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Post by chiyankee on Dec 6, 2023 23:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Dec 6, 2023 23:47:50 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Dec 6, 2023 23:48:40 GMT -5
Now it’s official boys! Time to celebrate!
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 6, 2023 23:48:58 GMT -5
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Post by Renfield on Dec 6, 2023 23:53:33 GMT -5
Just have to get him unlocked. Pretty steep price for only one year of Soto, but should be a significant improvement to the line-up.
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Post by JEGnj on Dec 7, 2023 0:12:08 GMT -5
Glad the move finally got done. Glad we kept Schmidt who turned into a solid starter by the end of the season. If Soto is a 1 year rental because we are stuck with Stanton til 2028 I will be furious.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 7, 2023 10:11:11 GMT -5
Glad the move finally got done. Glad we kept Schmidt who turned into a solid starter by the end of the season. If Soto is a 1 year rental because we are stuck with Stanton til 2028 I will be furious. With the exception of Andy Pettitte. I can't recall the Yankees ever losing one of their own free agents to another team. If all goes well this year with Soto, I think they'll pay the price to keep him and at his age, why not?
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Post by kaybli on Dec 7, 2023 11:10:35 GMT -5
Here’s my opening day lineup with Soto:
DJ Judge Soto Torres Rizzo Stanton Verdugo Volpe Wells
How bout you?
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Dec 7, 2023 11:56:13 GMT -5
Here’s my opening day lineup with Soto: DJ Judge Soto Torres Rizzo Stanton Verdugo Volpe Wells How bout you? I'd go with: LF Verdugo (L) CF Judge (R) RF Soto (L) 2B Torres (R) 1B Rizzo (L)DH Stanton (R) 3B DJ (R) C Wells (L) SS Volpe (R) Explanation of switches: 1) Verdugo has been primarily a leadoff guy and at this stage of DJ's career, Verdugo is just a better hitter. I think he should hit leadoff over DJ. 2) I swapped Wells and Volpe for a couple reasons. It breaks up Wells/Verdugo from hitting back to back as lefties. Verdugo is also a high contact guy so he could be a good double leadoff combo with Volpe when the order turns. Lots of good hit-and-run opportunities and small ball stuff.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 7, 2023 12:13:42 GMT -5
I guess Verdugo would be OK at leadoff against right handers but I wouldn't play him at all against lefties, because he can't hit them. I'd use DJ at leadoff against left handers or maybe even Grishman, who despite being left handed was better against lefties last season than against right handers. Plus Grisham has some speed and plays an outstanding CF.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 7, 2023 13:24:19 GMT -5
Soto is on a lot of short lists with baseball royalty. Another is that is he is fifth all-time in adjusted OPS+ through his age 24 season, behind only Ty Cobb, Mike Trout, Mickey Mantle and Jimmie Foxx. Next year he will be the same age Aaron Judge was in Judge's first full season. Another thing to like about him is that he has played at least 151 games in each of the last three seasons, although Boone's rest policy, which has been no help at all in reducing injuries, will make it tougher for him. With Scott Boras as his agent, it's hard to imagine him not testing the market after next year. At least we get to see how the "playing in New York" factor affects him. The Yanks now have nine OFers (ten if you count Stanton) on the 40-man roster. Only five infielders. If Grisham is the fourth OFer, I guess that makes Pereira the fifth, until Jasson returns. I'm not sure what that means for Cabrera, Oscar Gonzalez, Florial -- I suppose that's the starting OF for the Rail Riders. As of now, of course. Seems to me that Grisham is pretty much a less injury-prone version of Harrison Bader. Both great glove men with plenty of range and very similar OBP -- Grisham is .316, Bader .310 -- and OPS+ -- Grisham is 95, Bader is 92. Bader has a much higher BA, .243 to .216. If you're swimming in that end of the pond, Kevin Kiermaier would have been a better option. A bit more offense, more power, and you still get the great defense. Obviously taking Grisham was part of the price for obtaining Soto.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 7, 2023 13:53:19 GMT -5
I hate to lose King, but I know it’s important to give him up so we can score some runs… If they lose King, I'm thinking the Yanks will push even harder for Yamamoto. Cole Rodon Yamamoto Nestor Schmidt Very expensive top three. By getting Soto for what could well be only one season, the Yanks are showing that they intend to go for it all in 2024. All the more reason to get Yamamoto. The Yanks projected payroll after yesterday's moves is about $290 million, just ten million below where the first level of the Cohen Tax kicks in. So they need to blow past that. Going into 2023 we thought we had a great staff, with Cole, Rodon, Severino, Nestor and either German or Montas as the fifth starter. So far Rodon has given little reason to believe he's what the Yanks were buying, although hopefully that will change. And after last year, I think you have to consider Nestor a roll of the dice. It's important to get Yamamoto, but even at that the Yanks will still need starting pitching. They've lost a lot of innings from last year when you add up Sevy, German, King, Vasquez and Brito. Schmidt should be okay at the bottom of the rotation. If they sign Yamamoto, I hope they are still looking at middle of the rotation free agents like Seth Lugo, Marcus Stroman or Michael Wacha. I don't think they'd go in on Snell and I can't imagine Monty wants to come back, and in any event they would cost a lot more. Wacha has quietly had back to back good years -- he's 25-6 with an ERA+ of 127. We could live with that as a number three. Lugo and Stroman are fairly consistent above- league average pitchers. We have to go full-tilt. In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 13:55:49 GMT -5
Glad the move finally got done. Glad we kept Schmidt who turned into a solid starter by the end of the season. If Soto is a 1 year rental because we are stuck with Stanton til 2028 I will be furious. With the exception of Andy Pettitte. I can't recall the Yankees ever losing one of their own free agents to another team. If all goes well this year with Soto, I think they'll pay the price to keep him and at his age, why not? It’s time for Steinbrenner and Co. to realize the economics of baseball if they want to be on top…pay the man…
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 14:01:42 GMT -5
Soto is on a lot of short lists with baseball royalty. Another is that is he is fifth all-time in adjusted OPS+ through his age 24 season, behind only Ty Cobb, Mike Trout, Mickey Mantle and Jimmie Foxx. Next year he will be the same age Aaron Judge was in Judge's first full season. Another thing to like about him is that he has played at least 151 games in each of the last three seasons, although Boone's rest policy, which has been no help at all in reducing injuries, will make it tougher for him. With Scott Boras as his agent, it's hard to imagine him not testing the market after next year. At least we get to see how the "playing in New York" factor affects him. The Yanks now have nine OFers (ten if you count Stanton) on the 40-man roster. Only five infielders. If Grisham is the fourth OFer, I guess that makes Pereira the fifth, until Jasson returns. I'm not sure what that means for Cabrera, Oscar Gonzalez, Florial -- I suppose that's the starting OF for the Rail Riders. As of now, of course. Seems to me that Grisham is pretty much a less injury-prone version of Harrison Bader. Both great glove men with plenty of range and very similar OBP -- Grisham is .316, Bader .310 -- and OPS+ -- Grisham is 95, Bader is 92. Bader has a much higher BA, .243 to .216. If you're swimming in that end of the pond, Kevin Kiermaier would have been a better option. A bit more offense, more power, and you still get the great defense. Obviously taking Grisham was part of the price for obtaining Soto. I wonder if we might intend to flip Grisham? His defense is really terrific, but the bat is a wet noodle…
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Post by inger on Dec 7, 2023 14:06:48 GMT -5
I guess Verdugo would be OK at leadoff against right handers but I wouldn't play him at all against lefties, because he can't hit them. I'd use DJ at leadoff against left handers or maybe even Grishman, who despite being left handed was better against lefties last season than against right handers. Plus Grisham has some speed and plays an outstanding CF. I agree with the platoon at leadoff, even though neither player is an ideal leadoff hitter. I’m hoping for a second year of MLB we can get Volpe into leadoff mode by maybe mid-season. He needs to take more pitches, raise that OBP and get in to running mode. I like Soto batting #2 and Judge #3. Maybe they should flip flop vs. the platoon as well… pleasant problem to have… I doubt we’re going to see Bellinger now, but imagine him batting #4 instead of Torres… <slobbers a bit>…
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