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Post by chiyankee on Feb 10, 2024 18:40:17 GMT -5
Everything that I have read on the issue indicated a pre-meditated set up. The text messages the girl sent to her friend about getting her claws into Bauers bank account were damning. These were not intelligent con artists. Bauer showed his own idiocy by falling for it. Bauer is talented, but he's not top of the rotation talented, in my opinion. He could be a solid number three, though. His personality is difficult to like, and he has never ingratiated himself to his teammates. I will always pull for someone who was falsely accused and essentially prematurely convicted in the court of public opinion. As annoyingly as he has behaved on and off the field, Bauer did not deserve losing his job, his meager reputation, and being banished from MLB without even a charge filed against him by the district attorney. Granted, I have been in the minority here with this opinion. Definitely didn’t deserve being banished before at least being charged. Maybe a suspension, but I’m sure MLB was more concerned with PR and “image” than due process. Many find him grating, but I always kinda liked him for that. He talked about dramatically increased spin rate when pitchers went to Astros. Don’t know if there was anything to that but it was shortly thereafter that “sticky stuff” was banned. Or MLB knows more about the allegations than the general public. It has to say something that no team has given Bauer a chance despite the need throughout the league for pitching.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 10, 2024 18:49:57 GMT -5
Definitely didn’t deserve being banished before at least being charged. Maybe a suspension, but I’m sure MLB was more concerned with PR and “image” than due process. Many find him grating, but I always kinda liked him for that. He talked about dramatically increased spin rate when pitchers went to Astros. Don’t know if there was anything to that but it was shortly thereafter that “sticky stuff” was banned. Or MLB knows more about the allegations than the general public. It has to say something that no team has given Bauer a chance despite the need throughout the league for pitching. It also says a lot that mlb is still allowing him to come back now even though there are new “ allegations” out there
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 10, 2024 18:56:51 GMT -5
Definitely didn’t deserve being banished before at least being charged. Maybe a suspension, but I’m sure MLB was more concerned with PR and “image” than due process. Many find him grating, but I always kinda liked him for that. He talked about dramatically increased spin rate when pitchers went to Astros. Don’t know if there was anything to that but it was shortly thereafter that “sticky stuff” was banned. Or MLB knows more about the allegations than the general public. It has to say something that no team has given Bauer a chance despite the need throughout the league for pitching. Possible..also possible no team wants to deal with the negative PR fallout.
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Post by inger on Feb 10, 2024 19:26:15 GMT -5
Bauer was always an odd duck, which meant that as a top of the rotation pitcher teams would make exceptions for him. Since hasn’t pitched in a couple years it’s quite unlikely that he’s going to be top of rotation material.
I’d like to see him get a chance somewhere based on the recent history rather than the past view with the accusations. If there are additional accusations they may be Tagalongs that were also hoping to cash in. Until he’s formally charged he should be a candidate to resume his career, but as a team owner I’d want to interview him thoroughly and set public behavior parameters that would represent my organization…
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 10, 2024 20:00:38 GMT -5
Everything that I have read on the issue indicated a pre-meditated set up. The text messages the girl sent to her friend about getting her claws into Bauers bank account were damning. These were not intelligent con artists. Bauer showed his own idiocy by falling for it. Bauer is talented, but he's not top of the rotation talented, in my opinion. He could be a solid number three, though. His personality is difficult to like, and he has never ingratiated himself to his teammates. I will always pull for someone who was falsely accused and essentially prematurely convicted in the court of public opinion. As annoyingly as he has behaved on and off the field, Bauer did not deserve losing his job, his meager reputation, and being banished from MLB without even a charge filed against him by the district attorney. Granted, I have been in the minority here with this opinion. Bauer has other allegations against from several women. Maybe they are all lying or maybe not. I never want to see this guy in a Yankee uniform. I am only aware of the single instance. What are these other allegations? For me, I've encountered too many criminals wearing badges, abuses of power, and mob mentality. Too many innocent men have been exonerated with the advancement of DNA evidence - and that is after trials, appeals, and convictions. As far as I know, Bauer has never faced a legal charge. CHI - I hope you never have to face a felonious lie leveled against you, in which your entire well-being is compromised and your future put on hold. You find out who your real friends are...even family. If it ever happened to you, you may not be so quick in condemnation of others without evidence.
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 10, 2024 20:06:20 GMT -5
Definitely didn’t deserve being banished before at least being charged. Maybe a suspension, but I’m sure MLB was more concerned with PR and “image” than due process. Many find him grating, but I always kinda liked him for that. He talked about dramatically increased spin rate when pitchers went to Astros. Don’t know if there was anything to that but it was shortly thereafter that “sticky stuff” was banned. Or MLB knows more about the allegations than the general public. It has to say something that no team has given Bauer a chance despite the need throughout the league for pitching. Also likely, we may infer that in today's cancel culture, MLB teams would prefer not to deal with any circus-type atmospheres, protests, and social media wars. Especially, since the person at the center has never been a sympathetic personality.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 10, 2024 20:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by jiminy on Feb 11, 2024 10:44:56 GMT -5
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Feb 11, 2024 11:05:26 GMT -5
IMHO, this doesn't meet my definition of a tax. It seems more like a personality clash. I mentioned in one of my posts that I thought deals are probably sometimes made because of relationships. This feels more like that to me.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 11, 2024 11:27:21 GMT -5
Imagine taking less back in a trade because you don't like the other team's owner. What an idiotic way to run your organization.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 11, 2024 11:30:19 GMT -5
Thats not a yankee tax either thats just one ownership hating another owner .
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Feb 11, 2024 12:19:23 GMT -5
Imagine taking less back in a trade because you don't like the other team's owner. What an idiotic way to run your organization. After the strike in 1994, the Expos organization was an absolute dumpster fire. They held a fire sale on their excellent 1994 team and the pissed off fans never came back around. Olympic stadium was a poorly maintained, cavernous dinosaur and a 1997 proposal for a new stadium was rejected by city leadership because they didn't think they could get the support for public funding. That was essentially the nail in the coffin of keeping the Expos in Montreal. Tons of drama from them through 2004 eventually led to the franchise relocation to D.C. That 1994 Expos team was absolutely stacked, but we'll never know how far they would have gone that October. The wheels came flying off after that.
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 11, 2024 12:48:45 GMT -5
Imagine taking less back in a trade because you don't like the other team's owner. What an idiotic way to run your organization. After the strike in 1994, the Expos organization was an absolute dumpster fire. They held a fire sale on their excellent 1994 team and the pissed off fans never came back around. Olympic stadium was a poorly maintained, cavernous dinosaur and a 1997 proposal for a new stadium was rejected by city leadership because they didn't think they could get the support for public funding. That was essentially the nail in the coffin of keeping the Expos in Montreal. Tons of drama from them through 2004 eventually led to the franchise relocation to D.C. That 1994 Expos team was absolutely stacked, but we'll never know how far they would have gone that October. The wheels came flying off after that. I caught a few games at Olympic Stadium in Montreal. The roof, which was supposed to be retractable, was broken...permanently closed on a beautiful summer day. Artificial turf, the stands felt like the type that are pulled out in HS gyms...felt like I was watching Arena Football.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 11, 2024 13:38:52 GMT -5
I caught a few games at Olympic Stadium in Montreal. The roof, which was supposed to be retractable, was broken...permanently closed on a beautiful summer day. Artificial turf, the stands felt like the type that are pulled out in HS gyms...felt like I was watching Arena Football. I can't recall who said this, but an ex player when asked about Olympic Stadium commented, "It was always a toilet, now it has a seat."
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 11, 2024 13:49:43 GMT -5
I caught a few games at Olympic Stadium in Montreal. The roof, which was supposed to be retractable, was broken...permanently closed on a beautiful summer day. Artificial turf, the stands felt like the type that are pulled out in HS gyms...felt like I was watching Arena Football. I can't recall who said this, but an ex player when asked about Olympic Stadium commented, "It was always a toilet, now it has a seat." Not a fan of indoor baseball as a rule, but I understand the need for it...occasionally. Chase Field here has a "retractable" roof, but it's closed just about any time after mid-April. In fact, apparently there is some concern that "parts" might fall from it while in operation, so it's never moved during a game. What's really odd is that the AC is run full blast, so if you're anywhere near the massive ducts it's freezing. Have to make sure to bring a sweater to the game...even when it's 110 outside.
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