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Post by ypaterson on Jan 9, 2024 18:10:54 GMT -5
Every team in the MLB has 4 starting infielders, backups, and minor league depth ... the question is are they good. I dont consider Cabrera to be good depth ... I think he has proven that he is not an MLB player offensively and he is ok defensively I like what Vivas has done at the lower levels but so far he is a .226 hitter in AAA and he's not considered a very good fielder. Peraza was good in AAA (Lot's of players are) so far he has been a terrible MLB hitter If for example Gleyber is traded and Rizzo doesnt recover ... The Yankees infield would be 1B - DJL 2B/SS - Peraza 2B/SS - Volpe 3B/Util - Vivas Util - Cabrera That could easily be the worst infield in the MLB offensively Playing "ifs" and "maybes" are a 2 way street. If you're going to post worst case scenarios, doing so can even make a good team look like a poor team. For example the Dodgers are favorite to win the World Series. But hey. "if for example" Ohtani isn't the same hitter because of his elbow, "if" Yamamoto can't pitch with a MLB ball during a MLB schedule, Freeman is a year older, and Glasnow has been on the IL. See what I mean?
Maybe Peraza gets traded and not Torres, maybe Torres gets traded and Rizzo does recover. If you want the Yankees to re-sign Torres and or Soto, eventually the Yankees are going to have to trust that some of their prospects are MLB players.
I want a healthy Rizzo. I think he is a class act and I hope he will be effective in 2024. If he isn't, I buy Judge a mitt to play 1st and put Grisham in center. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 9, 2024 18:52:57 GMT -5
Playing "ifs" and "maybes" are a 2 way street. If you're going to post worst case scenarios, doing so can even make a good team look like a poor team. For example the Dodgers are favorite to win the World Series. But hey. "if for example" Ohtani isn't the same hitter because of his elbow, "if" Yamamoto can't pitch with a MLB ball during a MLB schedule, Freeman is a year older, and Glasnow has been on the IL. See what I mean?
Maybe Peraza gets traded and not Torres, maybe Torres gets traded and Rizzo does recover. If you want the Yankees to re-sign Torres and or Soto, eventually the Yankees are going to have to trust that some of their prospects are MLB players.
I want a healthy Rizzo. I think he is a class act and I hope he will be effective in 2024. If he isn't, I buy Judge a mitt to play 1st and put Grisham in center. Because how badly Rizzo's 2023 season ended, it's easy to forget that he was playing like an All Star the first two months of the season. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 9, 2024 18:57:23 GMT -5
I want a healthy Rizzo. I think he is a class act and I hope he will be effective in 2024. If he isn't, I buy Judge a mitt to play 1st and put Grisham in center. I'm impressed that someone knows the difference between a mitt and a glove... |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 9, 2024 19:34:43 GMT -5
Every team in the MLB has 4 starting infielders, backups, and minor league depth ... the question is are they good. I dont consider Cabrera to be good depth ... I think he has proven that he is not an MLB player offensively and he is ok defensively I like what Vivas has done at the lower levels but so far he is a .226 hitter in AAA and he's not considered a very good fielder. Peraza was good in AAA (Lot's of players are) so far he has been a terrible MLB hitter If for example Gleyber is traded and Rizzo doesnt recover ... The Yankees infield would be 1B - DJL 2B/SS - Peraza 2B/SS - Volpe 3B/Util - Vivas Util - Cabrera That could easily be the worst infield in the MLB offensively Playing "ifs" and "maybes" are a 2 way street. If you're going to post worst case scenarios, doing so can even make a good team look like a poor team. For example the Dodgers are favorite to win the World Series. But hey. "if for example" Ohtani isn't the same hitter because of his elbow, "if" Yamamoto can't pitch with a MLB ball during a MLB schedule, Freeman is a year older, and Glasnow has been on the IL. See what I mean? Maybe Peraza gets traded and not Torres, maybe Torres gets traded and Rizzo does recover. If you want the Yankees to re-sign Torres and or Soto, eventually the Yankees are going to have to trust that some of their prospects are MLB players.
Right thats where odds come in ... Who would you bet on playing more games and/or having a better season Ohtani and Freeman DJL and Rizzo ??? It's possible DJ and Rizzo paly 150 games and have Career seasons but ... my money is on the other 2 Is it possible Vivas Peraza or Cabrera become all stars ??? I guess ... but Im not banking on it |
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Post by jiminy on Jan 10, 2024 10:14:23 GMT -5
CBS Sports | Mike Axisa: While the Yankees may not be seriously pursuing Josh Hader at the moment, he remains an option for them if all else fails in the starting pitching market. However, his pursuit of a record-breaking closer contract might leave the two as a bad fit. the Yankees’ recent history in giving out big reliever contract has not been great, and it ended up hamstringing the team from making other moves. While Hader is certainly one of the top closers in the game, a contract north of $20 million in AAV for a reliever might not be conducive for the Yanks. Even so, the reasons that Axisa laid out to justify Hader’s ask are all reasonable.
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Post by jiminy on Jan 10, 2024 10:18:13 GMT -5
Yankees emerging as front-runners to sign Marcus Stroman The Good: Stroman's career ERA+ is 116. For his career, he's been a better than average pitcher. In his nine-year career, Stroman has had an ERA+ under 100 only twice, in 2016 and 2018. In short, that's a nice career, thus far. On a year-to-year basis, and in every season since 2018, he's been an above-average pitcher. There is value in that. In every season since 2018, he had put up a positive WAR as well. The Yankees need someone who they can rely on to give them starts, Stroman does that. In every season beginning in 2019 (he sat out the 2020 season) Stroman has given his team at least 25 starts. Stroman strikes out just about 8 batters for every 9 innings pitched. His lifetime ERA of 3.65 is solid The Not-So-Good For the last few years, Stroman, entering his age-33 season, has regressed. His ERA is trending up: 2021 = 3.03 2022 = 3.50 2023 = 3.95 His innings pitched are going down: 2021 = 179 2022 = 138.2 2023 = 136.2 He didn't have a great second half last year. In the first half, batters hit .205 against him. In the second half, they batted .327! Many people state that pitchers' wins don't matter and that most of the time a win is out of the pitcher's control (in large part). While that has some truth to that, great pitchers tend to win games. Stroman doesn't. In recent years, the following are his wins and losses: 2019: 10-13 2021: 10-13 2022: 6-7 2023: 10-9 www.startspreadingthenews.blog/post/is-marcus-stroman-a-good-option |
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Post by inger on Jan 10, 2024 11:26:38 GMT -5
Yankees emerging as front-runners to sign Marcus Stroman The Good: Stroman's career ERA+ is 116. For his career, he's been a better than average pitcher. In his nine-year career, Stroman has had an ERA+ under 100 only twice, in 2016 and 2018. In short, that's a nice career, thus far. On a year-to-year basis, and in every season since 2018, he's been an above-average pitcher. There is value in that. In every season since 2018, he had put up a positive WAR as well. The Yankees need someone who they can rely on to give them starts, Stroman does that. In every season beginning in 2019 (he sat out the 2020 season) Stroman has given his team at least 25 starts. Stroman strikes out just about 8 batters for every 9 innings pitched. His lifetime ERA of 3.65 is solid The Not-So-Good For the last few years, Stroman, entering his age-33 season, has regressed. His ERA is trending up: 2021 = 3.03 2022 = 3.50 2023 = 3.95 His innings pitched are going down: 2021 = 179 2022 = 138.2 2023 = 136.2 He didn't have a great second half last year. In the first half, batters hit .205 against him. In the second half, they batted .327! Many people state that pitchers' wins don't matter and that most of the time a win is out of the pitcher's control (in large part). While that has some truth to that, great pitchers tend to win games. Stroman doesn't. In recent years, the following are his wins and losses: 2019: 10-13 2021: 10-13 2022: 6-7 2023: 10-9 www.startspreadingthenews.blog/post/is-marcus-stroman-a-good-optionDoes he still do that stupid shoulder shimmy?… |
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 10, 2024 12:34:39 GMT -5
Except for the rental Soto, this off season looks like all the rest! Fill in off the scrap heap! This is not the "old" days when George could buy any player he wanted! Players don't care where the money comes from! Our pitching staff is a mess. Its Spahn and Sain and pray for rain! Except we don't even have Sain!  |
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:22:25 GMT -5
Playing "ifs" and "maybes" are a 2 way street. If you're going to post worst case scenarios, doing so can even make a good team look like a poor team. For example the Dodgers are favorite to win the World Series. But hey. "if for example" Ohtani isn't the same hitter because of his elbow, "if" Yamamoto can't pitch with a MLB ball during a MLB schedule, Freeman is a year older, and Glasnow has been on the IL. See what I mean?
Maybe Peraza gets traded and not Torres, maybe Torres gets traded and Rizzo does recover. If you want the Yankees to re-sign Torres and or Soto, eventually the Yankees are going to have to trust that some of their prospects are MLB players.
I want a healthy Rizzo. I think he is a class act and I hope he will be effective in 2024. If he isn't, I buy Judge a mitt to play 1st and put Grisham in center. I like Rizzo too, I would like to see him stay with the Yankees just as long as he can still play well. In my opinion, in a perfect world Soto will re-sign with the Yankees and eventually agree to play 1B. That way the much better fielding Judge gets to play RF and there's also room for The Martian and Jones to eventually play LF/RF. |
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:24:46 GMT -5
Playing "ifs" and "maybes" are a 2 way street. If you're going to post worst case scenarios, doing so can even make a good team look like a poor team. For example the Dodgers are favorite to win the World Series. But hey. "if for example" Ohtani isn't the same hitter because of his elbow, "if" Yamamoto can't pitch with a MLB ball during a MLB schedule, Freeman is a year older, and Glasnow has been on the IL. See what I mean? Maybe Peraza gets traded and not Torres, maybe Torres gets traded and Rizzo does recover. If you want the Yankees to re-sign Torres and or Soto, eventually the Yankees are going to have to trust that some of their prospects are MLB players.
Right thats where odds come in ... Who would you bet on playing more games and/or having a better season Ohtani and Freeman DJL and Rizzo ??? It's possible DJ and Rizzo paly 150 games and have Career seasons but ... my money is on the other 2 Is it possible Vivas Peraza or Cabrera become all stars ??? I guess ... but Im not banking on it It's not one group of players vs the other. As I mentioned, posting worst case scenarios, can make a good team look like a poor team. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 10, 2024 13:24:55 GMT -5
Except for the rental Soto, this off season looks like all the rest! Fill in off the scrap heap! This is not the "old" days when George could buy any player he wanted! Players don't care where the money comes from! Our pitching staff is a mess. Its Spahn and Sain and pray for rain! Except we don't even have Sain! Was actually thinking about this same thing this morning. The Soto deal felt like an "all in" move. I think Cash was banking heavily on getting Yamamota and it's not clear to me he had a good plan B. Seems to be balking at the remaining best options because of price which again, doesn't feel like "all in". Maybe he pulls a rabbit out of his hat but I don't think Stroman moves the needle much. |
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:31:12 GMT -5
Except for the rental Soto, this off season looks like all the rest! Fill in off the scrap heap! This is not the "old" days when George could buy any player he wanted! Players don't care where the money comes from! Our pitching staff is a mess. Its Spahn and Sain and pray for rain! Except we don't even have Sain! Except of Soto? Trading for Soto doesn't count? What about Verdugo and Victor Gonzalez? There's also no way of knowing right now if Soto is a rental or not. |
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:33:33 GMT -5
Just mt 2 cents...Stroman is a #3/#4 pitcher.
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:34:55 GMT -5
The Yankees reportedly were going to pay Yamamoto 30 million a year, but paying Hader 20 million a year will hamstring them?  |
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Post by Max on Jan 10, 2024 13:37:11 GMT -5
Except for the rental Soto, this off season looks like all the rest! Fill in off the scrap heap! This is not the "old" days when George could buy any player he wanted! Players don't care where the money comes from! Our pitching staff is a mess. Its Spahn and Sain and pray for rain! Except we don't even have Sain! Was actually thinking about this same thing this morning. The Soto deal felt like an "all in" move. I think Cash was banking heavily on getting Yamamota and it's not clear to me he had a good plan B. Seems to be balking at the remaining best options because of price which again, doesn't feel like "all in". Maybe he pulls a rabbit out of his hat but I don't think Stroman moves the needle much. I thought Rodriguez was a good Plan B option for the Yankees if they didn't sign Yamamoto, but he quickly signed with Arizona. |
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