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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 14, 2024 17:00:07 GMT -5
If they keep Soto then a guy like Wade Jr will make more sense because you will only need to pay him about 5 million. Maybe then they could let Judge play a little 1b (against LHP) and get someone like Grichuk to hit LHP as an OF. I would love to be proved wrong but I don't think we will see another major $$ signing if Soto comes back. Not unless someone else gets traded first (like say Stroman). Yep, Walker or Wade makes more sense if the Yankees re-sign Soto. That is if the Yankees have no plaans of moving Judge to 1B, which my guess is that they don't. If the Yankees don't re-sign Soto I would like for them to use the money they were willing to pay him to sign both Santander and Burnes. Yankees would get an Ace and replace some of the offense they lost because Soto signed with another team. At the same time the Yankees would take 2 key players off the Orioles roster. If it means that the Yankees have to start Rice and or Rumfield at 1B because of Luxury Tax reasons I think it would be worth it.
Just speculating...
Starting Rotation Cole Rodon Burnes Gil Cortes or Schmidt
Starting Lineup
Durbin 2B Judge LF Santander RF Stanton DH Wells C Dominguez CF Jazz 3B Volpe SS Rice/Rumfield 1B
In terms of the lineup, I think you're taking some big time leaps of faith here. Durbin may end up a good player but for the Yankees coming off a WS appearance it's really hard for me to pencil him into the leadoff spot with with no viable fall back plan. Ben Rice had a negative WAR in his big league time last year and Rumfield has some encouraging signs but isn't a really highly regarded prospect at the same time. Dominguez is a top prospect but he doesn't profile well defensively. Wells batted cleanup for a lot of last year but he was terrible to both start and end the year, which makes it hard for me to reply on him batting in such a prominent spot. Your big acquisition, Santander, has a career OBP of barely over .300 (.307 to be exact). And even in his career best season last year it was only .308. That's not very good. Stanton batted like a hero in the playoffs but he hasn't been an overly reliable regular season player. That was all hitting, even moving onto defense... Santander is probably just as bad as Soto in RF. Dominguez is probably as bad or worse as Judge in CF. Judge is a worse LF than Verdugo. Rice is still learning 1B and not really sure about Rumfield. Durbin profiles better than Torres at 2B though. Overall though, it's hard to call that much of an improved defensive team. You need a lot to go right in that lineup for us not to be one of the worst offenses in the league, IMO, and the defense is still pretty bad. I just can't see them penciling in 3 rookies as everyday players. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 14, 2024 17:18:58 GMT -5
Each year as the FA period starts I'm remined as to how many FAs have some warts and how expensive the better ones are. I think if you let Wade Jr platoon at 1b you can hide his warts well enough. One thing he's not is expensive, unless the Giants have crazy trade demands for him. The Giants have a first baseman at AAA who is their top prospect named Bryce Eldridge. He's a 6'7" power hitting LHer. He has been flying through their farm system and there has been some discussion that he might be in the bigs next season. That is yhe primary reason they are shopping Wade Jr. |
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Post by ypaterson on Nov 14, 2024 19:28:48 GMT -5
with all this talk about OFers, wondering what's the status of trent grisham. i know he's arb eligible. guess that means they can non-tender him.
if they resign soto, assume he stays in RF. that leaves judge and dominguez in LF & CF. judge was not good in CF and dominguez was so bad in LF (admittedy a difficult situation) that he sat in the PS. but his minor league stats in CF are also a red flag. no matter how it shakes out, we're looking to have an even worse fielding OF this season (verdugo was pretty good). based on that, wondering if they offer grisham a contract or do they find an OFer who can field and maybe offer some offense.
Grisham is still on the roster and under control for another season. By Yankee standards he still is not expensive and I don't see a better alternative available. I appreciate your concerns about Dominguez. The reports I've read don't project him as an elite defender anywhere on the field. |
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Post by Max on Nov 15, 2024 0:51:09 GMT -5
Yep, Walker or Wade makes more sense if the Yankees re-sign Soto. That is if the Yankees have no plaans of moving Judge to 1B, which my guess is that they don't. If the Yankees don't re-sign Soto I would like for them to use the money they were willing to pay him to sign both Santander and Burnes. Yankees would get an Ace and replace some of the offense they lost because Soto signed with another team. At the same time the Yankees would take 2 key players off the Orioles roster. If it means that the Yankees have to start Rice and or Rumfield at 1B because of Luxury Tax reasons I think it would be worth it.
Just speculating...
Starting Rotation Cole Rodon Burnes Gil Cortes or Schmidt
Starting Lineup
Durbin 2B Judge LF Santander RF Stanton DH Wells C Dominguez CF Jazz 3B Volpe SS Rice/Rumfield 1B
In terms of the lineup, I think you're taking some big time leaps of faith here. Durbin may end up a good player but for the Yankees coming off a WS appearance it's really hard for me to pencil him into the leadoff spot with with no viable fall back plan. Ben Rice had a negative WAR in his big league time last year and Rumfield has some encouraging signs but isn't a really highly regarded prospect at the same time. Dominguez is a top prospect but he doesn't profile well defensively. Wells batted cleanup for a lot of last year but he was terrible to both start and end the year, which makes it hard for me to reply on him batting in such a prominent spot. Your big acquisition, Santander, has a career OBP of barely over .300 (.307 to be exact). And even in his career best season last year it was only .308. That's not very good. Stanton batted like a hero in the playoffs but he hasn't been an overly reliable regular season player. That was all hitting, even moving onto defense... Santander is probably just as bad as Soto in RF. Dominguez is probably as bad or worse as Judge in CF. Judge is a worse LF than Verdugo. Rice is still learning 1B and not really sure about Rumfield. Durbin profiles better than Torres at 2B though. Overall though, it's hard to call that much of an improved defensive team. You need a lot to go right in that lineup for us not to be one of the worst offenses in the league, IMO, and the defense is still pretty bad. I just can't see them penciling in 3 rookies as everyday players. Teams in general need a lot of things to go right. Unless the Yankees luck out and can trade him, DJ is the backup for Durbin either at 2B or 3B. So far Stanton is also on the Yankees so he's going to play. Not enough at bats to mention Rice's WAR stat. Judge also hasn't played enough LF to say for sure if he's going to worse than Verdugo. Maybe Judge doesn't have to be as good as Verdugo, maybe he just needs to be a good enough LFer.
So far, Dominguez is also on the Yankees. Looks like the Yankees are going to give him a chance to play. The Yankees would have 3 rookies in their line up. The Yankees usually use the option to upgrade if things don't work out. Durbin would be the only rookie that didn't spend some time on a MLB roster. Besides, the Yankees have enough players with MLB experience to balance that out. 3 rookies in a lineup is a trade off that allows the Yankees to improve their rotation by adding an Ace. Plus, a pretty good hitter. Santander and Dominguez would give the Yankees a match up advantage because they would have 2 switch hitters in their lineup.
I'm not sure, so I'm not going to accuse, I'm going to ask...Is "your big acquisition" comment sarcasm? If it is, please spare me that kind of BS if you're going to reply to one of my posts. I never called Santender that. While you mentioned Santander's OBP, you didn't mention his OPS, and that he scored 91 runs, he also hit 44 HRs last season with 102 RBIs. He just won a Silver Slugger Award, and the only switch hitters to hit more HRs in a season than Santander are Mantle, Chipper Jones, and Berkman.
Wells' potential lefty power bat is going to be somewhere in the middle of the Yankees lineup. The Yankees nor any other MLB team is going to have players at every position that are both above average hitters and fielders. I didn't call that would be Yankee team a much improved defensive team, but I can't say it was worse than last season's Yankee team. The pitching rotation listed could be one of the best in MLB. I like the Yankees chances against any team in a short series with both Cole and Burnes pitching.
I'm anxious to read you alternatives to my Yankee roster suggestions. Are you 1 of the posters here that wants the Yankees to sign Walker? Just my opinion, but he's not a good fit for the Yankees because he hits right-handed and he's no spring chicken. Yeah, for now he's still a good player, but again, in my opinion, the Yankees signing him isn't a good fit unless they re-sign Soto or have another player in their lineup with the hitting talent equivalent to players like Santander, Adames, etc. Signing Walker might mean the Yankees could sign either Santander or Burnes, but not both.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 15, 2024 10:36:03 GMT -5
In terms of the lineup, I think you're taking some big time leaps of faith here. Durbin may end up a good player but for the Yankees coming off a WS appearance it's really hard for me to pencil him into the leadoff spot with with no viable fall back plan. Ben Rice had a negative WAR in his big league time last year and Rumfield has some encouraging signs but isn't a really highly regarded prospect at the same time. Dominguez is a top prospect but he doesn't profile well defensively. Wells batted cleanup for a lot of last year but he was terrible to both start and end the year, which makes it hard for me to reply on him batting in such a prominent spot. Your big acquisition, Santander, has a career OBP of barely over .300 (.307 to be exact). And even in his career best season last year it was only .308. That's not very good. Stanton batted like a hero in the playoffs but he hasn't been an overly reliable regular season player. That was all hitting, even moving onto defense... Santander is probably just as bad as Soto in RF. Dominguez is probably as bad or worse as Judge in CF. Judge is a worse LF than Verdugo. Rice is still learning 1B and not really sure about Rumfield. Durbin profiles better than Torres at 2B though. Overall though, it's hard to call that much of an improved defensive team. You need a lot to go right in that lineup for us not to be one of the worst offenses in the league, IMO, and the defense is still pretty bad. I just can't see them penciling in 3 rookies as everyday players. Teams in general need a lot of things to go right. Unless the Yankees luck out and can trade him, DJ is the backup for Durbin either at 2B or 3B. So far Stanton is also on the Yankees so he's going to play. Not enough at bats to mention Rice's WAR stat. Judge also hasn't played enough LF to say for sure if he's going to worse than Verdugo. Maybe Judge doesn't have to be as good as Verdugo, maybe he just needs to be a good enough LFer.
So far, Dominguez is also on the Yankees. Looks like the Yankees are going to give him a chance to play. The Yankees would have 3 rookies in their line up. The Yankees usually use the option to upgrade if things don't work out. Durbin would be the only rookie that didn't spend some time on a MLB roster. Besides, the Yankees have enough players with MLB experience to balance that out. 3 rookies in a lineup is a trade off that allows the Yankees to improve their rotation by adding an Ace. Plus, a pretty good hitter. Santander and Dominguez would give the Yankees a match up advantage because they would have 2 switch hitters in their lineup.
I'm not sure, so I'm not going to accuse, I'm going to ask...Is "your big acquisition" comment sarcasm? If it is, please spare me that kind of BS if you're going to reply to one of my posts. I never called Santender that. While you mentioned Santander's OBP, you didn't mention his OPS, and that he scored 91 runs, he also hit 44 HRs last season with 102 RBIs. He just won a Silver Slugger Award, and the only switch hitters to hit more HRs in a season than Santander are Mantle, Chipper Jones, and Berkman.
Wells' potential lefty power bat is going to be somewhere in the middle of the Yankees lineup. The Yankees nor any other MLB team is going to have players at every position that are both above average hitters and fielders. I didn't call that would be Yankee team a much improved defensive team, but I can't say it was worse than last season's Yankee team. The pitching rotation listed could be one of the best in MLB. I like the Yankees chances against any team in a short series with both Cole and Burnes pitching.
I'm anxious to read you alternatives to my Yankee roster suggestions. Are you 1 of the posters here that wants the Yankees to sign Walker? Just my opinion, but he's not a good fit for the Yankees because he hits right-handed and he's no spring chicken. Yeah, for now he's still a good player, but again, in my opinion, the Yankees signing him isn't a good fit unless they re-sign Soto or have another player in their lineup with the hitting talent equivalent to players like Santander, Adames, etc. Signing Walker might mean the Yankees could sign either Santander or Burnes, but not both.
I definitely did not mean any disrespect with the "your big acquisition" comments on Santander. I've suggested him myself early on in the offseason so I see the logic. I really just meant that since this is a Soto-less plan you're relying on him to make up a big chunk of the production in the lineup, beyond the obvious connection of replacing him in RF. I just soured on him the more I looked into him. He's a slow, poor defender in the OF being signed into his 30s which, IMO, means he's on a fast track towards us looking to move him to DH which means we'll need Judge playing the OF deeper into his 30s post-Stanton. And in general, I'm just not a fan of low OBP, home run only hitters. I don't feel they age well. They rely on "mistake balls" that come less frequently in the playoffs (an issue for our power-heavy offenses of past years) and once the bat speed slows down they got nothing else. In general, I'm less concerned about the lefty-righty thing than you are. In fact, I actually think we need another RH middle of the order bat. Wells and Jazz both figure to be in that middle range of the lineup for us and both have pretty serious career splits. Put them too close together and I think you run the risk of teams being able to go to a lefty reliever late and navigate that part of the lineup. I'd really like another RH hitter that you can stick in between them (along with Stanton) to make that a tougher thing for opponents to do. The further apart in the lineup you can have Jazz and Wells bat, the better IMO. Keep in mind, we were pretty bad vs. LHP last year so as much as the idea of lefty sluggers in Yankees stadium is fun to think of, it kind of goes against an area we need to address. I know you have Santander here as a switch hitter replacing lefty Soto, but Soto is one of those freaks who hits everyone so even if Santander is a switch hitter you're still getting worse vs. lefties. I love the idea of Burnes alongside Cole in the rotation but we'd be paying them a ton of money. We're also paying Rodon. And Stroman has a decent sized salary as well. At some point you get what you pay for. If you allocate so much money to the rotation and not give much attention the lineup you're going to have a bad lineup unless you've developed some studs. We have some regulars in Wells and Volpe but I think it's a stretch to call them studs. Dominguez is unproven. Durbin, Rice, Rumfield have some interesting traits but I think it's a leap to pencil them all in for key roles. If they want to allocate the money towards the rotation like you've done here, they have to be aggressive in the trade market, IMO. I'm not a Santander fan but I could live with it I guess. I do prefer Walker though in part because I'm not as righty hitter-adverse as you and I also prefer someone who's an actual positive in the field where they can retain some value. I also like his more well-rounded offense. He is older though, I acknowledge. I don't dislike what you did here choosing to spend like your money on one hitter and going cheap in the lineup. I just think if they do that they need to shop for some more proven guys. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/top-35-trade-candidates-mlb-offseason.htmlLots of 2B/3B/1B/COF on this list. I think there are some good options here to give you something more tangible than the hopes and prayers that guys like Durbin/Rice/Rumfield pan out. I'd rather go to those guys as backup plans than planning to go into the deadline desperate to replace them. And I understand all of these trade candidates could flop too, but at least there's some track record to fall back on. It's one thing to pencil in a top prospect like Dominguez, but going with more fringey guys like Durbin and Rice/Rumfield doesn't sit as well with me. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 15, 2024 11:13:52 GMT -5
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Post by Max on Nov 15, 2024 11:56:54 GMT -5
Teams in general need a lot of things to go right. Unless the Yankees luck out and can trade him, DJ is the backup for Durbin either at 2B or 3B. So far Stanton is also on the Yankees so he's going to play. Not enough at bats to mention Rice's WAR stat. Judge also hasn't played enough LF to say for sure if he's going to worse than Verdugo. Maybe Judge doesn't have to be as good as Verdugo, maybe he just needs to be a good enough LFer.
So far, Dominguez is also on the Yankees. Looks like the Yankees are going to give him a chance to play. The Yankees would have 3 rookies in their line up. The Yankees usually use the option to upgrade if things don't work out. Durbin would be the only rookie that didn't spend some time on a MLB roster. Besides, the Yankees have enough players with MLB experience to balance that out. 3 rookies in a lineup is a trade off that allows the Yankees to improve their rotation by adding an Ace. Plus, a pretty good hitter. Santander and Dominguez would give the Yankees a match up advantage because they would have 2 switch hitters in their lineup.
I'm not sure, so I'm not going to accuse, I'm going to ask...Is "your big acquisition" comment sarcasm? If it is, please spare me that kind of BS if you're going to reply to one of my posts. I never called Santender that. While you mentioned Santander's OBP, you didn't mention his OPS, and that he scored 91 runs, he also hit 44 HRs last season with 102 RBIs. He just won a Silver Slugger Award, and the only switch hitters to hit more HRs in a season than Santander are Mantle, Chipper Jones, and Berkman.
Wells' potential lefty power bat is going to be somewhere in the middle of the Yankees lineup. The Yankees nor any other MLB team is going to have players at every position that are both above average hitters and fielders. I didn't call that would be Yankee team a much improved defensive team, but I can't say it was worse than last season's Yankee team. The pitching rotation listed could be one of the best in MLB. I like the Yankees chances against any team in a short series with both Cole and Burnes pitching.
I'm anxious to read you alternatives to my Yankee roster suggestions. Are you 1 of the posters here that wants the Yankees to sign Walker? Just my opinion, but he's not a good fit for the Yankees because he hits right-handed and he's no spring chicken. Yeah, for now he's still a good player, but again, in my opinion, the Yankees signing him isn't a good fit unless they re-sign Soto or have another player in their lineup with the hitting talent equivalent to players like Santander, Adames, etc. Signing Walker might mean the Yankees could sign either Santander or Burnes, but not both.
I definitely did not mean any disrespect with the "your big acquisition" comments on Santander. I've suggested him myself early on in the offseason so I see the logic. I really just meant that since this is a Soto-less plan you're relying on him to make up a big chunk of the production in the lineup, beyond the obvious connection of replacing him in RF. I just soured on him the more I looked into him. He's a slow, poor defender in the OF being signed into his 30s which, IMO, means he's on a fast track towards us looking to move him to DH which means we'll need Judge playing the OF deeper into his 30s post-Stanton. And in general, I'm just not a fan of low OBP, home run only hitters. I don't feel they age well. They rely on "mistake balls" that come less frequently in the playoffs (an issue for our power-heavy offenses of past years) and once the bat speed slows down they got nothing else. In general, I'm less concerned about the lefty-righty thing than you are. In fact, I actually think we need another RH middle of the order bat. Wells and Jazz both figure to be in that middle range of the lineup for us and both have pretty serious career splits. Put them too close together and I think you run the risk of teams being able to go to a lefty reliever late and navigate that part of the lineup. I'd really like another RH hitter that you can stick in between them (along with Stanton) to make that a tougher thing for opponents to do. The further apart in the lineup you can have Jazz and Wells bat, the better IMO. Keep in mind, we were pretty bad vs. LHP last year so as much as the idea of lefty sluggers in Yankees stadium is fun to think of, it kind of goes against an area we need to address. I know you have Santander here as a switch hitter replacing lefty Soto, but Soto is one of those freaks who hits everyone so even if Santander is a switch hitter you're still getting worse vs. lefties. I love the idea of Burnes alongside Cole in the rotation but we'd be paying them a ton of money. We're also paying Rodon. And Stroman has a decent sized salary as well. At some point you get what you pay for. If you allocate so much money to the rotation and not give much attention the lineup you're going to have a bad lineup unless you've developed some studs. We have some regulars in Wells and Volpe but I think it's a stretch to call them studs. Dominguez is unproven. Durbin, Rice, Rumfield have some interesting traits but I think it's a leap to pencil them all in for key roles. If they want to allocate the money towards the rotation like you've done here, they have to be aggressive in the trade market, IMO. I'm not a Santander fan but I could live with it I guess. I do prefer Walker though in part because I'm not as righty hitter-adverse as you and I also prefer someone who's an actual positive in the field where they can retain some value. I also like his more well-rounded offense. He is older though, I acknowledge. I don't dislike what you did here choosing to spend like your money on one hitter and going cheap in the lineup. I just think if they do that they need to shop for some more proven guys. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/top-35-trade-candidates-mlb-offseason.htmlLots of 2B/3B/1B/COF on this list. I think there are some good options here to give you something more tangible than the hopes and prayers that guys like Durbin/Rice/Rumfield pan out. I'd rather go to those guys as backup plans than planning to go into the deadline desperate to replace them. And I understand all of these trade candidates could flop too, but at least there's some track record to fall back on. It's one thing to pencil in a top prospect like Dominguez, but going with more fringey guys like Durbin and Rice/Rumfield doesn't sit as well with me. Thank you for such a well written classy reply. I'm also a fan of OBP, but the replacements (power bats)for Soto are limited. Even more so that Bellinger opted in, because I think he would have been the best fit.
If a trade makes sense, I think the Yankees are going to try to trade Stroman and Cortes. Of course you're right, some of the players mentioned are unproven. But the Luxury Tax being what it is, I believe that the Yankees are going to have to eventually trust their prospects if they want to avoid the top Luxury Tax tier.
Don't get me wrong I like Walker if he's willing to sign no more than a 3 year contract, but also if the Yankees add more punch to their line up. I heard the Yankees might have interest in Hernandez. But then, my question for the Yankees is... Where would Jasson play? If the Yankees want a righty bat another option might be if they sign Adames and have him play 3B with Jazz moving back to 2B. I know he's a SS, but I believe if a player can play SS he can play anywhere in the infield.
I guess I miss watching the Yankees play, because I had a dream the other night that the Yankees signed Snell. 
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Post by ypaterson on Nov 15, 2024 13:32:36 GMT -5
The nature of free agency is that the buyer is always the most desperate guy in the room. That is why a good scouting operation and farm system is so important. |
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Post by stu on Nov 15, 2024 14:10:22 GMT -5
The predictions for his 2025 are basically the same as what he's done the past 3 seasons where he has been remarkably consistent. 30+ home runs, 100+ RBI, elite defense. He's not going to be asked to play positions that older guys have problems with, like 2b/3b like DJLM was. He's a 1b only. DJLM's body has broken down kind of like Ellsbury's did. Using him as a red flag would mean no team should ever sign a guy over 34 years old. We should have let Judge walk and should be out in the Soto sweepstakes as well because they will both need to be signed in to their late 30s. Look at Carlos Santana instead of DJLM. He's been consistent year-in and year-out at 1b and he's now 39. Does he mean that we should not worry at all and sign guys until they're 40+? The oblique injury isn't ideal, but missing one month in 3 years isn't a huge red flag to me. I don't think they have anything on Walker that shows he may drop off of a cliff other than comparing him to DJLM. He's not DJLM. Use Santana instead and I guess we should give Walker 4-5 years? I don't think either position is really fair. Walker is Walker, not some other player. For a 2-3 year deal I would go for it. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 15, 2024 14:38:39 GMT -5
The predictions for his 2025 are basically the same as what he's done the past 3 seasons where he has been remarkably consistent. 30+ home runs, 100+ RBI, elite defense. He's not going to be asked to play positions that older guys have problems with, like 2b/3b like DJLM was. He's a 1b only. DJLM's body has broken down kind of like Ellsbury's did. Using him as a red flag would mean no team should ever sign a guy over 34 years old. We should have let Judge walk and should be out in the Soto sweepstakes as well because they will both need to be signed in to their late 30s. Look at Carlos Santana instead of DJLM. He's been consistent year-in and year-out at 1b and he's now 39. Does he mean that we should not worry at all and sign guys until they're 40+? The oblique injury isn't ideal, but missing one month in 3 years isn't a huge red flag to me. I don't think they have anything on Walker that shows he may drop off of a cliff other than comparing him to DJLM. He's not DJLM. Use Santana instead and I guess we should give Walker 4-5 years? I don't think either position is really fair. Walker is Walker, not some other player. For a 2-3 year deal I would go for it. For me, the author eluded to him having trouble catching up to the fastball, that combined with him probably getting at least a three year deal is a concern. I guess I've just seen this movie too many times before. |
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Post by yankeemike on Nov 15, 2024 15:54:28 GMT -5
If it were me I’d give the BlueJays a call and offer Dominguez for Vlad Jr. Go bold or go home I always say.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 15, 2024 16:04:14 GMT -5
If it were me I’d give the BlueJays a call and offer Dominguez for Vlad Jr. Go bold or go home I always say. Dominquez would just be a starting block for a player like Vlad. |
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 15, 2024 16:11:39 GMT -5
I definitely did not mean any disrespect with the "your big acquisition" comments on Santander. I've suggested him myself early on in the offseason so I see the logic. I really just meant that since this is a Soto-less plan you're relying on him to make up a big chunk of the production in the lineup, beyond the obvious connection of replacing him in RF. I just soured on him the more I looked into him. He's a slow, poor defender in the OF being signed into his 30s which, IMO, means he's on a fast track towards us looking to move him to DH which means we'll need Judge playing the OF deeper into his 30s post-Stanton. And in general, I'm just not a fan of low OBP, home run only hitters. I don't feel they age well. They rely on "mistake balls" that come less frequently in the playoffs (an issue for our power-heavy offenses of past years) and once the bat speed slows down they got nothing else. In general, I'm less concerned about the lefty-righty thing than you are. In fact, I actually think we need another RH middle of the order bat. Wells and Jazz both figure to be in that middle range of the lineup for us and both have pretty serious career splits. Put them too close together and I think you run the risk of teams being able to go to a lefty reliever late and navigate that part of the lineup. I'd really like another RH hitter that you can stick in between them (along with Stanton) to make that a tougher thing for opponents to do. The further apart in the lineup you can have Jazz and Wells bat, the better IMO. Keep in mind, we were pretty bad vs. LHP last year so as much as the idea of lefty sluggers in Yankees stadium is fun to think of, it kind of goes against an area we need to address. I know you have Santander here as a switch hitter replacing lefty Soto, but Soto is one of those freaks who hits everyone so even if Santander is a switch hitter you're still getting worse vs. lefties. I love the idea of Burnes alongside Cole in the rotation but we'd be paying them a ton of money. We're also paying Rodon. And Stroman has a decent sized salary as well. At some point you get what you pay for. If you allocate so much money to the rotation and not give much attention the lineup you're going to have a bad lineup unless you've developed some studs. We have some regulars in Wells and Volpe but I think it's a stretch to call them studs. Dominguez is unproven. Durbin, Rice, Rumfield have some interesting traits but I think it's a leap to pencil them all in for key roles. If they want to allocate the money towards the rotation like you've done here, they have to be aggressive in the trade market, IMO. I'm not a Santander fan but I could live with it I guess. I do prefer Walker though in part because I'm not as righty hitter-adverse as you and I also prefer someone who's an actual positive in the field where they can retain some value. I also like his more well-rounded offense. He is older though, I acknowledge. I don't dislike what you did here choosing to spend like your money on one hitter and going cheap in the lineup. I just think if they do that they need to shop for some more proven guys. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/top-35-trade-candidates-mlb-offseason.htmlLots of 2B/3B/1B/COF on this list. I think there are some good options here to give you something more tangible than the hopes and prayers that guys like Durbin/Rice/Rumfield pan out. I'd rather go to those guys as backup plans than planning to go into the deadline desperate to replace them. And I understand all of these trade candidates could flop too, but at least there's some track record to fall back on. It's one thing to pencil in a top prospect like Dominguez, but going with more fringey guys like Durbin and Rice/Rumfield doesn't sit as well with me. Thank you for such a well written classy reply. I'm also a fan of OBP, but the replacements (power bats)for Soto are limited. Even more so that Bellinger opted in, because I think he would have been the best fit.
If a trade makes sense, I think the Yankees are going to try to trade Stroman and Cortes. Of course you're right, some of the players mentioned are unproven. But the Luxury Tax being what it is, I believe that the Yankees are going to have to eventually trust their prospects if they want to avoid the top Luxury Tax tier.
Don't get me wrong I like Walker if he's willing to sign no more than a 3 year contract, but also if the Yankees add more punch to their line up. I heard the Yankees might have interest in Hernandez. But then, my question for the Yankees is... Where would Jasson play? If the Yankees want a righty bat another option might be if they sign Adames and have him play 3B with Jazz moving back to 2B. I know he's a SS, but I believe if a player can play SS he can play anywhere in the infield.
I guess I miss watching the Yankees play, because I had a dream the other night that the Yankees signed Snell.
Just some general thoughts on guys you mentioned... I'm with you on Bellinger. I really liked him as a fit here. I had read some offseason speculation that if Bellinger opted out that CHI would have used it as an opportunity to pursue Alonso for more offensive punch. I'll throw it out there as an idea, if CHI still would rather spend Bellinger's money on Alonso, that maybe they'd be open to a trade? Just a random idea, probably not realistic. On Santander, I'll throw it out there that BAL did use him a bit at 1B the past few years and apparently he looked OK there. We're talking 13 total games, so no huge conclusions to be drawn. I hate to keep doing this where we add guys and play them at positions they aren't used to, but I like him a little more if he can be a passable 1B vs. a bad RF that forces us to keep playing Judge in CF where he isn't very good and then deal with Dominguez likely being a negative LF as well. If we did sign Santander, my guess would be that in 3 years when Stanton's deal is up we'd be looking to play Dominguez in the less-challenging RF spot (assuming he's panned out offensively, but the iffy defensive scouting reports translate too) and then have one of Judge/Santander move to 1B with the other slotting in at DH. If they thought he could make the switch to 1B now, I'd be more on board for him. But then again, I'm tired of moving guys around like I said before. You seem very interested in adding a co-ace alongside Cole and can't say I blame you. You mentioned trading Stroman and Cortes. I imagine Cortes has positive value on his projected $8.3M salary. Stroman, I imagine we'd need to attach some prospects if we wanted a team to take the money. Maybe it could all net out there prospect wise where it's not an organizational hit. If you sent both of them out, that's almost $27M saved. You signed Burnes in your plan and took that money out of what was available to spend on offense, but maybe they can open that money back up by sending Stroman/Cortes out to make room instead. You'd still have a 5-man rotation of Cole/Burnes/Rodon/Gil/Schmidt so even though it's two arms out for one guy in, it's still a good 5-man rotation. And now that money can be put back towards a bat. Adames has expressed willingness to move positions, so that could definitely be in play. He's a bit like Hernandez where he's just not my favorite kind of hitter (strikeouts, inconsistent OBP) but mostly I'm just not sure I want to be tied to him for as long a contract as I think he'll sign (I've read 7 or 8 years). If the Yankees got Teoscar he'd be a Soto replacement in RF. Might not be feasible though since reportedly he's looking to sign sooner rather than later after being left hanging on the market last year, which would take him out of play before we know what happens with Soto. I like him better in RF than Santander because his hitting profile is more balanced, I expect he'll sign a shorter deal which means Judge can move off of CF easier in a few years, and defenisvely he actually grades out ok in RF which is his natural spot (LF less so, which is where LAD played him). The only downside is that he hits right handed and we definitely could use at least one of Soto's or Rizzo's replacements to bat from the left side for the balance. So it kind of makes 1B tougher to fill since we'd be wanting to prioritize a lefty there. I'd be very, very surprised if Walker got more than 3 years. The history of RH hitting 1B deals isn't good even for guys younger than him. I'm actually expecting it to come down to a 2 yar deal for a higher AAV vs. 3 years at a lower AAV. I could be wrong, but think 3 years is the absolute limit for him. |
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Post by ypaterson on Nov 15, 2024 16:15:04 GMT -5
The predictions for his 2025 are basically the same as what he's done the past 3 seasons where he has been remarkably consistent. 30+ home runs, 100+ RBI, elite defense. He's not going to be asked to play positions that older guys have problems with, like 2b/3b like DJLM was. He's a 1b only. DJLM's body has broken down kind of like Ellsbury's did. Using him as a red flag would mean no team should ever sign a guy over 34 years old. We should have let Judge walk and should be out in the Soto sweepstakes as well because they will both need to be signed in to their late 30s. Look at Carlos Santana instead of DJLM. He's been consistent year-in and year-out at 1b and he's now 39. Does he mean that we should not worry at all and sign guys until they're 40+? The oblique injury isn't ideal, but missing one month in 3 years isn't a huge red flag to me. I don't think they have anything on Walker that shows he may drop off of a cliff other than comparing him to DJLM. He's not DJLM. Use Santana instead and I guess we should give Walker 4-5 years? I don't think either position is really fair. Walker is Walker, not some other player. For a 2-3 year deal I would go for it. I recall Jose Abreu making all the same points. I understand the concern. |
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Post by inger on Nov 15, 2024 16:18:08 GMT -5
Thank you for such a well written classy reply. I'm also a fan of OBP, but the replacements (power bats)for Soto are limited. Even more so that Bellinger opted in, because I think he would have been the best fit.
If a trade makes sense, I think the Yankees are going to try to trade Stroman and Cortes. Of course you're right, some of the players mentioned are unproven. But the Luxury Tax being what it is, I believe that the Yankees are going to have to eventually trust their prospects if they want to avoid the top Luxury Tax tier.
Don't get me wrong I like Walker if he's willing to sign no more than a 3 year contract, but also if the Yankees add more punch to their line up. I heard the Yankees might have interest in Hernandez. But then, my question for the Yankees is... Where would Jasson play? If the Yankees want a righty bat another option might be if they sign Adames and have him play 3B with Jazz moving back to 2B. I know he's a SS, but I believe if a player can play SS he can play anywhere in the infield.
I guess I miss watching the Yankees play, because I had a dream the other night that the Yankees signed Snell.
Just some general thoughts on guys you mentioned... I'm with you on Bellinger. I really liked him as a fit here. I had read some offseason speculation that if Bellinger opted out that CHI would have used it as an opportunity to pursue Alonso for more offensive punch. I'll throw it out there as an idea, if CHI still would rather spend Bellinger's money on Alonso, that maybe they'd be open to a trade? Just a random idea, probably not realistic. On Santander, I'll throw it out there that BAL did use him a bit at 1B the past few years and apparently he looked OK there. We're talking 13 total games, so no huge conclusions to be drawn. I hate to keep doing this where we add guys and play them at positions they aren't used to, but I like him a little more if he can be a passable 1B vs. a bad RF that forces us to keep playing Judge in CF where he isn't very good and then deal with Dominguez likely being a negative LF as well. If we did sign Santander, my guess would be that in 3 years when Stanton's deal is up we'd be looking to play Dominguez in the less-challenging RF spot (assuming he's panned out offensively, but the iffy defensive scouting reports translate too) and then have one of Judge/Santander move to 1B with the other slotting in at DH. If they thought he could make the switch to 1B now, I'd be more on board for him. But then again, I'm tired of moving guys around like I said before. You seem very interested in adding a co-ace alongside Cole and can't say I blame you. You mentioned trading Stroman and Cortes. I imagine Cortes has positive value on his projected $8.3M salary. Stroman, I imagine we'd need to attach some prospects if we wanted a team to take the money. Maybe it could all net out there prospect wise where it's not an organizational hit. If you sent both of them out, that's almost $27M saved. You signed Burnes in your plan and took that money out of what was available to spend on offense, but maybe they can open that money back up by sending Stroman/Cortes out to make room instead. You'd still have a 5-man rotation of Cole/Burnes/Rodon/Gil/Schmidt so even though it's two arms out for one guy in, it's still a good 5-man rotation. And now that money can be put back towards a bat. Adames has expressed willingness to move positions, so that could definitely be in play. He's a bit like Hernandez where he's just not my favorite kind of hitter (strikeouts, inconsistent OBP) but mostly I'm just not sure I want to be tied to him for as long a contract as I think he'll sign (I've read 7 or 8 years). If the Yankees got Teoscar he'd be a Soto replacement in RF. Might not be feasible though since reportedly he's looking to sign sooner rather than later after being left hanging on the market last year, which would take him out of play before we know what happens with Soto. I like him better in RF than Santander because his hitting profile is more balanced, I expect he'll sign a shorter deal which means Judge can move off of CF easier in a few years, and defenisvely he actually grades out ok in RF which is his natural spot (LF less so, which is where LAD played him). The only downside is that he hits right handed and we definitely could use at least one of Soto's or Rizzo's replacements to bat from the left side for the balance. So it kind of makes 1B tougher to fill since we'd be wanting to prioritize a lefty there. I'd be very, very surprised if Walker got more than 3 years. The history of RH hitting 1B deals isn't good even for guys younger than him. I'm actually expecting it to come down to a 2 yar deal for a higher AAV vs. 3 years at a lower AAV. I could be wrong, but think 3 years is the absolute limit for him. FWIW, Belinger’s CF metrics were similar to Judges last year. He’s still a 1B… |
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