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Post by chiyankee on Feb 2, 2024 23:15:38 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #5 Joe DiMaggioThe Yankee Clipper, one of baseball’s immortals, kicks off the Top 5 Yankees of all-time.
JoeD number 5? That means Jeter is ahead of him. I dunno, that's kind of rough.
Am I the only one that thinks Jeter above DiMaggio is a pretty big screw up? Jeter is my favorite player. But over JoeD? I can't see that at all. Yeah, DiMaggio should be 3rd or 4th, depending where if you put him right ahead of Mantle or after him. I think some people forget how much baseball time players like DiMaggio lost because of World War II.
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 1:09:36 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #5 Joe DiMaggioThe Yankee Clipper, one of baseball’s immortals, kicks off the Top 5 Yankees of all-time.
JoeD number 5? That means Jeter is ahead of him. I dunno, that's kind of rough.
Am I the only one that thinks Jeter above DiMaggio is a pretty big screw up? Jeter is my favorite player. But over JoeD? I can't see that at all. Settle down, settle down. Maybe Jeter isn’t in the top 100… 🤓
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Post by kaybli on Feb 3, 2024 1:46:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks Jeter above DiMaggio is a pretty big screw up? Jeter is my favorite player. But over JoeD? I can't see that at all. Settle down, settle down. Maybe Jeter isn’t in the top 100… 🤓 The big reveal, number 4 is actually.....
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 3, 2024 6:27:38 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks Jeter above DiMaggio is a pretty big screw up? Jeter is my favorite player. But over JoeD? I can't see that at all. Yeah, DiMaggio should be 3rd or 4th, depending where if you put him right ahead of Mantle or after him. I think some people forget how much baseball time players like DiMaggio lost because of World War II. I don't think Jeter should be ahead of Mariano, Yogi, or Bill Dickey either. Whitey and Pettite are about even with him in my mind.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 3, 2024 10:44:32 GMT -5
Yeah, DiMaggio should be 3rd or 4th, depending where if you put him right ahead of Mantle or after him. I think some people forget how much baseball time players like DiMaggio lost because of World War II. I don't think Jeter should be ahead of Mariano, Yogi, or Bill Dickey either. Whitey and Pettite are about even with him in my mind. I wouldn't go that far. In way Jeter has somehow become underrated. He was one of ten best SS's of all time. 3,400+ hits, 1,900+ runs scored with a lifetime .310 batting average and .377 OBP. As great as Ford and Pettitte were, neither would sniff a top ten list of starting pitchers, especially Andy. As great as Mo was he was still just a reliever who pitched 3 or 4 innings a week during the regular season. I'd have Jeter ranked 5th, behind the Big Four, not bad on a list of the greatest players for the greatest franchise in sports history.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 3, 2024 20:41:06 GMT -5
I don't think Jeter should be ahead of Mariano, Yogi, or Bill Dickey either. Whitey and Pettite are about even with him in my mind. I wouldn't go that far. In way Jeter has somehow become underrated. He was one of ten best SS's of all time. 3,400+ hits, 1,900+ runs scored with a lifetime .310 batting average and .377 OBP. As great as Ford and Pettitte were, neither would sniff a top ten list of starting pitchers, especially Andy. As great as Mo was he was still just a reliever who pitched 3 or 4 innings a week during the regular season. I'd have Jeter ranked 5th, behind the Big Four, not bad on a list of the greatest players for the greatest franchise in sports history. Well these lists are very subjective. I'll stick with what I wrote, but certainly respect your opinion.
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Post by kaybli on Feb 3, 2024 23:10:08 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #4 Derek JeterThe icon of the late 1990s dynasty and Core Four Captain lands fourth on our list of the franchise’s all-time greats.
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 0:30:03 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #4 Derek JeterThe icon of the late 1990s dynasty and Core Four Captain lands fourth on our list of the franchise’s all-time greats.
Ah-HA. # 4 because of his intangibles. Try to disprove that. DiMaggio had the personality of a grapefruit…
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 0:31:49 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #4 Derek JeterThe icon of the late 1990s dynasty and Core Four Captain lands fourth on our list of the franchise’s all-time greats.
Ah-HA. # 4 because of his intangibles. Try to disprove that. DiMaggio had the personality of a grapefruit…
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Post by vtfan on Feb 4, 2024 5:39:46 GMT -5
Derek's hardly Mr. Congenial. And Joe D. didn't have the killer foible that Ruth and the Mick unfortunately had. In any case, no way DJ should be ahead of Joe D on this fictional and silly list, although of the "modern" Yankees, he's #1 in my book.
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Post by vtfan on Feb 4, 2024 6:32:56 GMT -5
I should add the following in order better to explain my dislike of some of these rankings (e.g., the Gardner one esp.) and just disagreement with the last one (Jeter over DiMaggio). (I don't much like O'Neill b/c of his publicly known extracurricular or non-baseball preference, but still would rank him where Pinstripe's do as a Yankee player.)
My explanation would take off from a Marshall McCluhan joke ("The medium is the message" guy) that he liked to tell: "A lady is walking pushing a baby carriage in which is her new child, a baby girl. Down the walk, approaching, is an acquaintance she has not seen in some time. They greet each other and the friend immediately says, 'You have a new baby!' And looking in the carriage says, 'My she’s beautiful!' 'O that’s nothing,' the mother says, 'You should see the pictures we have of her.'” Translation for my purposes here: We grew up in the "TV" generation; the Yankee players we knew about and liked came filtered mostly first hand within that medium. DiMaggio in his great years missed that. Jeter got famous within it, and because we witnessed him through that medium--the same with Mantle--we naturally tend to want to have "been there," that is, witnessed a great one like Jeter, which allows one to jump the gate and rate him ahead of the likes of a Joe D. And how else in anyone's name does someone like Gardner get ranked at all, and then near the middle of the 100 best Yankees, when someone like Gene Woodling, who was an instrumental LF and hitter for the Yankees (whom Stengel platooned w/ Hank Bauer often) did't get ranked at all, although he played on five WS winning Yankee teams in the 50's! I don't buy it, no matter than in his case he came in a trade with Cleveland at time. I'd term such a Gardner ranking and a Woodling non-ranking examples of Electronic Age Myopia.
But hey, as I noted, mine is just one person's opinion, and in Baseball Land, think of how many of those exist to throw doubt onto anyone's preferred choice ballplayers.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 4, 2024 11:48:54 GMT -5
I should add the following in order better to explain my dislike of some of these rankings (e.g., the Gardner one esp.) and just disagreement with the last one (Jeter over DiMaggio). (I don't much like O'Neill b/c of his publicly known extracurricular or non-baseball preference, but still would rank him where Pinstripe's do as a Yankee player.)
This is still a great list because of the detailed writeups on the players. There's some interesting stuff in these articles.
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 12:34:11 GMT -5
I should add the following in order better to explain my dislike of some of these rankings (e.g., the Gardner one esp.) and just disagreement with the last one (Jeter over DiMaggio). (I don't much like O'Neill b/c of his publicly known extracurricular or non-baseball preference, but still would rank him where Pinstripe's do as a Yankee player.)
This is still a great list because of the detailed writeups on the players. There's some interesting stuff in these articles. That’s so true. And we all know what we all sit on that resembles opinions in that everyone has one. I will say the Yankee’s franchise has so many great players that it’s hard to order them, and the team has so many fans that whoever among us that would have the guts to create such a list had better be ready for criticism…
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 4, 2024 12:56:49 GMT -5
This is still a great list because of the detailed writeups on the players. There's some interesting stuff in these articles. That’s so true. And we all know what we all sit on that resembles opinions in that everyone has one. I will say the Yankee’s franchise has so many great players that it’s hard to order them, and the team has so many fans that whoever among us that would have the guts to create such a list had better be ready for criticism… Well said. While I have already written that I think Jeter should be several players lower (closer to 10), I respect the articles writers' opinions.
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Post by kaybli on Feb 4, 2024 18:57:37 GMT -5
Pinstripe Alley Top 100 Yankees: #3 Lou GehrigHe means way more beyond baseball, but Lou Gehrig was also a heck of a baseball player.
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