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Post by utahyank on Jul 19, 2018 10:05:20 GMT -5
I know quite a bit, inger...and hoping that this is not boring, I will write a bit...I do not have record of my paternal ancestor arriving in England as an invader from Scandanavia...it was probably about 1300 AD as there was a wave of Viking invasions about then.....there, he received the English surname that I carry today, and it was given based upon his means of labor...a modest one that indicates he was a hand laborer....they were Catholic, as was the rest of England....when Henry VIII broke away from the Catholic church about 1535, Catholics were persecuted, and forced to renounce the Pope and swear allegiance to Henry....those who would not do that had an option if they could manage it...Austria, France and Spain sent ships that would sit off an English harbor, such as Plymouth, and take refugees to one of those countries...my family was taken to Austria....thanks to the records of the Catholic church in Austria, I have picked up the thread, and my ancestor Johan was 17 when he was conscripted into the Austrian army and served near the end of the 30 years war....the result of that war was that Austria won land eastward to Hungary, encompassing Czechoslovakia, and being the Austro-Hungarian Empire.....desiring to populate that region with German-speaking Austrians, the government gave land there to the veterans of the War...…….Johan received some land near the village of Obergrub, about 70 miles east of Prague....there he raised his family, mainly by cutting wood and selling it to the gentry in Prague....across the river eastward there was a mill which cut wood, ground grain, and ground animal bones for fertilizer...in 1675 there was a marriage between Johan's grandson and the 15 year old only child of the mill owner, and thus my family acquired some worldly means....I have the record from the village Catholic church that details the family births and deaths in that village, which has been renamed Vaclovov after WWII.....Hermann Jilg, from that village immigrated to America about 1880....going as far west as north-east Nebraska, where he found land...after some years he returned for his family...my father was among those who listened to Jilg when he returned and Father determined to immigrate as well...he came as a 17 yr old in 1893....processed through Ellis Island, and settled in Nebraska......there he met my mother, who was the daughter, born in America, of parents born in Sweden....they were farmers/ranchers in that area and are reposed in a cemetery where my first wife is buried, and where Dee and I also have our monuments....there is a certain satisfaction to knowing your history....you may be surprised at what genealogical aids are available these days....good luck if you decide to research yours.... There is a joke in here about Utah's dad first immigrating to America in 1675 and Utah being born a few days later [img style="max-width:100%;" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/fcnNQOhDRpAUbgaHxUdZ.gif" alt="  " class="smile"]  haha...…….some mornings I feel about that old....I visited the village in the Czech Republic, along with Dee, after the Iron Curtain came down....and saw the remains of the old mill, and the foundations for the two houses that were there for the family.....Father made his way to Bremen, caught a steamer that had been built in Scotland in 1885, and sailed to New York.....I asked why he decided that, and he said that there was not much opportunity there, because of a shortage of land, so he took what inheritance he could obtain from the family and left....my good fortune... |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 10:29:37 GMT -5
Very cool lineage, utah! Interesting read! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by sierchio on Jul 19, 2018 11:25:23 GMT -5
Awesome story Utah... that's bad ass you know all that
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jul 19, 2018 12:30:54 GMT -5
There is a joke in here about Utah's dad first immigrating to America in 1675 and Utah being born a few days later [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/fcnNQOhDRpAUbgaHxUdZ.gif" alt=" " class="smile" style="max-width:100%;"] haha...…….some mornings I feel about that old....I visited the village in the Czech Republic, along with Dee, after the Iron Curtain came down....and saw the remains of the old mill, and the foundations for the two houses that were there for the family.....Father made his way to Bremen, caught a steamer that had been built in Scotland in 1885, and sailed to New York.....I asked why he decided that, and he said that there was not much opportunity there, because of a shortage of land, so he took what inheritance he could obtain from the family and left....my good fortune... In all seriousness, really cool story Utah...thanks for sharing! Knowing that kind of history, especially when its first hand and your own family line, really gives such great perspective for how incredible we have it today. |
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Post by inger on Jul 19, 2018 14:30:45 GMT -5
Utah, do you know what year your father immigrate to America? Where he landed? Did he also move west into Utah, or did you migrate away from the family area? Just curious. I know so little of my heritage that I get somewhat enraptured thinking about the heritage that others have... I know quite a bit, inger...and hoping that this is not boring, I will write a bit...I do not have record of my paternal ancestor arriving in England as an invader from Scandanavia...it was probably about 1300 AD as there was a wave of Viking invasions about then.....there, he received the English surname that I carry today, and it was given based upon his means of labor...a modest one that indicates he was a hand laborer....they were Catholic, as were the rest of England....when Henry VIII broke away from the Catholic church about 1535, Catholics were persecuted, and forced to renounce the Pope and swear allegiance to Henry....those who would not do that had an option if they could manage it...Austria, France and Spain sent ships that would sit off an English harbor, such as Plymouth, and take refugees to one of those countries...my family was taken to Austria....thanks to the records of the Catholic church in Austria, I have picked up the thread, and my ancestor Johan was 17 when he was conscripted into the Austrian army and served near the end of the 30 years war....the result of that war was that Austria won land eastward to Hungary, encompassing Czechoslovakia, and being the Austro-Hungarian Empire.....desiring to populate that region with German-speaking Austrians, the government gave land there to the veterans of the War...…….Johan received some land near the village of Obergrub, about 70 miles east of Prague....there he raised his family, mainly by cutting wood and selling it to the gentry in Prague....across the river eastward there was a mill which cut wood, ground grain, and ground animal bones for fertilizer...in 1675 there was a marriage between Johan's grandson and the 15 year old only child of the mill owner, and thus my family acquired some worldly means....I have the record from the village Catholic church that details the family births and deaths in that village, which has been renamed Vaclovov after WWII.....Hermann Jilg, from that village immigrated to America about 1880....going as far west as north-east Nebraska, where he found land...after some years he returned for his family...my father was among those who listened to Jilg when he returned and Father determined to immigrate as well...he came as a 17 yr old in 1893....processed through Ellis Island, and settled in Nebraska......there he met my mother, who was the daughter, born in America, of parents born in Sweden....my parents were farmers/ranchers in that area and are reposed in a cemetery where my first wife is buried, and where Dee and I also have our monuments....there is a certain satisfaction to knowing your history....you may be surprised at what genealogical aids are available these days....good luck if you decide to research yours.... Not at all boring...I was just speaking to a gentleman today about how wonderful it is for him to be heading out to pick up and spend time with his grandchildren. I do have 3 grandchildren through Ruthie, though none of my own, but never knew any of my grandparents. I know only that my mother was French-Canadian by birth, but I don't even know if she ever lived in Canada in her lifetime, and that my father was born in New Hampshire and met my mother in New Jersey from which the made the long migration (; to Maryland. My family was not well-traveled in my youth. The longest journey I can recall was from Maryland to north Jersey to visit my mother's sister...the only other family outside of our household that I had ever met up to that time (and precious few since)... I only ever met one cousin, and I got to shake hands briefly with two of my father's brothers when my father passed away... So, I'm amazed at all the extended families with dozens of cousins and uncles and aunts...Grandparents with 20 grandchildren...And to think of even a hint at where my surname came from? Not a clue... Thank you for sharing... |
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