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Post by kaybli on Mar 17, 2024 15:39:27 GMT -5
Remembering that trade gets my right back to therapy !!!!!! Speaking of therapy, who can forget Igawa, and Pavano?
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 17, 2024 15:57:47 GMT -5
I was the resident critic of our GM on the YES board but I gave him credit for finding guys on the value rack. I am hoping that Weaver fills that role...even though the very name sends chills down my spine. I have to believe that Blake sees something that we don't and he knows more than we do. I have to believe...I have to believe...I have to believe..... "I want to believe." Cue X Files music. We have to hope that Luke Weaver is not Jeff Weaver. And yet, Jeff Weaver was a good enough pitcher to be in the rotation when the Cards won the title in 2006. In fact, he was the #2 starter on that postseason staff, behind only Chris Carpenter.
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 16:09:21 GMT -5
"I want to believe." Cue X Files music. We have to hope that Luke Weaver is not Jeff Weaver. And yet, Jeff Weaver was a good enough pitcher to be in the rotation when the Cards won the title in 2006. In fact, he was the #2 starter on that postseason staff, behind only Chris Carpenter. He had Yankee-itis, a subset of New York media-itis that makes it impossible to pitch well in a Yankee uniform…
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Post by ypaterson on Mar 17, 2024 16:21:22 GMT -5
"I want to believe." Cue X Files music. We have to hope that Luke Weaver is not Jeff Weaver. And yet, Jeff Weaver was a good enough pitcher to be in the rotation when the Cards won the title in 2006. In fact, he was the #2 starter on that postseason staff, behind only Chris Carpenter. Another Dave Duncan miracle.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 17, 2024 16:23:40 GMT -5
And yet, Jeff Weaver was a good enough pitcher to be in the rotation when the Cards won the title in 2006. In fact, he was the #2 starter on that postseason staff, behind only Chris Carpenter. He had Yankee-itis, a subset of New York media-itis that makes it impossible to pitch well in a Yankee uniform… Yep, just like Sonny Gray, Kenny Rogers, Carl Pavano, and Javier Vasquez. You and I are both old enough to remember the ur-example: Ed Whitson.
Carlos Rodon might be another one of these. I hope not, but last year wasn't promising.
The good news is that Yanks aren't relying on Luke nearly as much as they relied on Jeff. If Blake can't fix Luke, he's still valuable as a slag-arm while the Yanks try to develop Warren, Gil and Hampton.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 17, 2024 16:27:45 GMT -5
And yet, Jeff Weaver was a good enough pitcher to be in the rotation when the Cards won the title in 2006. In fact, he was the #2 starter on that postseason staff, behind only Chris Carpenter. Another Dave Duncan miracle. Didn't last long. The coach turned back into a pumpkin at midnight, and Weaver had a 5.43 ERA over 270 innings in 2007, 2009 and 2010. But it lasted long enough for him to be a key piece of the puzzle in a title run.
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 16:57:46 GMT -5
Another Dave Duncan miracle. Didn't last long. The coach turned back into a pumpkin at midnight, and Weaver had a 5.43 ERA over 270 innings in 2007, 2009 and 2010. But it lasted long enough for him to be a key piece of the puzzle in a title run. Seems most coaching fixes of old nags are only temporary. No body beats Father Time. Even the guys that stretch the limits, Like Ryan. Moyer, Niekro…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 17, 2024 18:37:57 GMT -5
Another Dave Duncan miracle. Didn't last long. The coach turned back into a pumpkin at midnight, and Weaver had a 5.43 ERA over 270 innings in 2007, 2009 and 2010. But it lasted long enough for him to be a key piece of the puzzle in a title run. Jeff Weaver was maddening. He had tremendous stuff -- at times he could make the ball move like in the film "It Happens Every Spring." But he could never harness it for long. A true blue headcase. I remember being at Yankee Stadium for his debut in pinstripes in 2002 against Toronto. It was typical Weaver. He pitched five innings where he was unhittable and two innings like batting practice. Brother Jered on the other hand had a very nice career -- three times in the top five for Cy Young voting.
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 18:44:08 GMT -5
Didn't last long. The coach turned back into a pumpkin at midnight, and Weaver had a 5.43 ERA over 270 innings in 2007, 2009 and 2010. But it lasted long enough for him to be a key piece of the puzzle in a title run. Jeff Weaver was maddening. He had tremendous stuff -- at times he could make the ball move like in the film "It Happens Every Spring." But he could never harness it for long. A true blue headcase. I remember being at Yankee Stadium for his debut in pinstripes in 2002 against Toronto. It was typical Weaver. He pitched five innings where he was unhittable and two innings like batting practice. Brother Jered on the other hand had a very nice career -- three times in the top five for Cy Young voting. Dream Weavers…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 17, 2024 19:23:39 GMT -5
Jeff Weaver was maddening. He had tremendous stuff -- at times he could make the ball move like in the film "It Happens Every Spring." But he could never harness it for long. A true blue headcase. I remember being at Yankee Stadium for his debut in pinstripes in 2002 against Toronto. It was typical Weaver. He pitched five innings where he was unhittable and two innings like batting practice. Brother Jered on the other hand had a very nice career -- three times in the top five for Cy Young voting. Dream Weavers… Charlie Weaver. Was he their grandfather?
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 20:27:27 GMT -5
Charlie Weaver. Was he their grandfather? Were they from Mt. Airy?…
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