo and he'd be able to take their place in this rotation anyway. Now you fast forward to next year, Rizzo is a FA so you let him go and slide Bellinger to 1B. Dominguez steps into the open OF spot in his first full year back from TJS where he should be ready to be a pure everyday player. Verdugo is also a FA and probably allowed to walk, or possibly retained in the same "10th starter" type of role depending on how the year goes. Signing Bellinger actually still fits really well even though on the surface it seems like overkill after adding Soto and Verdugo. But for it to be overkill you'd have to have all the following happen: 1) Stanton stays healthy all year... seems incredibly unlikely 2) Rizzo stays healthy all year and can play everyday like in his prime... even if he does stay healthy he probably ends up with more regular rest than in his youth and would only start 120ish games anyway 3) Judge stays healthy all years... he's not Stanton but he's had his injury troubles 4) Soto/Verdugo stay healthy all year... no concerns with either specifically but you never know 5) Dominguez returns early and at full force from TJS to be a major factor... that seems overly optimistic And then you factor in our lack of a long-term 1B option, and I think we should remain interested in Bellinger. Particularly if the money we hope to spend on Yamamoto doesn't land.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 7, 2023 15:20:24 GMT -5
I agree with the platoon at leadoff, even though neither player is an ideal leadoff hitter. I’m hoping for a second year of MLB we can get Volpe into leadoff mode by maybe mid-season. He needs to take more pitches, raise that OBP and get in to running mode. I like Soto batting #2 and Judge #3. Maybe they should flip flop vs. the platoon as well… pleasant problem to have… I doubt we’re going to see Bellinger now, but imagine him batting #4 instead of Torres… <slobbers a bit>… If they miss on Yamamoto and that $$$ is burning a hole in their pocket, I wouldn't necessarily rule out Bellinger. It actually makes a lot of sense still, IMO. Run out a day 1 lineup of: 3B DJ RF Soto CF Judge LF Bellinger 2B Torres
DH Stanton 1B Rizzo SS VolpeC Wells / Trevino This pushes Verdugo to the bench but here's the thing... we know Stanton is always hurt. Rizzo struggled with health last year and at his older age probably should plan on consistent rest days for him. If Judge is going to play CF he probably needs more rest days than he would in RF. Because of the versatility of Bellinger to play the OF or 1B, you could essentially view Verdugo as the backup at all 3 OF spots, DH, and 1B. Between IL stints and scheduled rest days at all of those spots, you'd still have Verdugo playing everyday. I haven't mentioned Dominguez yet but even though he's expected back midyear, guys have struggled to jump right back to form after that injury so some time in the minors probably serves him well to be honest. And all it would take is one IL stint for any of Bellinger/Rizzo/Stanton/Judge/Soto/Verdugo and he'd be able to take their place in this rotation anyway. Now you fast forward to next year, Rizzo is a FA so you let him go and slide Bellinger to 1B. Dominguez steps into the open OF spot in his first full year back from TJS where he should be ready to be a pure everyday player. Verdugo is also a FA and probably allowed to walk, or possibly retained in the same "10th starter" type of role depending on how the year goes. Signing Bellinger actually still fits really well even though on the surface it seems like overkill after adding Soto and Verdugo. But for it to be overkill you'd have to have all the following happen: 1) Stanton stays healthy all year... seems incredibly unlikely 2) Rizzo stays healthy all year and can play everyday like in his prime... even if he does stay healthy he probably ends up with more regular rest than in his youth and would only start 120ish games anyway 3) Judge stays healthy all years... he's not Stanton but he's had his injury troubles 4) Soto/Verdugo stay healthy all year... no concerns with either specifically but you never know 5) Dominguez returns early and at full force from TJS to be a major factor... that seems overly optimistic And then you factor in our lack of a long-term 1B option, and I think we should remain interested in Bellinger. Particularly if the money we hope to spend on Yamamoto doesn't land. Hello there YFIB -- I was in that same situation between 2004-2006. It was very unpleasant given what happened in 04, although otherwise we enjoyed our brief time living there. Whereabouts are you in The Hub? Sure, I'd look at Bellinger if they don't get Yamamoto, although I consider him very high-risk and I'd be surprised if they went after him. But if money really is no object, why not? In fact if it gets to be mid-season and Stanton in any way resembles what we saw last year, they just have to dump him and eat the money. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 15:47:08 GMT -5
I agree with the platoon at leadoff, even though neither player is an ideal leadoff hitter. I’m hoping for a second year of MLB we can get Volpe into leadoff mode by maybe mid-season. He needs to take more pitches, raise that OBP and get in to running mode. I like Soto batting #2 and Judge #3. Maybe they should flip flop vs. the platoon as well… pleasant problem to have… I doubt we’re going to see Bellinger now, but imagine him batting #4 instead of Torres… <slobbers a bit>… If they miss on Yamamoto and that $$$ is burning a hole in their pocket, I wouldn't necessarily rule out Bellinger. It actually makes a lot of sense still, IMO. Run out a day 1 lineup of: 3B DJ RF Soto CF Judge LF Bellinger 2B Torres
DH Stanton 1B Rizzo SS VolpeC Wells / Trevino This pushes Verdugo to the bench but here's the thing... we know Stanton is always hurt. Rizzo struggled with health last year and at his older age probably should plan on consistent rest days for him. If Judge is going to play CF he probably needs more rest days than he would in RF. Because of the versatility of Bellinger to play the OF or 1B, you could essentially view Verdugo as the backup at all 3 OF spots, DH, and 1B. Between IL stints and scheduled rest days at all of those spots, you'd still have Verdugo playing everyday. I haven't mentioned Dominguez yet but even though he's expected back midyear, guys have struggled to jump right back to form after that injury so some time in the minors probably serves him well to be honest. And all it would take is one IL stint for any of Bellinger/Rizzo/Stanton/Judge/Soto/Verdugo and he'd be able to take their place in this rotation anyway. Now you fast forward to next year, Rizzo is a FA so you let him go and slide Bellinger to 1B. Dominguez steps into the open OF spot in his first full year back from TJS where he should be ready to be a pure everyday player. Verdugo is also a FA and probably allowed to walk, or possibly retained in the same "10th starter" type of role depending on how the year goes. Signing Bellinger actually still fits really well even though on the surface it seems like overkill after adding Soto and Verdugo. But for it to be overkill you'd have to have all the following happen: 1) Stanton stays healthy all year... seems incredibly unlikely 2) Rizzo stays healthy all year and can play everyday like in his prime... even if he does stay healthy he probably ends up with more regular rest than in his youth and would only start 120ish games anyway 3) Judge stays healthy all years... he's not Stanton but he's had his injury troubles 4) Soto/Verdugo stay healthy all year... no concerns with either specifically but you never know 5) Dominguez returns early and at full force from TJS to be a major factor... that seems overly optimistic And then you factor in our lack of a long-term 1B option, and I think we should remain interested in Bellinger. Particularly if the money we hope to spend on Yamamoto doesn't land. Good thoughts here, and I’ll add that there is evidence building that Stanton should be platooned. Not to mention that he may benefit from missing even leftie that can throw in the high nineties and higher… if only we could move him…
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Post by domeplease on Dec 7, 2023 16:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 18:20:36 GMT -5
He’s the former hitting coach. He chose to leave that position. Let other people worry about that. Obviously, if the roster stays the same, Grisham could enter games at any point and Judge/Soto can move when needed to. Who knows if the Yanks might still wind up Bellinger. Keep your finger off the panic button until we see how this shakes out…
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 7, 2023 20:37:00 GMT -5
If the Yankees stand pat on the players they currently have (they won't and shouldn't), it's more likely to me that Judge is in right field, Soto is in left, and in center is Grisham who is a Gold Glover. Verdugo may just DH against right-handers and Stanton against lefties. That is less likely, when I think of Boone and his keeping Stanton batting clean up last season. Yankees have several slots of arms to fill in the bullpen and the starting lineup.
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 21:03:25 GMT -5
If the Yankees stand pat on the players they currently have (they won't and shouldn't), it's more likely to me that Judge is in right field, Soto is in left, and in center is Grisham who is a Gold Glover. Verdugo may just DH against right-handers and Stanton against lefties. That is less likely, when I think of Boone and his keeping Stanton batting clean up last season. Yankees have several slots of arms to fill in the bullpen and the starting lineup. Or, vs. Righties, Soto may DH and Verdugo may tend to left…
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Post by kaybli on Dec 7, 2023 21:36:50 GMT -5
OK we signed Soto. Now on to the fun part. What should be his HR picture? Any ideas? His nicknames include "Childish Bambino" and "La Fiera" (The Beast)
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Post by inger on Dec 8, 2023 2:57:31 GMT -5
OK we signed Soto. Now on to the fun part. What should be his HR picture? Any ideas? His nicknames include "Childish Bambino" and "La Fiera" (The Beast) Rent-A-Soto for now…
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 8, 2023 8:57:06 GMT -5
OK we signed Soto. Now on to the fun part. What should be his HR picture? Any ideas? His nicknames include "Childish Bambino" and "La Fiera" (The Beast) One Soto, until he signs an extension.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 8, 2023 9:30:30 GMT -5
OK we signed Soto. Now on to the fun part. What should be his HR picture? Any ideas? His nicknames include "Childish Bambino" and "La Fiera" (The Beast) They traded for him, now they have to sign him to the extension.
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Post by inger on Dec 8, 2023 9:34:20 GMT -5
Juan José Soto Pacheco had a 158 OPS+ in 2023
he has 5 qualified seasons with at least a 140 OPS+, tied for the most by a player thru age-24 season, with:
Mike Trout
Mickey Mantle
Jimmie Foxx
Ty Cobb
That’s some grouping there…
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 8, 2023 9:35:31 GMT -5
Juan José Soto Pacheco had a 158 OPS+ in 2023 he has 5 qualified seasons with at least a 140 OPS+, tied for the most by a player thru age-24 season, with: Mike Trout Mickey Mantle Jimmie Foxx That’s some grouping there… I wish he could play CF like the first two, but I guess that's just being greedy.
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