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Post by johnnyace21 on Jan 14, 2024 15:28:18 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
Got into a debate with a friend of mine regarding Jeter's defense. He was never a great defender at SS, but, by his standards, he's had better defensive years during certain periods in his career than other periods. I believe his best defensive years at SS came during 1996-2000 just based on the fact that his age, athleticism, range, first step, and arm were at their peak around those years as those are key factors for a SS to be viable defensively. However, my friend believes he was a better defender post-2000 given he became a smarter defender and got more experience although his physical traits were on the decline.
Metrics wise, Jeter was one of the worst defenders from post-2004. Eye test included. I don't see how he was a better defender after 2000 as opposed to 1996-2000.
Interested in what you guys believe.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Jan 14, 2024 15:33:02 GMT -5
I agree Jeter was far from the greatest shortstop, but he had a knack for making a big play at a key moment.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2024 15:48:55 GMT -5
One thing about Jeter, he rarely made an error on a routine play, his very reliable. No lack of concentration mistakes from him. Also, he was one of the best SS's in the game in going back on those bloopers into shallow left-center and making the play.
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 15:57:58 GMT -5
Also, he was one of the best SS's in the game in going back on those bloopers into shallow left-center and making the play. Something which Gleyber does as well to RF... |
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Post by grandforks on Jan 14, 2024 16:08:32 GMT -5
One thing about Jeter, he rarely made an error on a routine play, his very reliable. No lack of concentration mistakes from him. Also, he was one of the best SS's in the game in going back on those bloopers into shallow left-center and making the play. Jeter and Mattingly were both excellent at going back on pop ups. |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 16:12:16 GMT -5
One thing about Jeter, he rarely made an error on a routine play, his very reliable. No lack of concentration mistakes from him. Also, he was one of the best SS's in the game in going back on those bloopers into shallow left-center and making the play.
That's what I remember most about Jeter's fielding. He made that play look easy.
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 16:18:25 GMT -5
One thing about Jeter, he rarely made an error on a routine play, his very reliable. No lack of concentration mistakes from him. Also, he was one of the best SS's in the game in going back on those bloopers into shallow left-center and making the play.
That's what I remember most about Jeter's fielding. He made that play look easy.
Gleyber sometimes makes it look too easy... |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 16:25:54 GMT -5
That's what I remember most about Jeter's fielding. He made that play look easy.
Gleyber sometimes makes it look too easy...
Yep, that play can't be easy knowing a big guy like Judge is chasing that same pop up.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2024 16:31:54 GMT -5
That's what I remember most about Jeter's fielding. He made that play look easy.
Gleyber sometimes makes it look too easy... If he only had Jeter's focus and attention to detail. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 16:33:57 GMT -5
Gleyber sometimes makes it look too easy...
Yep, that play can't be easy knowing a big guy like Judge is chasing that same pop up.
That's a much harder play than some may think. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 14, 2024 18:39:04 GMT -5
Gleyber sometimes makes it look too easy... If he only had Jeter's focus and attention to detail.
Casey Stengel had a saying, "I like players who drive in runs with their bats, not their gloves."
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 18:57:08 GMT -5
If he only had Jeter's focus and attention to detail.
Casey Stengel had a saying, "I like players who drive in runs with their bats, not their gloves."
ClipperRBI a very misleading stat, but which player not named Judge led the Yanks in that category in '23? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 19:08:32 GMT -5
Maybe he has ADT like his former Cubs-Yankees buddy INF Starlin Castro had?
Casey Stengel had a saying, "I like players who drive in runs with their bats, not their gloves."
Clipper RBI a very misleading stat, but which player not named Judge led the Yanks in that category in '23? Torres with 68 . Man the offense was terrible last season |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2024 19:08:36 GMT -5
If he only had Jeter's focus and attention to detail.
Casey Stengel had a saying, "I like players who drive in runs with their bats, not their gloves."
ClipperCould be. He's just so frustrating because how talented he is. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 19:10:04 GMT -5
RBI a very misleading stat, but which player not named Judge led the Yanks in that category in '23? Torres with 68 . Man the offense was terrible last season Yeah...#6 in MLB with 68. Still...a misleading, almost irrelevant stat. |
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